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Title: Obama, Clinton would consider suspending immigration raids
Source:
The Border Line
URL Source: http://www.statesman.com/blogs/cont ... _clinton_would_consider_s.html
Published: Feb 22, 2008
Author: Eunice Moscoso
Post Date: 2008-02-22 19:41:41 by buckeye
Keywords: Obama, Clinton, Immigration Reform
Views: 481
Comments: 26
During a Democratic presidential debate in Austin, Texas, Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton said they would consider suspending work site immigration raids until Congress passes an immigration overhaul which includes a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. “When we see what’s been happening, with literally babies being left with no one to take care of them, children coming home from school, no responsible adult left, that is not the America that I know,” Clinton said. Other immigration highlights from the debate: Clinton: “We need a path to legalization, to bring the immigrants out of the shadows, give them the conditions that we expect them to meet, paying a fine for coming here illegally, trying to pay back taxes, over time, and learning English. If they had a committed a crime in our country or the country they came from, then they should be deported. But for everyone else, there must be a path to legalization.” Obama: “It is absolutely critical that we tone down the rhetoric when it comes to the immigration debate, because there has been an undertone that has been ugly. Oftentimes, it has been directed at the Hispanic community. We have seen hate crimes skyrocket in the wake of the immigration debate…and that is unacceptable.” Obama on the border fence: “There may be areas where it makes sense to have some fencing. But for the most part, having border patrolled, surveillance, deploying effective technology, that’s going to be the better approach.” To read more about the debate, click here.
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#2. To: ghostdogtxn, Brian S, aristeides, iconoclast, Elliott Jackalope, Cynicom, a vast rightwing conspirator, swarthyguy, Zoroaster, Artisan, angle (#0)
This is not a pro-McCain ping.
Simply put, if you want to move to this country, you should come here legally. If you come here illegally, you should be deported. But the illegals are not the ones who make my blood boil, it's the employers who hire the illegals that need to be dealt with severely. I'd recommend fines of thousands of dollars per day per illegal hired, and that would be for a first offense. Second offense would mean mandatory jail time of at least six months, in addition to triple the fines of the first offense. Now, if we actually had a government of "We the People" something like this could be enacted. But we live in an oligarchic dictatorship, so nothing is going to change short of revolt.
About the most we can hope for is when "We The People" block some bill, as when the American people blocked the McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill.
We did not win. We got HR 1955 and McCain/Obama/Clinton as front runners in response.
We did not win. I think it's called "hold that line" and when confronted with the next bill (which we surely will be) we must apply our opposition just as vigorously. We got HR 1955 Yepers, and it passed the House with 404 votes. Republicans voting NO were: John 'Jimmy' Duncan, Jeff Flake, Dana Rohrabacher 'Splain that one.
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#6. To: buckeye (#2)
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#9. To: Elliott Jackalope (#6)
Now, if we actually had a government of "We the People" something like this could be enacted. But we live in an oligarchic dictatorship, so nothing is going to change short of revolt.
#10. To: MUDDOG (#9)
About the most we can hope for is when "We The People" block some bill, as when the American people blocked the McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill.
#16. To: buckeye (#10)
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