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Title: How about a Ron Paul/Pat Buchanan ticket?
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Published: Feb 23, 2008
Author: Pat Buchanan
Post Date: 2008-02-23 18:28:16 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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#1. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

I like the idea.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-23   18:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeye (#1)

Pat Buchanan agrees with Ron Paul

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-02-23   18:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

No.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-23   18:34:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

How about a Ron Paul/Pat Buchanan ticket?

I don't know, I think Buchanan is a little too hard core for the 'soft-Conservatives'.

Pern  posted on  2008-02-23   18:38:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Pern (#4)

Pat Buchanan supports Ron Paul not John Mccain!

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-02-23   18:40:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#5)

Oh, I'd be all for it, but if you think the NeoCon's tried to attack Paul as being a 'racist' (how absurd), they'd have a field day with Pat.

Pern  posted on  2008-02-23   18:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

After he pretty much destroyed the reform party, I have no use for the guy. I honestly think he is a globalist tool.

Rebates for Ron - Ron Paul For Dummies - New R3volution

Critter  posted on  2008-02-23   18:46:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Critter (#7)

He didn't destroy the Reform Party. The "MEDIA" destroyed him when he said '..the NWO would come crumbling down.'

The MEDIA is the ENEMY

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-02-23   18:49:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, Critter, Cynicom (#8)

Yes, let's be clear on that. The media does its utmost to unravel any of these attempts.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-23   18:56:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#8)

I felt like Buchanan went down too easily during the Rep primaries and didn't say squat when they denied him a speakers opportunity at the convention.

He and Paul would be better than the rest.

noone222  posted on  2008-02-23   19:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: noone222, Itisa1mosttoolate, Cynicom, Critter (#10)

Rumor on TOS2 has it that the Buchanans did not do a good job of this campaign. What was the scoop?

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-23   19:05:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#0)

Does this ticket come with a parachute for quick bails?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-23   19:19:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

After Pat won New Hampshire a mysterious childhood "friend" emerged and claimed that Pat called him a "kike" when they were both 8 years old.

Now, I don't know about you but, I wouldn't want someone like that representing me.

If he said "kike" at 8 then he'd set up concentration camps once in office.

We just can't risk it because he may be waiting to "finish the job", you know?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-02-23   19:29:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: HOUNDDAWG (#13)

Here's the 'other' reason the MEDIA destroyed him

findarticles.com/p/articl...82/is_n23_v45/ai_14753228

ps it also tells you who the MEDIA is

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-02-23   19:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, HOUNDDAWG (#14)

findarticles.com/p/articl...82/is_n23_v45/ai_14753238

The NR rebuttal.

Does this mean that Demjanjuk was innocent in all respects? Or that Pat Buchanan was right in every case in which he alleged a miscarriage of justice? No. But it establishes the presumption, surely, that Mr. Buchanan interested himself in such cases because he feared such miscarriages and not, as Mr. Muravchik seems to imply, because he is indifferent to Nazi crimes.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-23   20:00:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

That would suck the very hardest, imo.

What a lame idea.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution
Freedom*Peace*Prosperity

Lod  posted on  2008-02-23   21:38:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: lodwick (#16)

Why?

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-02-23   21:42:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#17)

PJB has been more hammered than has RP - I'd like to see Judge A.N. as his (RP's) running mate.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution
Freedom*Peace*Prosperity

Lod  posted on  2008-02-23   21:54:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

Y'all rejected this firebrand and thought RP would get nominated?

What a hoot.

This battle scarred, war horse, prophet wouldn't take a second chair on another Quixotic adventure for all the dollars in China.

Shame on all of you for falling for an MSM scourging of him and rejecting him in the first place.

I still proudly wear my "Buchanan in 2000" cap from time to time.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   22:14:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

Not only no, but hell no.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-23   22:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: angle (#20)

Not only no, but hell no.

Care to elaborate, ignoramus?

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   22:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: iconoclast (#21)

Care to elaborate, ignoramus?

