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Title: The friends of Barack Obama
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URL Source: http://www.observer.com/node/36953
Published: Feb 26, 2008
Author: NY Observer
Post Date: 2008-02-26 15:08:38 by Jethro Tull
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#35. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
Life is full of compromises, my vote has never been exactly what I wanted, it never will be.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' i couldn't agree more.
Two wings of the same bird. Vote all you want, the flight plan doesn't change.
robin... Compromising is what has gotten this country to the edge of the abyss.
What do you suggest Cyni? 4 years of McCain?
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' To vote for a gun grabbing, open border acolyte isn't compromise, IMO, it's more a total capitulation to our enemies.
But it will be settled on one of the two in Nov anyway. Do you really see no difference between McCain and Obama?
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' To not vote and allow an open border, war mongering, liberty snatching liar and criminal get 4 years in the WH is to be an accomplice to his deeds, IMO. Here in SoCal, we've been screaming about the open border for decades - our complaints fell on deaf ears. Nothing has been done about it, not by Reagan, not by anyone. So what's new? The war, the 100 years of war that McCain dreams about every night.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' robin... There is no difference. Not one iota. Whether one votes for McCain, Obama or Clinton, it does not matter. Nothing will change. Not a thing. They are all part and parcel members of the ruling elite system.
I didn't say not to vote. A vote (if in fact it's tallied) for the R or D will yield all that you outlined above. Obama has as his richest donor a socialist, gun-grabber who yearns for a one world government. We both agree yet you somehow rationalize voting for a lesser of two evils? Our entire voting life has been this non-option and it's driven this nation ever leftward. It took me awhile, but I finally cought on. Is left the direction you want to go? If not, vote 3rd party, or stay with RP - he's still running, right? And since when is any righteous vote wasted? Is a vote valid only when cast for someone with a winning potential, even if by winning we lose?
If it is as you say, that it makes no difference then what harm does it do to throw the dice in the direction of the only one without ties to the current administration.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' I don't think it makes a bit of difference, do you? If no, have a ball. If you aren't sure it makes a difference then you're affirming a corrupt process that offers a false hope to the less aware among us. Here's where we could provide some education to the duped - incidentally when RP failed to offer this educational opportunity his candidacy fell apart.
In '04 I voted Constitution Party, but only b/c CA went clearly for Kerry. If it is close in CA I will cast my vote against McCain, otherwise, I will vote Constitution Party or write in Ron Paul. I see this as realistic voting. I admire Dr. Paul very much. I think we need a new standard bearer for Dr. Paul's message.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' On this we're in complete agreement.
I am not sure, but I am hoping it makes a difference. I am driven by fear, the fear of McCain or Hillary in the WH.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' I hear you. The problem with becoming aware is that we all arrive on the time line at a different time and place and progress, or regress, at different speeds. It's a variable thing and obviously I've reached the anarchist/nationalist stage (if there is such a thing):)
Leave a space for me just in case.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' There is only "ONE" party. It makes no difference whom you vote for. Illustration...If you check the internet, in the late 1940s, BOTH political parties offered their party to Eisenhower. Both parties. How is that possible??? "Because they are one and the same"
All of these former Clintonistas are backing "The 'Bama Man" for one reason-the 22nd amendment. If Bill was running again these folks wouldn't have jumped ship, and in fact Barack probably wouldn't even be running. The message is clear, and Bill better not even raise an eyebrow when Hillary sees this. And, G_d help him if he snickers!
The treasonous Clinton years were easier for Americans than the Bush years; although completely downhill. Maybe one side of the coin has less sandpaper? BTW I found this wiki entry for Soros (Schwarz). Soros is famously known for "breaking the Bank of England" on Black Wednesday in 1992. With an estimated current net worth of around $8.5 billion, he is ranked by Forbes as the 80th-richest person in the world.[1] Former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker wrote in 2003 in the foreword of Soros' book The Alchemy of Finance: "George Soros has made his mark as an enormously successful speculator, wise enough to largely withdraw when still way ahead of the game. The bulk of his enormous winnings is now devoted to encouraging transitional and emerging nations to become 'open societies,' open not only in the sense of freedom of commerce but - more important - tolerant of new ideas and different modes of thinking and behavior." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros Now dear purist friend, compare him to Henry Kissinger, who supports and advises McCain. Dr. Henry Kissinger Endorses John McCain for President 'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' They are all part and parcel members of the ruling elite system. Would you also have said that about FDR? Would you also have said that about JFK?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
General Colin Powell too, sort of, although he did not run.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' Would you also have said that about JFK? Certainly...Ruling elite. Kennedys wealth...Roosevelts family of wealth.
