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Title: The friends of Barack Obama
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URL Source: http://www.observer.com/node/36953
Published: Feb 26, 2008
Author: NY Observer
Post Date: 2008-02-26 15:08:38 by Jethro Tull
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very reasonable to most of us
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' What has he meddled in exactly? I remember something about Haiti.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' He's meddled in our freedom thru his Open Society Foundation and their endless legislative assaults on our borders, our guns and the desire to make certain speech criminal.
One of the Asian countries was brought nearly to its knees by Soros and financial buzzards.
So he is open border and supports gun control. I can believe that. But what is it about free speech that he dislikes?
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' "(FORTUNE Magazine) – Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad, who was on vacation during the speculative attack on Southeast Asia's currencies in mid-July, returned to Kuala Lumpur in a combative mood. Mahathir remains certain he has identified what caused the currency assault, which wiped 15% off the value of the Malaysian ringgit in the past two months: namely, George Soros, American billionaire hedge-fund manager. Mahathir, who vociferously objects to the merest hint of Western meddling in Asian affairs, believes Soros' aim is to punish Malaysia for its support of Myanmar, or, specifically, its ruling junta, the State Law and Order Council (SLORC). Soros' Open Society Institute opposes the antidemocratic activities of SLORC but has repeatedly denied that this has influenced Soros' investment decisions. "There is absolutely no connection between the Open Society Institute's Burma Project and the currency trading conducted by Soros Fund Management," Soros declared in an official statement. Even so, Soros was irked that in late July, Mahathir and the other leaders of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations formally ushered Myanmar into ASEAN. Here follow excerpts from an exclusive interview FORTUNE's Neel Chowdhury had with Mahathir in Kuala Lumpur:"
findarticles.com/p/articl...is_2001_Feb_5/ai_70506332 Many Thais blame Soros and other speculators for the crash of the Thai baht in 1997. Soros has denied responsibility, saying his Quantam Groups of Funds had not sold baht during or just before the crisis, but had instead bought baht and Malaysian ringgit when those currencies began to fall. Some Internet postings said Soros should not be solely blamed for attacks on the baht that triggered the crisis. They said Thai leaders and central bank authorities at the time were also at fault.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' Soros is a predator.
Myanmar or Burma en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar I don't know about the meddling, but if he dislikes this govt, he is right to.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' I just don't see that yet.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' With all due respect robin, you need new glasses. Soros has been around a long time, known financial scavenger.
But what exactly has he done that is so evil? Is financial scavenging by definition evil? And remember who we are comparing him to, the advisers for McCain and Hillary.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' So this alone doesn't cause you to flee from him as if your hair were on fire?
All three are open border, where do I run? McCain may not be pro gun control but he is real happy with the unPatriot Act, wiretapping Americans and the war in Iraq.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' Where do you run? Well......not into the arms of the enemy, or enemies of America. The FReeple dilemma of the lesser of two evils is best left in FReepertown. As we both know it's been a dreadfully unsuccessful strategy as our nation has continued it's leftward lurch for the entire course of both of our lifetimes. Somethings that are offered as solutions are really electronic scams dressed up as (s)elections. Ample proof supports this conclusion. IMO, Nothing less than a total rejection of the two National party candidates, or a useless, but principled vote for a qualified 3rd party candidate, is rational.
Life is full of compromises, my vote has never been exactly what I wanted, it never will be.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' i couldn't agree more.
Two wings of the same bird. Vote all you want, the flight plan doesn't change.
robin... Compromising is what has gotten this country to the edge of the abyss.
What do you suggest Cyni? 4 years of McCain?
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' To vote for a gun grabbing, open border acolyte isn't compromise, IMO, it's more a total capitulation to our enemies.
But it will be settled on one of the two in Nov anyway. Do you really see no difference between McCain and Obama?
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' To not vote and allow an open border, war mongering, liberty snatching liar and criminal get 4 years in the WH is to be an accomplice to his deeds, IMO. Here in SoCal, we've been screaming about the open border for decades - our complaints fell on deaf ears. Nothing has been done about it, not by Reagan, not by anyone. So what's new? The war, the 100 years of war that McCain dreams about every night.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' robin... There is no difference. Not one iota. Whether one votes for McCain, Obama or Clinton, it does not matter. Nothing will change. Not a thing. They are all part and parcel members of the ruling elite system.