Fukk yourself.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-23   22:33:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: angle (#22)

Fukk yourself.

I expected no more.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   22:41:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: iconoclast (#23)

I can imagine what your expectations are.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-23   22:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: noone222 (#10)

I felt like Buchanan went down too easily during the Rep primaries and didn't say squat when they denied him a speakers opportunity at the convention.

Huh?

Which primaries? What convention?

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   22:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: HOUNDDAWG (#13)

If he said "kike" at 8 then he'd set up concentration camps once in office.

You forgot your /sarc.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   22:48:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: angle (#24)

I can imagine what your expectations are.

Your specialty seems to be be short and worthless posts.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   22:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: iconoclast, angle (#27)

I wish I could get the two of you to stop going around in circles. Let us have our hope for Ron Paul's eventual victory. We'll understand your need to implode the GOP.

But bickering back and forth when we basically have the same aims isn't going to help us at all.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-23   22:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: iconoclast (#27)

Your specialty seems to be be short and worthless posts.

I'm not the one wearing a Buchanan 2000 hat.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-23   22:54:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeye (#28)

Let us have our hope for Ron Paul's eventual victory.

I support Ron Paul.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-23   22:56:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: angle (#30)

I do too. I don't really understand the folks flocking to Obama to hurt the GOP. It's the same uniparty, just a different wing. Ron Paul just happens to be a Republican.

I happened to enjoy the speech in the above video, though.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-23   22:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: buckeye (#31)

I don't really understand the folks flocking to Obama I don't really understand the folks flocking to Obama

Do you suspect the media may orchestrating that?

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-23   23:00:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#32)

Yes, now that you mention it, I do. Almost every time I happen to see a tube, there's Obama's face on it. The word "change" is prominent during these moments.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-23   23:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: buckeye, angle (#28)

I wish I could get the two of you to stop going around in circles. Let us have our hope for Ron Paul's eventual victory. We'll understand your need to implode the GOP.

I thought I was being rather direct.

The video spoke for itself.

I don't suffer fools gladly.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   23:06:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: iconoclast (#34)

Mister, the video was awesome.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-23   23:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: angle (#30)

I support Ron Paul.

OK, I'll try one more time.

In what material way do their views and solutions diverge? Other than perhaps tariffs, in which, BTW, RP's stance is disturbingly NWO and in direct contradiction of those of the founding fathers?

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   23:14:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: iconoclast (#36)

BTW, RP's stance is disturbingly NWO

As one blogger put it, totally unencumbered trade ends up being very difficult. This is a counterintuitive observation, but it makes sense. Without NGOs to negotiate trade regulations, it's much harder. Also, Ron Paul has said that he can accept low tariffs.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-23   23:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: buckeye (#37)

As one blogger put it, totally unencumbered trade ends up being very difficult.

In our particular case it would appear to be economic suicide.

Another disturbing point, how can a true libertarian whole heartedly reject open borders?

RP has unquestionably been the best voice in opposition to the establishment this past year ... but the final answer will not come from a libertarian.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-23   23:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: iconoclast (#25)

Which primaries? What convention?

1996 campaign (Wikipedia)

Buchanan won primaries or caucuses in four states: New Hampshire, Missouri, Louisiana and Alaska. Buchanan again sought the Republican nomination in 1996 while voicing his opposition to the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). Buchanan won an upset victory in the New Hampshire primary in February, defeating Senator Bob Dole by about 3,000 votes. At a rally in Nashua, he said, "We shocked them in Alaska. Stunned them in Louisiana. Stunned them in Iowa. They are in a terminal panic. They hear the shouts of the peasants from over the hill. All the knights and barons will be riding into the castle pulling up the drawbridge in a minute. All the peasants are coming with pitchforks. We're going to take this over the top."[20] While campaigning, Buchanan energized his supporters with the slogan "The peasants are coming with pitchforks", occasionally appearing with a prop pitchfork, thus earning him the nickname "Pitchfork Pat".

