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Title: The friends of Barack Obama
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URL Source: http://www.observer.com/node/36953
Published: Feb 26, 2008
Author: NY Observer
Post Date: 2008-02-26 15:08:38 by Jethro Tull
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#49. To: robin (#48)
I hear you. The problem with becoming aware is that we all arrive on the time line at a different time and place and progress, or regress, at different speeds. It's a variable thing and obviously I've reached the anarchist/nationalist stage (if there is such a thing):)
Leave a space for me just in case.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' There is only "ONE" party. It makes no difference whom you vote for. Illustration...If you check the internet, in the late 1940s, BOTH political parties offered their party to Eisenhower. Both parties. How is that possible??? "Because they are one and the same"
All of these former Clintonistas are backing "The 'Bama Man" for one reason-the 22nd amendment. If Bill was running again these folks wouldn't have jumped ship, and in fact Barack probably wouldn't even be running. The message is clear, and Bill better not even raise an eyebrow when Hillary sees this. And, G_d help him if he snickers!
The treasonous Clinton years were easier for Americans than the Bush years; although completely downhill. Maybe one side of the coin has less sandpaper? BTW I found this wiki entry for Soros (Schwarz). Soros is famously known for "breaking the Bank of England" on Black Wednesday in 1992. With an estimated current net worth of around $8.5 billion, he is ranked by Forbes as the 80th-richest person in the world.[1] Former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker wrote in 2003 in the foreword of Soros' book The Alchemy of Finance: "George Soros has made his mark as an enormously successful speculator, wise enough to largely withdraw when still way ahead of the game. The bulk of his enormous winnings is now devoted to encouraging transitional and emerging nations to become 'open societies,' open not only in the sense of freedom of commerce but - more important - tolerant of new ideas and different modes of thinking and behavior." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros Now dear purist friend, compare him to Henry Kissinger, who supports and advises McCain. Dr. Henry Kissinger Endorses John McCain for President 'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' They are all part and parcel members of the ruling elite system. Would you also have said that about FDR? Would you also have said that about JFK?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
General Colin Powell too, sort of, although he did not run.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' Would you also have said that about JFK? Certainly...Ruling elite. Kennedys wealth...Roosevelts family of wealth.
So, you would say that FDR had made no fundamental change in the system, and JFK was not attempting to make one. A lot of people would be satisfied with that much change.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Say a prayer for the common foot soldier President Franklin D. Roosevelt's Jewish Cabal Some of these Jews were directly responsible for plunging America into WWII by deliberately alienating America from anti-Communist countries such as Germany and Japan long before the outbreak of hostilities. These Jews also pioneered the idea of Big Egalitarian Government in America; some of them were later discovered to have been spies for the Soviet Union. close pal of FDR, spokesman for the American Zionist movement, head of The American Jewish Congress. head of the Writer's Project under the W.P.A.
Jethro left off Jack Lash.
Seems like I remember that Reagan had even more Jews than FDR. 84 rings a bell Dems and pubs alike, perhaps a token black but the Jews run their government for them. I wonder why that is?????
Yep, then Clinton had 22 in his cabinet IIRC. Can you please enlighten me as to why anyone with anyone with any degree of political acumen would try and raise the ghost of FDR???
The friends of Eddie Coyle.
Ari likes Lincoln also, does that ring a bell? Jews owned and operated Lincoln. No blacks there either.
The Jewish Confederates 'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' I cant go there... Judah Benjamin was the largest slaveholder in the US, he was Jew.
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'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' Thanks... I figured Benjamin would be a part of whatever you referred to. Benjamin had wealth and 150 black people that slaved seven days a week to make that wealth. Benjamin later ran so as to not be tried by the Yankees. He lived out his life in England.
Oh that's interesting.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' If you check you will find that it was a crime to buy southern cotton. The South sold it to finance the war. The major buyers were northern Jews that shipped it overseas at huge profits. Grand and sherman had them banned ferom their command areas. Two days later the Jew controllers in DC came into Lincolns office and made him over rule Sherman and Grant. That was 150 years ago, look what we have now, no blacks and wall to wall Jews in government.
And who and what are the people buying and owning Obama?????? They aint Irish.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (photo at right), president of the United States of America, 1933-1945, was himself partly of Dutch-Jewish ancestry. Well, Joseph Goebbels and his Ministry of Propaganda certainly repeatedly made that claim. But I can't say I've ever seen it supported in a reliable source.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
So let me understand what it is you're saying; you disregard my source as Goebbels-like propaganda, without offering a source of your own as rebuttal. I'd say your argument resembles the blind loyality FReeple People show to Herr Bush.