I didn't say not to vote. A vote (if in fact it's tallied) for the R or D will yield all that you outlined above. Obama has as his richest donor a socialist, gun-grabber who yearns for a one world government. We both agree yet you somehow rationalize voting for a lesser of two evils? Our entire voting life has been this non-option and it's driven this nation ever leftward. It took me awhile, but I finally cought on. Is left the direction you want to go? If not, vote 3rd party, or stay with RP - he's still running, right? And since when is any righteous vote wasted? Is a vote valid only when cast for someone with a winning potential, even if by winning we lose?
If it is as you say, that it makes no difference then what harm does it do to throw the dice in the direction of the only one without ties to the current administration.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' I don't think it makes a bit of difference, do you? If no, have a ball. If you aren't sure it makes a difference then you're affirming a corrupt process that offers a false hope to the less aware among us. Here's where we could provide some education to the duped - incidentally when RP failed to offer this educational opportunity his candidacy fell apart.
In '04 I voted Constitution Party, but only b/c CA went clearly for Kerry. If it is close in CA I will cast my vote against McCain, otherwise, I will vote Constitution Party or write in Ron Paul. I see this as realistic voting. I admire Dr. Paul very much. I think we need a new standard bearer for Dr. Paul's message.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' On this we're in complete agreement.
I am not sure, but I am hoping it makes a difference. I am driven by fear, the fear of McCain or Hillary in the WH.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' I hear you. The problem with becoming aware is that we all arrive on the time line at a different time and place and progress, or regress, at different speeds. It's a variable thing and obviously I've reached the anarchist/nationalist stage (if there is such a thing):)
Leave a space for me just in case.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' There is only "ONE" party. It makes no difference whom you vote for. Illustration...If you check the internet, in the late 1940s, BOTH political parties offered their party to Eisenhower. Both parties. How is that possible??? "Because they are one and the same"
All of these former Clintonistas are backing "The 'Bama Man" for one reason-the 22nd amendment. If Bill was running again these folks wouldn't have jumped ship, and in fact Barack probably wouldn't even be running. The message is clear, and Bill better not even raise an eyebrow when Hillary sees this. And, G_d help him if he snickers!
The treasonous Clinton years were easier for Americans than the Bush years; although completely downhill. Maybe one side of the coin has less sandpaper? BTW I found this wiki entry for Soros (Schwarz). Soros is famously known for "breaking the Bank of England" on Black Wednesday in 1992. With an estimated current net worth of around $8.5 billion, he is ranked by Forbes as the 80th-richest person in the world.[1] Former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker wrote in 2003 in the foreword of Soros' book The Alchemy of Finance: "George Soros has made his mark as an enormously successful speculator, wise enough to largely withdraw when still way ahead of the game. The bulk of his enormous winnings is now devoted to encouraging transitional and emerging nations to become 'open societies,' open not only in the sense of freedom of commerce but - more important - tolerant of new ideas and different modes of thinking and behavior." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros Now dear purist friend, compare him to Henry Kissinger, who supports and advises McCain. Dr. Henry Kissinger Endorses John McCain for President 'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' They are all part and parcel members of the ruling elite system. Would you also have said that about FDR? Would you also have said that about JFK?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
General Colin Powell too, sort of, although he did not run.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' Would you also have said that about JFK? Certainly...Ruling elite. Kennedys wealth...Roosevelts family of wealth.
So, you would say that FDR had made no fundamental change in the system, and JFK was not attempting to make one. A lot of people would be satisfied with that much change.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Say a prayer for the common foot soldier President Franklin D. Roosevelt's Jewish Cabal Some of these Jews were directly responsible for plunging America into WWII by deliberately alienating America from anti-Communist countries such as Germany and Japan long before the outbreak of hostilities. These Jews also pioneered the idea of Big Egalitarian Government in America; some of them were later discovered to have been spies for the Soviet Union. close pal of FDR, spokesman for the American Zionist movement, head of The American Jewish Congress. head of the Writer's Project under the W.P.A.
Jethro left off Jack Lash.
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U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#21. To: Jethro Tull (#16)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#22. To: robin (#21)
#23. To: robin (#21)
#24. To: Jethro Tull (#22)
his Open Society Foundation and their endless legislative assaults on our borders, our guns and the desire to make certain speech criminal.
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#25. To: Jethro Tull, robin (#22)
#26. To: Cynicom (#23)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#27. To: robin (#26)
#28. To: Cynicom (#25)
Mahathir, who vociferously objects to the merest hint of Western meddling in Asian affairs, believes Soros' aim is to punish Malaysia for its support of Myanmar, or, specifically, its ruling junta, the State Law and Order Council (SLORC). Soros' Open Society Institute opposes the antidemocratic activities of SLORC but has repeatedly denied that this has influenced Soros' investment decisions.