Pat was later denied the ability to speak at the Republican Convention in San Diego.

noone222  posted on  2008-02-24   1:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: iconoclast (#26)

You forgot your /sarc.

Once more in that vein.

Pat's sister shore is a purty little thang! ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-02-24   1:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: noone222, *Ron Paul for President 2008* (#39)

Buchanan won primaries or caucuses in four states: New Hampshire, Missouri, Louisiana and Alaska. Buchanan again sought the Republican nomination in 1996 while voicing his opposition to the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). Buchanan won an upset victory in the New Hampshire primary in February, defeating Senator Bob Dole by about 3,000 votes. At a rally in Nashua, he said, "We shocked them in Alaska. Stunned them in Louisiana. Stunned them in Iowa. They are in a terminal panic. They hear the shouts of the peasants from over the hill. All the knights and barons will be riding into the castle pulling up the drawbridge in a minute. All the peasants are coming with pitchforks. We're going to take this over the top."[20] While campaigning, Buchanan energized his supporters with the slogan "The peasants are coming with pitchforks", occasionally appearing with a prop pitchfork, thus earning him the nickname "Pitchfork Pat".

No one in my lifetime has drawn the line between the plutocrats and true conservatives more sharply or pungently than PJB.

Pat was later denied the ability to speak at the Republican Convention in San Diego.

Gee, I wonder why.

Btw, I didn't bother to watch the coronation of the hapless Viagra huckster '96.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-24   7:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: iconoclast (#41)

the hapless Viagra huckster '96.

The intentional loser, as was George H. W. Bush (my opinion).

And the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the purpose of enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder their people, are among the greatest villains that the world has ever seen. And they as much deserve to be hunted and killed (if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave traders, robbers, or pirates that ever lived. ... Lysander Spooner

noone222  posted on  2008-02-24   8:01:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: noone222 (#42)

The intentional loser, as was George H. W. Bush (my opinion).

I take it you expected the Pubbies to dump Poppy at mid-term?

Eyes rolling.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-24   8:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: iconoclast (#36)

In what material way do their views and solutions diverge?

The problem with Buchanan is that he's as likeable as Hillary Clinton, imo. If the electorate is what the RP movement needs, PB as VP ain't it.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-24   8:35:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: iconoclast (#44) (Edited)

BTW, I like a lot of what Buchanan writes and says. However, he excuses the BushCheney adminstration when they should be excoriated.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-24   8:36:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: angle (#44)

The problem with Buchanan is that he's as likeable as Hillary Clinton, imo. If the electorate is what the RP movement needs, PB as VP ain't it.

Nic name of ...Pat Bucannon is not without reason...

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-24   8:37:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Cynicom, angle (#46)

The problem with Buchanan is that he's as likeable as Hillary Clinton, imo. If the electorate is what the RP movement needs, PB as VP ain't it.

Nic name of ...Pat Bucannon is not without reason...

Puzzling.

A jollier politician I cannot recall.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-24   8:44:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: iconoclast (#47)

A jollier politician I cannot recall.

Well then, keep wearing your hat and push for Buchanan as VP.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-24   8:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: All (#47)

The Republican establishment beat up Buchanan. His message (and RPs for that matter) will never be accepted by a multicultural/mongroid America. His time is past; government has become too large and useful for too many to reject. IMO, anyone who remains optimistic about our future, lives in a Limbaugh-like delusion. Enjoy each day we have left. The fight for freedom some thought would be waged was nothing more than Internet noise. Obama will continue our swerve into socialism and his cheerleaders will never waver. To do so would be deemed racist and that charge alone is enough to shut their mouths.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-24   8:57:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: iconoclast (#43)

I take it you expected the Pubbies to dump Poppy at mid-term?

It wasn't what I expected, but it is what I perceived happening. And, it's what I said was happening during their campaigns.

Old man Bush's campaign was a lackluster as Dole's and at the time I said just that, "he's trying to lose".