You want a source? The Wikipedia entry on the Roosevelt family certainly mentions the family's Dutch origins, but makes no mention of any Jewish ancestry. By the way, if you bother to look at pp. 84-86 of Jeffrey Herf's The Jewish Enemy: Nazi Propaganda During World War II and the Holocaust, you will see that claims like yours about Roosevelt's Jewish ancestry and lists of all the Jews in his administration are to be found in such documents coming out of Goebbels's Propaganda Ministry as the Directive: Jews in the USA [Hauptthema: Juden in den USA] of May 30, 1941. By the way, here's an interesting passage from Hitler's Table Talk, dated July 1, 1942 [I quote from Hugh Trevor-Roper's translation, but I checked the original German, and it's there too]: Roosevelt, who both in his handling of political issues and in his general attitude, behaves like a tortuous, pettifogging Jew, himself boasted recently that he had "noble" Jewish blood in his veins. The completely negroid appearance of his wife is also a clear indication that she, too, is a half-caste.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
If you know of a better encyclopedic source of information on line, nothing is stopping you from linking to it.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Ari... Give it up. To you there is no reliable source on anything. And Hitler seems to have a special niche in your mind for some reason, never mention his idol Stalin. I suspect it is other than an intellectual interest.
Why should I bother when anything I post that doesn't fit your leftist agenda is criticized?
Very good summary.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
What is exactly known about this Wolf? Did you expect these guys to sit out 2008? I don't know anything about Wolf either. Soros is strongly anti-Iraq war, but I suspect it comes down, from his perspective, as the least of three evils.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
Soros is very concerned about rising worldwide anti-semitism.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
I guess I have to conclude that the only sources you could cite are ones with a pretty obvious pro-Nazi agenda.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I'm not the one who first brought up one of Hitler's idées fixes on this thread, am I?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
No doubt. But from that he does not conclude that everything Israel does should be defended. Rather, he concludes that organizations like AIPAC should avoid conduct (like shutting down discourse) that will provoke anti-Semitism.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I suppose so. Anything you disagree with seems to get your pro-Nazi treatment.
I think my #73 proves that you were spouting a favorite item in the Nazis' propaganda agenda. That doesn't necessarily mean it's false, of course. But ideas coming from that sort of source should be backed up by proof.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
The spat Soros is having with AIPAC is more about him doing business as usual than any fundamental disagreement. What he can't buy and control, he attempts to destroy and rebuild in his own image and likeness. That he is among Obama's earliest supporter is nothing more than this strategy on display. He is in the process of filling the empty suit with his own hot air, much to the delight of the less politically astute.
I feel certain that you feel that way about your #73.
You don't believe that that line you were spouting was a favorite item in the Nazis' propaganda agenda?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
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#50. To: Jethro Tull (#49)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#51. To: robin (#44)
#52. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#53. To: Cynicom (#51)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#54. To: Cynicom (#42)
There is no difference. Not one iota. Whether one votes for McCain, Obama or Clinton, it does not matter. Nothing will change. Not a thing.
#55. To: Cynicom (#51)
Illustration...If you check the internet, in the late 1940s, BOTH political parties offered their party to Eisenhower. Both parties. How is that possible???
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#56. To: aristeides (#54)
Would you also have said that about FDR?
#57. To: Cynicom (#56)
#58. To: aristeides, robin, cynicom, christine, HOUNDDAWG, all (#54)
Lets drink to the hard working people
Lets drink to the lowly of birth
Raise your glass to the good and the evil
Lets drink to the salt of the earth
Spare a thought for his back breaking work
Say a prayer for his wife and his children
Who burn the fires and who still till the earth 
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (photo at right), president of the United States of America, 1933-1945, was himself partly of Dutch-Jewish ancestry.
1. Bernard M. Baruch -- a financier and adviser to FDR.
2. Felix Frankfurter -- Supreme Court Justice; a key player in FDR's New Deal system.
3. David E. Lilienthal -- director of Tennessee Valley Authority, adviser. The TVA changed the relationship of government-to-business in America.
