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Title: How about a Ron Paul/Pat Buchanan ticket?
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Published: Feb 23, 2008
Author: Pat Buchanan
Post Date: 2008-02-23 18:28:16 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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The NR rebuttal.

Does this mean that Demjanjuk was innocent in all respects? Or that Pat Buchanan was right in every case in which he alleged a miscarriage of justice? No. But it establishes the presumption, surely, that Mr. Buchanan interested himself in such cases because he feared such miscarriages and not, as Mr. Muravchik seems to imply, because he is indifferent to Nazi crimes.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-23   20:00:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That would suck the very hardest, imo.

What a lame idea.

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Lod  posted on  2008-02-23   21:38:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why?

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-02-23   21:42:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

PJB has been more hammered than has RP - I'd like to see Judge A.N. as his (RP's) running mate.

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Lod  posted on  2008-02-23   21:54:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Y'all rejected this firebrand and thought RP would get nominated?

What a hoot.

This battle scarred, war horse, prophet wouldn't take a second chair on another Quixotic adventure for all the dollars in China.

Shame on all of you for falling for an MSM scourging of him and rejecting him in the first place.

I still proudly wear my "Buchanan in 2000" cap from time to time.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   22:14:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Not only no, but hell no.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-23   22:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Not only no, but hell no.

Care to elaborate, ignoramus?

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   22:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Care to elaborate, ignoramus?

Fukk yourself.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-23   22:33:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Fukk yourself.

I expected no more.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   22:41:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I can imagine what your expectations are.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-23   22:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I felt like Buchanan went down too easily during the Rep primaries and didn't say squat when they denied him a speakers opportunity at the convention.

Huh?

Which primaries? What convention?

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   22:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If he said "kike" at 8 then he'd set up concentration camps once in office.

You forgot your /sarc.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   22:48:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I can imagine what your expectations are.

Your specialty seems to be be short and worthless posts.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   22:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I wish I could get the two of you to stop going around in circles. Let us have our hope for Ron Paul's eventual victory. We'll understand your need to implode the GOP.

But bickering back and forth when we basically have the same aims isn't going to help us at all.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-23   22:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Your specialty seems to be be short and worthless posts.

I'm not the one wearing a Buchanan 2000 hat.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-23   22:54:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Let us have our hope for Ron Paul's eventual victory.

I support Ron Paul.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-23   22:56:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I do too. I don't really understand the folks flocking to Obama to hurt the GOP. It's the same uniparty, just a different wing. Ron Paul just happens to be a Republican.

I happened to enjoy the speech in the above video, though.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-23   22:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't really understand the folks flocking to Obama I don't really understand the folks flocking to Obama

Do you suspect the media may orchestrating that?

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-23   23:00:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yes, now that you mention it, I do. Almost every time I happen to see a tube, there's Obama's face on it. The word "change" is prominent during these moments.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-23   23:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I wish I could get the two of you to stop going around in circles. Let us have our hope for Ron Paul's eventual victory. We'll understand your need to implode the GOP.

I thought I was being rather direct.

The video spoke for itself.

I don't suffer fools gladly.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   23:06:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Mister, the video was awesome.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-23   23:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I support Ron Paul.

OK, I'll try one more time.

In what material way do their views and solutions diverge? Other than perhaps tariffs, in which, BTW, RP's stance is disturbingly NWO and in direct contradiction of those of the founding fathers?

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   23:14:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

BTW, RP's stance is disturbingly NWO

As one blogger put it, totally unencumbered trade ends up being very difficult. This is a counterintuitive observation, but it makes sense. Without NGOs to negotiate trade regulations, it's much harder. Also, Ron Paul has said that he can accept low tariffs.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-23   23:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As one blogger put it, totally unencumbered trade ends up being very difficult.

In our particular case it would appear to be economic suicide.

Another disturbing point, how can a true libertarian whole heartedly reject open borders?

RP has unquestionably been the best voice in opposition to the establishment this past year ... but the final answer will not come from a libertarian.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   23:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Which primaries? What convention?

1996 campaign (Wikipedia)

Buchanan won primaries or caucuses in four states: New Hampshire, Missouri, Louisiana and Alaska. Buchanan again sought the Republican nomination in 1996 while voicing his opposition to the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). Buchanan won an upset victory in the New Hampshire primary in February, defeating Senator Bob Dole by about 3,000 votes. At a rally in Nashua, he said, "We shocked them in Alaska. Stunned them in Louisiana. Stunned them in Iowa. They are in a terminal panic. They hear the shouts of the peasants from over the hill. All the knights and barons will be riding into the castle pulling up the drawbridge in a minute. All the peasants are coming with pitchforks. We're going to take this over the top."[20] While campaigning, Buchanan energized his supporters with the slogan "The peasants are coming with pitchforks", occasionally appearing with a prop pitchfork, thus earning him the nickname "Pitchfork Pat".

Pat was later denied the ability to speak at the Republican Convention in San Diego.

noone222  posted on  2008-02-24   1:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You forgot your /sarc.

Once more in that vein.

