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Title: Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies
Source: Canwest News Service
URL Source: http://www.canada.com/topics/news/s ... 41ac-8cef-902a1d14879d&k=14984
Published: Feb 23, 2008
Author: David Pugliese
Post Date: 2008-02-23 17:13:11 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 166
Comments: 8

Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other's borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.

Neither the Canadian government nor the Canadian Forces announced the new agreement, which was signed Feb. 14 in Texas.

The U.S. military's Northern Command, however, publicized the agreement with a statement outlining how its top officer, Gen. Gene Renuart, and Canadian Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, head of Canada Command, signed the plan, which allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency.

The new agreement has been greeted with suspicion by the left wing in Canada and the right wing in the U.S.

The left-leaning Council of Canadians, which is campaigning against what it calls the increasing integration of the U.S. and Canadian militaries, is raising concerns about the deal.

"It's kind of a trend when it comes to issues of Canada-U.S. relations and contentious issues like military integration. We see that this government is reluctant to disclose information to Canadians that is readily available on American and Mexican websites," said Stuart Trew, a researcher with the Council of Canadians.

Trew said there is potential for the agreement to militarize civilian responses to emergency incidents. He noted that work is also underway for the two nations to put in place a joint plan to protect common infrastructure such as roadways and oil pipelines.

"Are we going to see (U.S.) troops on our soil for minor potential threats to a pipeline or a road?" he asked.

Trew also noted the U.S. military does not allow its soldiers to operate under foreign command so there are questions about who controls American forces if they are requested for service in Canada. "We don't know the answers because the government doesn't want to even announce the plan," he said.

But Canada Command spokesman Commander David Scanlon said it will be up to civilian authorities in both countries on whether military assistance is requested or even used.

He said the agreement is "benign" and simply sets the stage for military-to-military co-operation if the governments approve.

"But there's no agreement to allow troops to come in," he said. "It facilitates planning and co-ordination between the two militaries. The 'allow' piece is entirely up to the two governments."

If U.S. forces were to come into Canada they would be under tactical control of the Canadian Forces but still under the command of the U.S. military, Scanlon added.

News of the deal, and the allegation it was kept secret in Canada, is already making the rounds on left-wing blogs and Internet sites as an example of the dangers of the growing integration between the two militaries.

On right-wing blogs in the U.S. it is being used as evidence of a plan for a "North American union" where foreign troops, not bound by U.S. laws, could be used by the American federal government to override local authorities.

"Co-operative militaries on Home Soil!" notes one website. "The next time your town has a 'national emergency,' don't be surprised if Canadian soldiers respond. And remember - Canadian military aren't bound by posse comitatus."

Posse comitatus is a U.S. law that prohibits the use of federal troops from conducting law enforcement duties on domestic soil unless approved by Congress.

Scanlon said there was no intent to keep the agreement secret on the Canadian side of the border. He noted it will be reported on in the Canadian Forces newspaper next week and that publication will be put on the Internet.

Scanlon said the actual agreement hasn't been released to the public as that requires approval from both nations. That decision has not yet been taken, he added.


Poster Comment:

This is bad news. Not that I fear the Canadian army. Those guys would turn tail and run after trying to occupy Los Angeles for just three days.

What I fear is that an agreement with Canada means that we also have an agreement with Mexico. If we have an economic collapse and 25% unemployment, Mexican drug gangs in America can send out for help to related drug gangs from Mexico which have tens of thousands of members. They could make an EMERGENCT that would require us to call in the Mexican army for assistance. They could carve up AMerica into zones of influence so we would never have a nation again.

The Canadian PM Harper is a Bilderberger.

I keep telling people that several different Chinese people who know Chinese Intelligence officers have told me that they expect the UN to give California to the Chinese. I have further been told that their army is eager to get to California so they can rape all of the California high school girls.

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

California

That might not be such a bad thing. Let the Chinese try and quell Los Angeles. Certainly the fruity Bay Area folks would suddenly have a conversion of heart.

Were I a betting person, I'd lay money that they'd vacate the place after a year of having to deal with the illegals, the gangs, and Mexico whining about how horribly the Chinese are treating their people.

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2008-02-23   17:39:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: mirage, Horse, Americans (#1)

Aaron Zellman, JFPO.ORG, suggests, nay, recommends immediately shooting anyone who comes to your door in a 'foreign' uniform, for whatever reason.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution
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Lod  posted on  2008-02-23   17:55:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lodwick (#2)

Canucks in the wire!


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-02-23   18:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Horse (#0)

I keep telling people that several different Chinese people who know Chinese Intelligence officers have told me that they expect the UN to give California to the Chinese. I have further been told that their army is eager to get to California so they can rape all of the California high school girls.

If they came to the U.S., they wouldn't know what hit them.

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2008-02-23   18:10:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: mirage (#1)

Were I a betting person, I'd lay money that they'd vacate the place after a year of having to deal with the illegals, the gangs, and Mexico whining about how horribly the Chinese are treating their people.

The sadist in me wants to see what would happen when the Chinese PLA jackboots meet the ghetto gang bangers.

Any attempts at whining about "narrow eyed crackers" oppressing them would be met with a hail of gunfire. Said gunfire would be met with an even greater return volley.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.

"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-02-23   18:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Horse (#0)

Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies

"Hey hoser, step away from the car and put your hands up, ey?"

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-02-23   19:31:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Horse (#0)

What I fear is that an agreement with Canada means that we also have an agreement with Mexico.

no doubt....long before 911 there was a report entitled NAFTA for the military that was calling for joint military with Canada and Mexico. It's hard to find the article anymore. This is the best I could do.

www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=59291

President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-02-23   20:01:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#5)

The sadist in me wants to see what would happen when the Chinese PLA jackboots meet the ghetto gang bangers.

Nobody fights a guerrilla war quite like a gang-banger.

Should this happen, shall we start a pool on who wins?

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2008-02-24   16:13:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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