Several human rights organizations, including Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, and the American Association for the Advancement of Science have reported on human rights abuses by the military government.
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#29. To: Cynicom (#27)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#30. To: robin (#29)
#31. To: Cynicom (#30)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#32. To: robin (#24)
So he is open border and supports gun control
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#32)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#34. To: robin (#33)
#35. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#36. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
IMO, Nothing less than a total rejection of the two National party candidates, or a useless, but principled vote for a qualified 3rd party candidate, is rational.
#37. To: robin (#35)
Life is full of compromises, my vote has never been exactly what I wanted, it never will be.
#38. To: Cynicom (#37)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#39. To: robin (#35)
#40. To: christine, Jethro Tull, Cynicom (#36)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#41. To: Jethro Tull (#39)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#42. To: robin (#38)
#43. To: robin (#41)
To not vote and allow an open border, war mongering, liberty snatching liar and criminal get 4 years in the WH is to be an accomplice to his deeds, IMO.
#44. To: Cynicom (#42)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#45. To: robin (#44)
If it is as you say, that it makes no difference then what harm does it do to throw the dice in the direction of the only one without ties to the current administration.
#46. To: Jethro Tull (#43)
If not, vote 3rd party, or stay with RP - he's still running, right? And since when is any righteous vote wasted? Is a vote valid only when cast for someone with a winning potential, even if by winning we lose?
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#47. To: robin (#46)
I think we need a new standard bearer for Dr. Paul's message.
#48. To: Jethro Tull (#45)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#49. To: robin (#48)
#50. To: Jethro Tull (#49)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#51. To: robin (#44)
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#53. To: Cynicom (#51)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#54. To: Cynicom (#42)
There is no difference. Not one iota. Whether one votes for McCain, Obama or Clinton, it does not matter. Nothing will change. Not a thing.
#55. To: Cynicom (#51)
Illustration...If you check the internet, in the late 1940s, BOTH political parties offered their party to Eisenhower. Both parties. How is that possible???
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#56. To: aristeides (#54)
Would you also have said that about FDR?
#57. To: Cynicom (#56)
#58. To: aristeides, robin, cynicom, christine, HOUNDDAWG, all (#54)
Lets drink to the hard working people
Lets drink to the lowly of birth
Raise your glass to the good and the evil
Lets drink to the salt of the earth
Spare a thought for his back breaking work
Say a prayer for his wife and his children
Who burn the fires and who still till the earth 
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (photo at right), president of the United States of America, 1933-1945, was himself partly of Dutch-Jewish ancestry.
1. Bernard M. Baruch -- a financier and adviser to FDR.
2. Felix Frankfurter -- Supreme Court Justice; a key player in FDR's New Deal system.
3. David E. Lilienthal -- director of Tennessee Valley Authority, adviser. The TVA changed the relationship of government-to-business in America.
4. David Niles -- presidential aide.
5. Louis Brandeis -- U.S. Supreme Court Justice; confidante of FDR; "Father" of New Deal.
6. Samuel I. Rosenman -- official speechwriter for FDR.
7. Henry Morgenthau Jr. -- Secretary of the Treasury, "unofficial" presidential adviser. Father of the Morgenthau Plan to re-structure Germany/Europe after WWII.
8. Benjamin V. Cohen -- State Department official, adviser to FDR.
9. Rabbi Stephen Wise --
10. Frances Perkins -- Secretary of Labor; allegedly Jewish/adopted at birth; unconfirmed.
11. Sidney Hillman -- presidential adviser.
12. Anna Rosenberg -- longtime labor adviser to FDR, and manpower adviser with the Manpower Consulting Committee of the Army and Navy Munitions Board and the War Manpower Commission.
13. Herbert H. Lehman -- Governor of New York, 1933-1942, Director of U.S. Office of Foreign Relief and Rehabilitation Operations, Department of State, 1942-1943; Director-General of UNRRA, 1944 - 1946, pal of FDR.