Pat's sister shore is a purty little thang! ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-02-24   1:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Buchanan won primaries or caucuses in four states: New Hampshire, Missouri, Louisiana and Alaska. Buchanan again sought the Republican nomination in 1996 while voicing his opposition to the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). Buchanan won an upset victory in the New Hampshire primary in February, defeating Senator Bob Dole by about 3,000 votes. At a rally in Nashua, he said, "We shocked them in Alaska. Stunned them in Louisiana. Stunned them in Iowa. They are in a terminal panic. They hear the shouts of the peasants from over the hill. All the knights and barons will be riding into the castle pulling up the drawbridge in a minute. All the peasants are coming with pitchforks. We're going to take this over the top."[20] While campaigning, Buchanan energized his supporters with the slogan "The peasants are coming with pitchforks", occasionally appearing with a prop pitchfork, thus earning him the nickname "Pitchfork Pat".

No one in my lifetime has drawn the line between the plutocrats and true conservatives more sharply or pungently than PJB.

Pat was later denied the ability to speak at the Republican Convention in San Diego.

Gee, I wonder why.

Btw, I didn't bother to watch the coronation of the hapless Viagra huckster '96.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-24   7:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the hapless Viagra huckster '96.

The intentional loser, as was George H. W. Bush (my opinion).

And the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the purpose of enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder their people, are among the greatest villains that the world has ever seen. And they as much deserve to be hunted and killed (if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave traders, robbers, or pirates that ever lived. ... Lysander Spooner

noone222  posted on  2008-02-24   8:01:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The intentional loser, as was George H. W. Bush (my opinion).

I take it you expected the Pubbies to dump Poppy at mid-term?

Eyes rolling.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-24   8:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

In what material way do their views and solutions diverge?

The problem with Buchanan is that he's as likeable as Hillary Clinton, imo. If the electorate is what the RP movement needs, PB as VP ain't it.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-24   8:35:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

BTW, I like a lot of what Buchanan writes and says. However, he excuses the BushCheney adminstration when they should be excoriated.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-24   8:36:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The problem with Buchanan is that he's as likeable as Hillary Clinton, imo. If the electorate is what the RP movement needs, PB as VP ain't it.

Nic name of ...Pat Bucannon is not without reason...

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-24   8:37:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The problem with Buchanan is that he's as likeable as Hillary Clinton, imo. If the electorate is what the RP movement needs, PB as VP ain't it.

Nic name of ...Pat Bucannon is not without reason...

Puzzling.

A jollier politician I cannot recall.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-24   8:44:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A jollier politician I cannot recall.

Well then, keep wearing your hat and push for Buchanan as VP.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-24   8:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The Republican establishment beat up Buchanan. His message (and RPs for that matter) will never be accepted by a multicultural/mongroid America. His time is past; government has become too large and useful for too many to reject. IMO, anyone who remains optimistic about our future, lives in a Limbaugh-like delusion. Enjoy each day we have left. The fight for freedom some thought would be waged was nothing more than Internet noise. Obama will continue our swerve into socialism and his cheerleaders will never waver. To do so would be deemed racist and that charge alone is enough to shut their mouths.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-24   8:57:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I take it you expected the Pubbies to dump Poppy at mid-term?

It wasn't what I expected, but it is what I perceived happening. And, it's what I said was happening during their campaigns.

Old man Bush's campaign was a lackluster as Dole's and at the time I said just that, "he's trying to lose".

And the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the purpose of enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder their people, are among the greatest villains that the world has ever seen. And they as much deserve to be hunted and killed (if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave traders, robbers, or pirates that ever lived. ... Lysander Spooner

noone222  posted on  2008-02-24   9:06:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

government has become too large and useful for too many to reject

Justly many of them will feel the bite of failed socialism along with the rest of the country. Just how long do you think this ship can float with the amount of damage it's incurred. To November? It's listing pretty badly. Massive infusions of liquidity cannot hide the price of bread.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-24   9:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What was the scoop?

My opinion is that Pat was ordered to stand down. (By the Powers That be). And he did, just like a good soldier.

And the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the purpose of enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder their people, are among the greatest villains that the world has ever seen. And they as much deserve to be hunted and killed (if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave traders, robbers, or pirates that ever lived. ... Lysander Spooner

noone222  posted on  2008-02-24   9:08:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I think this ship floats until the completion of the NAU - which is nothing more than a desperate corporate merger done on the scale of nations. Once our technology component is joined with cheap labor (Mexico) and open land mass (Canada) we'll have another few decades to try and right the ship. We won't be a nation, of course, but that's fine with the elite.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-24   9:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I voted for Buchanan in 2000. But I must say that I now think, after the fact, that he was carrying out a mission he had been assigned (by the Powers That Be) to destroy the Reform Party. His campaign was too excruciatingly bad, and the destruction of the Reform Party too complete, for me to be able to believe that it was just incompetence and bad luck.

I was also shocked by how Buchanan was able to support Bush in 2004, after all the bad things he said about the Iraq war.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-02-24   9:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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