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Title: Many Blacks Worry About Obama's Safety (Barf!)
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URL Source: http://www.usadaily.com/article.cfm?articleID=271244
Published: Feb 22, 2008
Author: DAVID CRARY
Post Date: 2008-02-22 13:45:04 by Pern
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For many black Americans, it's a conversation they find hard to avoid, revisiting old fears in the light of bright new hopes. They watch with wonder as Barack Obama moves ever closer to becoming America's first black president. And they ask themselves, their family, their friends: Is he at risk? Will he be safe? There is, of course, no sure answer. But interviews with blacks across the country, prominent and otherwise, suggest that lingering worries are outweighed by enthusiasm and determination.
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There have been death threats and despite that the Secret Service quit checking people being admitted at a rally yesterday in Dallas. Obama Gets Secret Service Due to Death Threats Police concerned about order to stop weapons screening at Obama rally This story was posted as a thread here yesterday.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I worry about it too. There is allot of nasty racists who's lack of ethical good sense don't make them the least bit trustworthy concerning someone like Obama running for high office. I don't like racism, and I don't even remotely trust racists to obey the law when it conflicts with the nastiness of their irrational hatred.
The vast majority of White and Black people are extremely decent people who deserve to not be bothered with irrational hatreds based on race spawned from maliciousness and senseless hatred. I don't like racists of any creed or color. I don't like people who hate Mexicans based mainly on their darker skin and culture. It was eye opening to be married to a Black women and to see some of the routine crap my kid had to go through growing because of racism. He has given me two fine grand daughters and has an excellent job and has a college education he did so good at grade-wise his pathernal grandmother, a very racist women buried the hatchet and started putting pictures of him in the family albums. I celebrate the holiday of one of my biggest heroes Martin Luther King, and I think it long overdue to see someone make it to the White House without being disqualified for not being a White male. If it comes down to McCain v. Obama, I hope Obama wins and wins big.
You're living in a dream world. What's really cloud cuckoo land is the notion that Ron Paul has a snowball's chance in hell of being selected at a brokered GOP convention. If not McCain, they'll go for Romney, Giuliani, Thompson, or somebody who didn't even run, like Cheney or Jeb Bush. And Obama doesn't have to worry about any hits ordered by the higher-ups. He's the golden boy of the mass media, which means that the elites approve of his candidacy. He may be a lesser evil (from the point of view of most of us on this site) than McCain or Hillary, but he's still one of their own.
Maybe I've lived too long, but I'm hard pressed to find extremely decent people of any ethnicity any more. Neo-tribalism is the order of the day, and it's ugly. If it comes down to McCain v. Obama, I hope Obama wins and wins big. Well, gee, so do I. I despise McCain, and disagree with Obama on everything, except the war. If he means what he says, getting out of Iraq would be worth his Utopian world visions. As for the rest of your post, it would be better directed at someone else. I hold that there is only one 'race': there are many ethnicities, but one race.
Plain enough.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I celebrate the holiday of one of my biggest heroes Martin Luther King, and I think it long overdue to see someone make it to the White House without being disqualified for not being a White male. I have six kids and five stepkids. I tried to raise my six the right way. I took my two oldest (daughters) to a little black church for a King memorial when he was shot. They were pretty small at the time and I asked one recently if she remembered that day and I was surprised at how much she recalled. My oldest boy and his wife are working with the Obama campaign here. One day my two oldest tads were playing pitch and bat in the side yard and I heard through the den window "pitch it in here Skip", I'm Hank Aaron ... I started to wince for an instant but then smiled when I heard his older brother say "You can't be Hank Aaron ... he's right-handed"! I'm proud of my good hearted Father. He was raised to adulthood in TN, but whenever a Black Leagues exhibition game was played in our town "he would say, c'mon son, we're going to see some good baseball today". I saw many of the greats, some of whom were allowed into the big leagues some years later. One of Dad's favorites was Willie Mays. Dad was a baseball fanatic (named me after two Detroit Tigers) and he said the greatest play he ever saw was Willie's catch of Vic Wertz's long drive in the 1954 World Series. If it comes down to McCain v. Obama, I hope Obama wins and wins big. Same here, Mike.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
Utopian trumps Imperial for me too. ;-)
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
Well, Dr Feelgood, you're about to get a Twofer with Obama. Utopianism +imperialism = unvarnished socialism. Please, for the love of the holy Christ, will someone tell me what this man has accomplished in his brief political career?