So, you would say that FDR had made no fundamental change in the system, and JFK was not attempting to make one. A lot of people would be satisfied with that much change.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Say a prayer for the common foot soldier President Franklin D. Roosevelt's Jewish Cabal Some of these Jews were directly responsible for plunging America into WWII by deliberately alienating America from anti-Communist countries such as Germany and Japan long before the outbreak of hostilities. These Jews also pioneered the idea of Big Egalitarian Government in America; some of them were later discovered to have been spies for the Soviet Union. close pal of FDR, spokesman for the American Zionist movement, head of The American Jewish Congress. head of the Writer's Project under the W.P.A.
Jethro left off Jack Lash.
Seems like I remember that Reagan had even more Jews than FDR. 84 rings a bell Dems and pubs alike, perhaps a token black but the Jews run their government for them. I wonder why that is?????
Yep, then Clinton had 22 in his cabinet IIRC. Can you please enlighten me as to why anyone with anyone with any degree of political acumen would try and raise the ghost of FDR???
The friends of Eddie Coyle.
Ari likes Lincoln also, does that ring a bell? Jews owned and operated Lincoln. No blacks there either.
The Jewish Confederates 'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' I cant go there... Judah Benjamin was the largest slaveholder in the US, he was Jew.
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'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' Thanks... I figured Benjamin would be a part of whatever you referred to. Benjamin had wealth and 150 black people that slaved seven days a week to make that wealth. Benjamin later ran so as to not be tried by the Yankees. He lived out his life in England.
Oh that's interesting.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' If you check you will find that it was a crime to buy southern cotton. The South sold it to finance the war. The major buyers were northern Jews that shipped it overseas at huge profits. Grand and sherman had them banned ferom their command areas. Two days later the Jew controllers in DC came into Lincolns office and made him over rule Sherman and Grant. That was 150 years ago, look what we have now, no blacks and wall to wall Jews in government.
And who and what are the people buying and owning Obama?????? They aint Irish.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (photo at right), president of the United States of America, 1933-1945, was himself partly of Dutch-Jewish ancestry. Well, Joseph Goebbels and his Ministry of Propaganda certainly repeatedly made that claim. But I can't say I've ever seen it supported in a reliable source.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
So let me understand what it is you're saying; you disregard my source as Goebbels-like propaganda, without offering a source of your own as rebuttal. I'd say your argument resembles the blind loyality FReeple People show to Herr Bush.
You want a source? The Wikipedia entry on the Roosevelt family certainly mentions the family's Dutch origins, but makes no mention of any Jewish ancestry. By the way, if you bother to look at pp. 84-86 of Jeffrey Herf's The Jewish Enemy: Nazi Propaganda During World War II and the Holocaust, you will see that claims like yours about Roosevelt's Jewish ancestry and lists of all the Jews in his administration are to be found in such documents coming out of Goebbels's Propaganda Ministry as the Directive: Jews in the USA [Hauptthema: Juden in den USA] of May 30, 1941. By the way, here's an interesting passage from Hitler's Table Talk, dated July 1, 1942 [I quote from Hugh Trevor-Roper's translation, but I checked the original German, and it's there too]: Roosevelt, who both in his handling of political issues and in his general attitude, behaves like a tortuous, pettifogging Jew, himself boasted recently that he had "noble" Jewish blood in his veins. The completely negroid appearance of his wife is also a clear indication that she, too, is a half-caste.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
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U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#36. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
IMO, Nothing less than a total rejection of the two National party candidates, or a useless, but principled vote for a qualified 3rd party candidate, is rational.
#37. To: robin (#35)
Life is full of compromises, my vote has never been exactly what I wanted, it never will be.
#38. To: Cynicom (#37)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#39. To: robin (#35)
#40. To: christine, Jethro Tull, Cynicom (#36)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#41. To: Jethro Tull (#39)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#42. To: robin (#38)
#43. To: robin (#41)
To not vote and allow an open border, war mongering, liberty snatching liar and criminal get 4 years in the WH is to be an accomplice to his deeds, IMO.