14. Herbert Feis -- U.S. State Department official, economist, and an adviser on international economic affairs.
15. R. S. Hecht -- financial adviser to FDR.
16. Nathan Margold -- Department of the Interior Solicitor, legal adviser.
17. Jesse I. Straus -- adviser to FDR.
18. H. J. Laski -- "unofficial foreign adviser" to FDR.
19. E. W. Goldenweiser -- Federal Reserve Director.
20. Charles E. Wyzanski -- U.S. Labor department legal adviser.
21. Samuel Untermyer -- lawyer, "unofficial public ownership adviser" to FDR.
22. Jacob Viner -- Tax expert at the U.S. Treasury Department, assistant to the Treasury Secretary.
23. Edward Filene -- businessman, philanthropist, unofficial presidential adviser.
24. David Dubinsky -- Labor leader, president of International Ladies Garment Workers Union.
25. William C. Bullitt -- part-Jewish, ambassador to USSR [is claimed to be Jonathan Horwitz's grandson; unconfirmed].
26. Mordecai Ezekiel -- Agriculture Department economist.
27. Abe Fortas -- Assistant director of Securities and Exchange Commission, Department of the Interior Undersecretary.
28. Isador Lubin -- Commissioner of Labor Statistics, unofficial labor economist to FDR.
29. Harry Dexter White [Weiss] -- Assistant Secretary of the Treasury; a key founder of the International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank; adviser, close pal of Henry Morgenthau. Co-wrote the Morgenthau Plan.
30. Alexander Holtzoff -- Special assistant, U.S. Attorney General's Office until 1945; [presumed to be Jewish; unconfirmed].
31. David Weintraub -- official in the Office of Foreign Relief and Rehabilitation Operations; helped create the United Nations; Secretary, Committee on Supplies, 1944-1946.
32. Nathan Gregory Silvermaster -- Agriculture Department official and head of the Near East Division of the Board of Economic Warfare; helped create the United Nations.
33. Harold Glasser -- Treasury Department director of the division of monetary research. Treasury spokesman on the affairs of United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration.
34. Irving Kaplan -- U.S. Treasury Department official, pal of David Weintraub.
35. Solomon Adler -- Treasury Department representative in China during World War II.
36. Benjamin Cardozo -- U.S. Supreme Court Justice.
37. Leo Wolman -- chairman of the National Recovery Administration's Labor advisory Board; labor economist.
38. Rose Schneiderman -- labor organizer; on the advisory board of the National Recovery Administration.
39. Jerome Frank -- general counsel to the Agricultural Adjustment Administration, Justice, U.S. Court of Appeals, 1941-57.
40. Gerard Swope -- key player in the creation of the N.R.A. [National Recovery Administration]
41. Herbert Bayard Swope -- brother of Gerard
42. Lucien Koch -- consumer division, N.R.A. [apparently-Jewish]
43. J. David Stern -- Federal Reserve Board, appointed by FDR
44. Nathan Straus -- housing advisor
45. Charles Michaelson -- Democratic [DNC] publicity man
46. Lawrence Steinhardt -- ambassador to Soviet Union
47. Harry Guggenheim -- heir to Guggenheim fortune, advisor on aviation
48. Arthur Garfield Hays -- adviser on civil liberties
49. David Lasser -- head of Worker's Alliance, labor activist
50. Max Zaritsky -- labor adviser
51. James Warburg -- millionaire, early backer of New Deal before backing out
52. Louis Kirstein -- associate of E. Filene
53. Charles Wyzanski, Jr. -- counsel, Dept. of Labor
54. Charles Taussig -- early New Deal adviser
55. Jacob Baker -- assistant to W.P.A. head Harry Hopkins; assistant head of W.P.A. [Works Progress Admin.]
56. Louis H. Bean -- Dept. of Agriculture official
57. Abraham Fox -- research director, Tariff Commission
58. Benedict Wolf -- National Labor Relations Board [NLRB]
59. William Leiserson -- NLRB
60. David J. Saposs -- NLRB
61. A. H. Meyers -- NLRB [New England division]
62. L. H. Seltzer -- head economist at the Treasury Dept.
63. Edward Berman -- Dept. of Labor official
64. Jacob Perlman -- Dept. of Labor official
65. Morris L. Jacobson -- chief statistician of the Government Research Project
66. Jack Levin -- assistant general manager, Rural Electrification Authority
67. Harold Loeb -- economic consultant, N.R.P.
68. William Seagle -- council, Petroleum Labor Policy Board
69. Herman A. Gray -- policy committee, National Housing Conference
70. Alexander Sachs -- rep. of Lehman Bros., early New Deal consultant
71. Paul Mazur -- rep. of Lehman Bros., early consultant for New Deal
72. Henry Alsberg --
73. Lincoln Rothschild -- New Deal art administrator
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