I think I'll let a Republican IL Senator tell you. thinkonthesethings.wordpr...-dillard-on-barack-obama/ Furthermore: a list of hillary's senate accomplishments Published Dec. 27, 2007 In five years as the most influential Democrat in the Senate, Hillary has managed to get the following laws and resolutions enacted: • Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site • Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month • Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor • Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall • Name courthouse after James L. Watson • Name post office after John A. O'Shea • Designate August 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day • Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day • Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death • Congratulate the Syracuse University Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship. • Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship • Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program • Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda • Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death • Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty. Only five of Clinton's bills are, according to Morris, "substantive": • Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11 • Pay for city projects in response to 9/11 • Assist landmine victims in other countries • Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care • Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the Wilderness Preservation System The experience and accomplishment candidate! Sheesh!
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
Good job with your kids.
Join the Ron Paul Revolution Abraham Lincoln's letter of Aug. 24, 1855 to Joshua F. Speed on the Know Nothings.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
He also says he believes in the Constitution, shutting down Guantanamo, and restoring habeas corpus. I heard him say that on C-SPAN when he was campaigning in NH. Yesterday, he was critical of the Bush administration's illegal eavesdropping. I don't know about utopianism, but it looks as if he will at least restore civil liberties.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Thanks, Jim.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
What had Lincoln accomplished up to 1860? What, for that matter, had FDR accomplished up to 1932?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Karl Marx was an ardent supporter of Lincoln, especially when Abe threw people in jail and threw away the key. Of course we seldom read of such as it is a tad embarrassing, throwing newspaper editors in prison because they dared disagree. Then Abe had the audacity to want a SC Justice thrown in jail. Even the law would not stoop that low and refused, but Lincoln was a great man? Lincoln wore long coattails for a reason.
That's quite an endorsement from a Wide Stancer.
There's the kicker...
Join the Ron Paul Revolution I think the correct way to view the Lincoln and FDR presidencies is in the evil legacy they left behind. In that respect your Obama linkage appears to have legs.
So, you're saying Obama will be as good (or bad) a president as Lincoln and FDR were? If the American people were convinced of that, I suspect McCain would lose the election by something like 20 points.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Are you saying Lincoln was wrong to disapprove of the Know Nothings?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Exactly. Yesterday there was a post floating about that identified the money men behind Obama. I'm guessing his presidential run will cost in the hundreds of millions of dollars. He'll owe folks, and owe them big.
The folks he will owe will not be the usual culprits.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
McCain will lose this election by 20% points when he dares to get on stage with a younger, more appealing candidate. But it is his turn and the Patrician wing of the National party likes formality.
Ari... I reread my post and see nothing per know nothings.
Really???
Time heals all wounds, Mike. Jethro, bless his heart, has referred to me as Dr. Feelgood herein. Well, of course, if you have as many kids as I have without experiencing a good bit of heartache, you're one lucky and blessed son of a gun. One of my twins (the daughter) is a recovering addict, for just one for instance. During her trip through the depths she has tied up with some of the worst white trash imaginable. Life is not a walk through a flower garden ... but all in all I love each of my kids with all my heart, by blood or by marriage, and am proud of each one of them
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
Oh my, Jethro. Try Google-ing Kirk Dillard and "taint" or "scandal" and then come back with a shred. Whatever happened to shame?
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
There's the kicker... (Mark) Penn, (Hillary's campaign mgr) whose Harvard nickname was "Pig-Penn," is one of those deeply shy guys who cover it with coldness. He has the IQ of a Bill Gates and the "EQ" (emotional intelligence) of an eggplant. His awkwardness makes him an especially strange choice to be CEO of Burson-Marsteller, one of the largest public-relations firms in the world, but the company (which represents Blackwater, predatory lenders and a few anti-union companies) obviously values him for his grasp of the "science" of selling tarnished products. Jonathon Alter
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
Kinda like a turd in the punch bowl, old pal? ;-)
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
Penn works for Hillary's campaign for big bucks. As well as the big bucks he earns as CEO of Burson-Marsteller. Meanwhile, the head of Burson-Marsteller's subsidiary BKSH, Charlie Black, works as a top adviser to John McCain for free. Mark Penn's tangled corporate web: Clinton is a client; McCain is a client.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Yes, truthful information is a rare commodity (thank god for the net) and most helpful when decision making is in play.