#44. To: Cynicom (#42)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#45. To: robin (#44)
If it is as you say, that it makes no difference then what harm does it do to throw the dice in the direction of the only one without ties to the current administration.
#46. To: Jethro Tull (#43)
If not, vote 3rd party, or stay with RP - he's still running, right? And since when is any righteous vote wasted? Is a vote valid only when cast for someone with a winning potential, even if by winning we lose?
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#47. To: robin (#46)
I think we need a new standard bearer for Dr. Paul's message.
#48. To: Jethro Tull (#45)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#49. To: robin (#48)
#50. To: Jethro Tull (#49)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#51. To: robin (#44)
#52. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#53. To: Cynicom (#51)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#54. To: Cynicom (#42)
There is no difference. Not one iota. Whether one votes for McCain, Obama or Clinton, it does not matter. Nothing will change. Not a thing.
#55. To: Cynicom (#51)
Illustration...If you check the internet, in the late 1940s, BOTH political parties offered their party to Eisenhower. Both parties. How is that possible???
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#56. To: aristeides (#54)
Would you also have said that about FDR?
#57. To: Cynicom (#56)
#58. To: aristeides, robin, cynicom, christine, HOUNDDAWG, all (#54)
Lets drink to the hard working people
Lets drink to the lowly of birth
Raise your glass to the good and the evil
Lets drink to the salt of the earth
Spare a thought for his back breaking work
Say a prayer for his wife and his children
Who burn the fires and who still till the earth 
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (photo at right), president of the United States of America, 1933-1945, was himself partly of Dutch-Jewish ancestry.
1. Bernard M. Baruch -- a financier and adviser to FDR.
2. Felix Frankfurter -- Supreme Court Justice; a key player in FDR's New Deal system.
3. David E. Lilienthal -- director of Tennessee Valley Authority, adviser. The TVA changed the relationship of government-to-business in America.
4. David Niles -- presidential aide.
5. Louis Brandeis -- U.S. Supreme Court Justice; confidante of FDR; "Father" of New Deal.
6. Samuel I. Rosenman -- official speechwriter for FDR.
7. Henry Morgenthau Jr. -- Secretary of the Treasury, "unofficial" presidential adviser. Father of the Morgenthau Plan to re-structure Germany/Europe after WWII.
8. Benjamin V. Cohen -- State Department official, adviser to FDR.
9. Rabbi Stephen Wise --
10. Frances Perkins -- Secretary of Labor; allegedly Jewish/adopted at birth; unconfirmed.
11. Sidney Hillman -- presidential adviser.
12. Anna Rosenberg -- longtime labor adviser to FDR, and manpower adviser with the Manpower Consulting Committee of the Army and Navy Munitions Board and the War Manpower Commission.
13. Herbert H. Lehman -- Governor of New York, 1933-1942, Director of U.S. Office of Foreign Relief and Rehabilitation Operations, Department of State, 1942-1943; Director-General of UNRRA, 1944 - 1946, pal of FDR.
14. Herbert Feis -- U.S. State Department official, economist, and an adviser on international economic affairs.
15. R. S. Hecht -- financial adviser to FDR.
16. Nathan Margold -- Department of the Interior Solicitor, legal adviser.
17. Jesse I. Straus -- adviser to FDR.
18. H. J. Laski -- "unofficial foreign adviser" to FDR.
19. E. W. Goldenweiser -- Federal Reserve Director.
20. Charles E. Wyzanski -- U.S. Labor department legal adviser.
21. Samuel Untermyer -- lawyer, "unofficial public ownership adviser" to FDR.
22. Jacob Viner -- Tax expert at the U.S. Treasury Department, assistant to the Treasury Secretary.
23. Edward Filene -- businessman, philanthropist, unofficial presidential adviser.
24. David Dubinsky -- Labor leader, president of International Ladies Garment Workers Union.
25. William C. Bullitt -- part-Jewish, ambassador to USSR [is claimed to be Jonathan Horwitz's grandson; unconfirmed].
26. Mordecai Ezekiel -- Agriculture Department economist.
27. Abe Fortas -- Assistant director of Securities and Exchange Commission, Department of the Interior Undersecretary.
28. Isador Lubin -- Commissioner of Labor Statistics, unofficial labor economist to FDR.
29. Harry Dexter White [Weiss] -- Assistant Secretary of the Treasury; a key founder of the International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank; adviser, close pal of Henry Morgenthau. Co-wrote the Morgenthau Plan.