And the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the purpose of enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder their people, are among the greatest villains that the world has ever seen. And they as much deserve to be hunted and killed (if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave traders, robbers, or pirates that ever lived. ... Lysander Spooner

noone222  posted on  2008-02-24   9:06:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Jethro Tull (#49)

government has become too large and useful for too many to reject

Justly many of them will feel the bite of failed socialism along with the rest of the country. Just how long do you think this ship can float with the amount of damage it's incurred. To November? It's listing pretty badly. Massive infusions of liquidity cannot hide the price of bread.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-24   9:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: buckeye (#11)

What was the scoop?

My opinion is that Pat was ordered to stand down. (By the Powers That be). And he did, just like a good soldier.

And the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the purpose of enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder their people, are among the greatest villains that the world has ever seen. And they as much deserve to be hunted and killed (if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave traders, robbers, or pirates that ever lived. ... Lysander Spooner

noone222  posted on  2008-02-24   9:08:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: angle (#51)

I think this ship floats until the completion of the NAU - which is nothing more than a desperate corporate merger done on the scale of nations. Once our technology component is joined with cheap labor (Mexico) and open land mass (Canada) we'll have another few decades to try and right the ship. We won't be a nation, of course, but that's fine with the elite.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-24   9:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: noone222 (#52)

I voted for Buchanan in 2000. But I must say that I now think, after the fact, that he was carrying out a mission he had been assigned (by the Powers That Be) to destroy the Reform Party. His campaign was too excruciatingly bad, and the destruction of the Reform Party too complete, for me to be able to believe that it was just incompetence and bad luck.

I was also shocked by how Buchanan was able to support Bush in 2004, after all the bad things he said about the Iraq war.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-02-24   9:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: iconoclast (#54)

I was also shocked by how Buchanan was able to support Bush in 2004, after all the bad things he said about the Iraq war.

ping

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-24   10:04:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: aristeides (#54)

I was also shocked by how Buchanan was able to support Bush in 2004, after all the bad things he said about the Iraq war.

I think there would have been some interest in having Buchanan show up again if he hadn't folded in prior campaigns. I supported his campaign in 1996 and still support the ideas conveyed. I was one that showed up at a San Diego fund raiser pitch-fork in hand. (Got threatened by a SS agent).

The night that Buchanan lost the AZ primary he was leading by a fair margin at 11:00 PM and ended up losing by that much a little while later.

It appeared that the fix was in. After AZ, Pat barely made a blip on the political radar screen.

And the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the purpose of enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder their people, are among the greatest villains that the world has ever seen. And they as much deserve to be hunted and killed (if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave traders, robbers, or pirates that ever lived. ... Lysander Spooner

noone222  posted on  2008-02-24   10:35:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: aristeides (#54)

I voted for Buchanan in 2000. But I must say that I now think, after the fact, that he was carrying out a mission he had been assigned (by the Powers That Be) to destroy the Reform Party. His campaign was too excruciatingly bad, and the destruction of the Reform Party too complete, for me to be able to believe that it was just incompetence and bad luck.

I was also shocked by how Buchanan was able to support Bush in 2004, after all the bad things he said about the Iraq war.

Google Pauken and the "phone call." Buchanan expected a lot of support from Perot, who regrettably went all out to pull the rug from under Buchanan, who then had to put a lot of his energies into dealing with a hostile party that he'd been promised on a platter. The article by Pauken explains the rumors about why this was.

I believe that Buchanan's overwhelming ambition is to end abortion; Bush gave him what Kerry wouldn't.

Tacitus  posted on  2008-02-24   10:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

Both Buchanan and Ron Paul are now living examples of opportunities lost.

Buchanan lost the opportunity he had as an 'independent' running for the US prez by spending nearly all his energy and channeling all the media coverage on his struggle to gain control over the Reform Party's money. Ron Paul lost the opportunity he would have had as an 'independent' by insisting to seek the GOP nomination (oh... what a honor it is to be nominated by the criminally stupid party). Now, both Buchanan and Ron Paul project images of defeated 'also runs' or, to put it in not so nice words, losers.

Can't see the wisdom of pairing a loser with another loser.