Indeed. So why don't you provide us this information (or at least a link to it), then, instead of just making a broad reference to it?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
It's been posted here previously, by robin I believe. Do some independent research on the anointed one yourself. I'd hate to see you pull another Kucinich boner.
If you can't be bothered to provide the link, I see no reason why I should bother to find something you claim to find significant, and then do nothing to provide to us.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Large contributors: Obama Lawyers, Bankers Hillary Bankers, EMILY'S LIST, Oil Co.'s, U of California (for crysakes) McCain Bankers, lawyers, Oil, Environmental Co.'s Hill and John have received twice as much from Big Oil as Obama .... perpetual WAR anyone? Obama has a larger portion of small donors than either.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
Yes, and most of it here seems to come from bloggers with strong biases.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
My kids used that line on me when they were young and immature. It worked for about a week, but when I insisted that they research the material in question themselves, their learning curve headed North quickly.
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U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
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#4. To: Pern (#0)
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And another note. If somehow McCain's scandals prove his undoing and somehow Ron Paul finds his way to the GOP convention with half a chance you don't think there's a very good chance he'll be assassinated?
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The vast majority of White and Black people are extremely decent people who deserve to not be bothered with irrational hatreds based on race spawned from maliciousness and senseless hatred.
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And Obama doesn't have to worry about any hits ordered by the higher-ups. He's the golden boy of the mass media, which means that the elites approve of his candidacy.
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#12. To: Old Fud (#8)
his Utopian world visions
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Utopian trumps Imperial for me too. ;-)
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#13)
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Well, Dr Feelgood, you're about to get a Twofer with Obama. Utopianism +imperialism = unvarnished socialism. Please, for the love of the holy Christ, will someone tell me what this man has accomplished in his brief political career?
#15. To: iconoclast (#11)
One day my two oldest tads were playing pitch and bat in the side yard and I heard through the den window "pitch it in here Skip", I'm Hank Aaron ... I started to wince for an instant but then smiled when I heard his older brother say "You can't be Hank Aaron ... he's right-handed"!
Freedom*Peace*Prosperity
#16. To: Ferret Mike (#6)
I am not a Know-Nothing. That is certain. How could I be? How can any one who abhors the oppression of negroes, be in favor of degrading classes of white people? Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we begin by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except negroes." When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and catholics." When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretence of loving liberty-to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocracy.
#17. To: Old Fud (#8)
Well, gee, so do I. I despise McCain, and disagree with Obama on everything, except the war. If he means what he says, getting out of Iraq would be worth his Utopian world visions.
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#19. To: Jethro Tull (#13)
Please, for the love of the holy Christ, will someone tell me what this man has accomplished in his brief political career?
#20. To: aristeides (#16)
where they make no pretence of loving liberty-to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocracy.
#21. To: Iconocast, aristeides, progressives all (#19)
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SO, Kirk Dillard is impressed w/Obama because he is able to "pass ethics, welfare and death-penalty revisions (read, anti death penality)."?
#22. To: Jethro Tull, all (#21)
“If he surrounds himself with good people, I wouldn’t lose any sleep with him as my president.”
Freedom*Peace*Prosperity
#23. To: aristeides (#19)
What had Lincoln accomplished up to 1860? What, for that matter, had FDR accomplished up to 1932?
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He'll owe folks, and owe them big.
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The folks he will owe will not be the usual culprits.
#31. To: Ferret Mike, Jethroe Tull (#6)
He has given me two fine grand daughters and has an excellent job and has a college education he did so good at grade-wise his pathernal grandmother, a very racist women buried the hatchet and started putting pictures of him in the family albums.
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That's quite an endorsement from a Wide Stancer.
#33. To: lodwick (#22)
“If he surrounds himself with good people, I wouldn’t lose any sleep with him as my president.”
#34. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
Yesterday there was a post floating about that identified the money men behind Obama.
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#36. To: iconoclast (#34)
Kinda like a turd in the punch bowl, old pal? ;-)
#37. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
truthful information is a rare commodity
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#40. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
I'm guessing his presidential run will cost in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
#41. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
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Yes, "truthful" information is a rare commodity
#42. To: aristeides (#39)
If you can't be bothered to provide the link, I see no reason why I should bother
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