30. Alexander Holtzoff -- Special assistant, U.S. Attorney General's Office until 1945; [presumed to be Jewish; unconfirmed].
31. David Weintraub -- official in the Office of Foreign Relief and Rehabilitation Operations; helped create the United Nations; Secretary, Committee on Supplies, 1944-1946.
32. Nathan Gregory Silvermaster -- Agriculture Department official and head of the Near East Division of the Board of Economic Warfare; helped create the United Nations.
33. Harold Glasser -- Treasury Department director of the division of monetary research. Treasury spokesman on the affairs of United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration.
34. Irving Kaplan -- U.S. Treasury Department official, pal of David Weintraub.
35. Solomon Adler -- Treasury Department representative in China during World War II.
36. Benjamin Cardozo -- U.S. Supreme Court Justice.
37. Leo Wolman -- chairman of the National Recovery Administration's Labor advisory Board; labor economist.
38. Rose Schneiderman -- labor organizer; on the advisory board of the National Recovery Administration.
39. Jerome Frank -- general counsel to the Agricultural Adjustment Administration, Justice, U.S. Court of Appeals, 1941-57.
40. Gerard Swope -- key player in the creation of the N.R.A. [National Recovery Administration]
41. Herbert Bayard Swope -- brother of Gerard
42. Lucien Koch -- consumer division, N.R.A. [apparently-Jewish]
43. J. David Stern -- Federal Reserve Board, appointed by FDR
44. Nathan Straus -- housing advisor
45. Charles Michaelson -- Democratic [DNC] publicity man
46. Lawrence Steinhardt -- ambassador to Soviet Union
47. Harry Guggenheim -- heir to Guggenheim fortune, advisor on aviation
48. Arthur Garfield Hays -- adviser on civil liberties
49. David Lasser -- head of Worker's Alliance, labor activist
50. Max Zaritsky -- labor adviser
51. James Warburg -- millionaire, early backer of New Deal before backing out
52. Louis Kirstein -- associate of E. Filene
53. Charles Wyzanski, Jr. -- counsel, Dept. of Labor
54. Charles Taussig -- early New Deal adviser
55. Jacob Baker -- assistant to W.P.A. head Harry Hopkins; assistant head of W.P.A. [Works Progress Admin.]
56. Louis H. Bean -- Dept. of Agriculture official
57. Abraham Fox -- research director, Tariff Commission
58. Benedict Wolf -- National Labor Relations Board [NLRB]
59. William Leiserson -- NLRB
60. David J. Saposs -- NLRB
61. A. H. Meyers -- NLRB [New England division]
62. L. H. Seltzer -- head economist at the Treasury Dept.
63. Edward Berman -- Dept. of Labor official
64. Jacob Perlman -- Dept. of Labor official
65. Morris L. Jacobson -- chief statistician of the Government Research Project
66. Jack Levin -- assistant general manager, Rural Electrification Authority
67. Harold Loeb -- economic consultant, N.R.P.
68. William Seagle -- council, Petroleum Labor Policy Board
69. Herman A. Gray -- policy committee, National Housing Conference
70. Alexander Sachs -- rep. of Lehman Bros., early New Deal consultant
71. Paul Mazur -- rep. of Lehman Bros., early consultant for New Deal
72. Henry Alsberg --
73. Lincoln Rothschild -- New Deal art administrator
#59. To: aristeidesJethro Tull (#57)
#60. To: Jethro Tull (#58)
#61. To: Jethro Tull, Aristedes (#58)
#62. To: Cynicom (#61)
#63. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
I've already said too much.
#64. To: Jethro Tull (#62)
Can you please enlighten me as to why anyone with anyone with any degree of political acumen would try and raise the ghost of FDR???Can you please enlighten me as to why anyone with anyone with any degree of political acumen would try and raise the ghost of FDR???
#65. To: Cynicom (#64)
www.nytimes.com/books/first/r/rosen-confederates.html
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#66. To: robin (#65)
#67. To: Cynicom (#66)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#68. To: robin (#67)
#69. To: Cynicom (#68)
Benjamin later ran so as to not be tried by the Yankees. He lived out his life in England.
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#70. To: robin (#69)
#71. To: robin (#69)
#72. To: Jethro Tull (#58)
#73. To: aristeides, cynicom, all (#72)
But I can't say I've ever seen it supported in a reliable source.
#74. To: Jethro Tull (#73)
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