Oh, and one more thing. Both Buchanan and Ron Paul are old. Buchanan looks VERY old already and, while Ron Paul looks a lot better than McCain, he IS in his 70's too. There's no way Ron Paul could win the US presidency now so, if anyone hopes to see some interesting developments 4 years from now, better think of someone in their 50's or early 60's.

Can anyone think of any political figure in their 50's or 60's that's not a monster?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-24   10:48:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#58)

You're going to make a lot of enemies here, saying Ron Paul is a 'looser.'

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-02-24   10:52:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#59)

I know, people are afraid to face reality and are scared by certain words but I'm not running for office.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-24   10:58:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#60)

Like Pat B Congressman Admits a Conspiracy for Global Gov't Exists

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-02-24   11:02:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0) (Edited)

Not very likely. Buchanan won't run for office again after his dismal 2000 showing (half a percent or less), and Ron Paul won't run on a third party ticket.

I also don't get the impression that RP and PJB get along or like one another very much. RP refused to endorse PJB's candidacy in 2000 (I wonder if he was on PJB's short list for VP candidates), and PJB never came out and endorsed Paul in the primaries either, as far as I know.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-02-24   12:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#8)

He didn't destroy the Reform Party. The "MEDIA" destroyed him when he said '..the NWO would come crumbling down.'

The mass media had it in for Buchanan from the first time he ran for President, but he still managed to win a lot of support during his first two runs by good campaigning. His 2000 run was completely inept, it was as if he didn't have his heart in it and called it a lost cause before he even got started.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-02-24   12:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#62)

I also don't get the impression that RP and PJB get along or like one another very much.

PJB is populist, protectionist, and enthusiastically pro-sovereignty and closed borders.

Not exactly the ingredients you're likely to find in a libertarian cocktail.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-24   13:11:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Cynicom, angle (#46)

The problem with Buchanan is that he's as likeable as Hillary Clinton, imo. If the electorate is what the RP movement needs, PB as VP ain't it.

Nic name of ...Pat Bucannon is not without reason...

AIPAC and the elitist media (pardon the redundancy) overwhelmed the masses with a message that Pat was the bogeyman of bias ... apparently the residue of that slander resonates still with several on these threads.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-24   13:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: iconoclast (#65)

... apparently the residue of that slander resonates still with several on these threads.

PB brings too much prior baggage for a run with Paul. Far too many times Pats lips are flapping before his brain kicks in. Run him with anyone else but not Ron Paul.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-24   13:51:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: iconoclast (#65)

the residue of that slander resonates still

Good try, but no banana. Buchanan fails on his own.

"Just sit back, don't do anything about it and everything will work out. Hahaha." - Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-24   15:45:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: angle (#45)

he excuses the BushCheney adminstration when they should be excoriated.

I agree ... I'm very disappointed with his ongoing intransigent support of the Plutocrat Party.

Puzzling and frustrating.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-25   8:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Tacitus (#57)

Perot, who regrettably went all out to pull the rug from under Buchanan

Perot has always been all about Perot, all the time.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-25   8:15:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Tacitus (#57)

Google Pauken and the "phone call."

Very interesting ...... and reminiscent of the phone call to Truman from a long time Jewish supporter ... a call widely believed to have caused the reversal of Truman's opposition to the establishment of a Jewish state in the ME.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-25   8:34:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#58)

Can anyone think of any political figure in their 50's or 60's that's not a monster?

The "Boomers" are an American political tragedy.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-25   8:38:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: angle (#67)

Good try, but no banana. Buchanan fails on his own.

Pat was political dead meat the first time he mentioned the "amen corner".

I see a lot of vague references to Pat's "loose lips", etc. but I've yet to see an example.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-25   8:42:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: aristeides (#54)

I was also shocked by how Buchanan was able to support Bush in 2004, after all the bad things he said about the Iraq war.

PJB jus' keeps on trying to resurrect a dead party.

A thankless, fruitless, Quixotic venture.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-25   19:59:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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