4. David Niles -- presidential aide.
5. Louis Brandeis -- U.S. Supreme Court Justice; confidante of FDR; "Father" of New Deal.
6. Samuel I. Rosenman -- official speechwriter for FDR.
7. Henry Morgenthau Jr. -- Secretary of the Treasury, "unofficial" presidential adviser. Father of the Morgenthau Plan to re-structure Germany/Europe after WWII.
8. Benjamin V. Cohen -- State Department official, adviser to FDR.
9. Rabbi Stephen Wise --
10. Frances Perkins -- Secretary of Labor; allegedly Jewish/adopted at birth; unconfirmed.
11. Sidney Hillman -- presidential adviser.
12. Anna Rosenberg -- longtime labor adviser to FDR, and manpower adviser with the Manpower Consulting Committee of the Army and Navy Munitions Board and the War Manpower Commission.
13. Herbert H. Lehman -- Governor of New York, 1933-1942, Director of U.S. Office of Foreign Relief and Rehabilitation Operations, Department of State, 1942-1943; Director-General of UNRRA, 1944 - 1946, pal of FDR.
14. Herbert Feis -- U.S. State Department official, economist, and an adviser on international economic affairs.
15. R. S. Hecht -- financial adviser to FDR.
16. Nathan Margold -- Department of the Interior Solicitor, legal adviser.
17. Jesse I. Straus -- adviser to FDR.
18. H. J. Laski -- "unofficial foreign adviser" to FDR.
19. E. W. Goldenweiser -- Federal Reserve Director.
20. Charles E. Wyzanski -- U.S. Labor department legal adviser.
21. Samuel Untermyer -- lawyer, "unofficial public ownership adviser" to FDR.
22. Jacob Viner -- Tax expert at the U.S. Treasury Department, assistant to the Treasury Secretary.
23. Edward Filene -- businessman, philanthropist, unofficial presidential adviser.
24. David Dubinsky -- Labor leader, president of International Ladies Garment Workers Union.
25. William C. Bullitt -- part-Jewish, ambassador to USSR [is claimed to be Jonathan Horwitz's grandson; unconfirmed].
26. Mordecai Ezekiel -- Agriculture Department economist.
27. Abe Fortas -- Assistant director of Securities and Exchange Commission, Department of the Interior Undersecretary.
28. Isador Lubin -- Commissioner of Labor Statistics, unofficial labor economist to FDR.
29. Harry Dexter White [Weiss] -- Assistant Secretary of the Treasury; a key founder of the International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank; adviser, close pal of Henry Morgenthau. Co-wrote the Morgenthau Plan.
30. Alexander Holtzoff -- Special assistant, U.S. Attorney General's Office until 1945; [presumed to be Jewish; unconfirmed].
31. David Weintraub -- official in the Office of Foreign Relief and Rehabilitation Operations; helped create the United Nations; Secretary, Committee on Supplies, 1944-1946.
32. Nathan Gregory Silvermaster -- Agriculture Department official and head of the Near East Division of the Board of Economic Warfare; helped create the United Nations.
33. Harold Glasser -- Treasury Department director of the division of monetary research. Treasury spokesman on the affairs of United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration.
34. Irving Kaplan -- U.S. Treasury Department official, pal of David Weintraub.
35. Solomon Adler -- Treasury Department representative in China during World War II.
36. Benjamin Cardozo -- U.S. Supreme Court Justice.
37. Leo Wolman -- chairman of the National Recovery Administration's Labor advisory Board; labor economist.
38. Rose Schneiderman -- labor organizer; on the advisory board of the National Recovery Administration.
39. Jerome Frank -- general counsel to the Agricultural Adjustment Administration, Justice, U.S. Court of Appeals, 1941-57.
40. Gerard Swope -- key player in the creation of the N.R.A. [National Recovery Administration]
41. Herbert Bayard Swope -- brother of Gerard
42. Lucien Koch -- consumer division, N.R.A. [apparently-Jewish]
43. J. David Stern -- Federal Reserve Board, appointed by FDR
44. Nathan Straus -- housing advisor
45. Charles Michaelson -- Democratic [DNC] publicity man
46. Lawrence Steinhardt -- ambassador to Soviet Union
47. Harry Guggenheim -- heir to Guggenheim fortune, advisor on aviation
48. Arthur Garfield Hays -- adviser on civil liberties
49. David Lasser -- head of Worker's Alliance, labor activist
50. Max Zaritsky -- labor adviser
51. James Warburg -- millionaire, early backer of New Deal before backing out
52. Louis Kirstein -- associate of E. Filene
53. Charles Wyzanski, Jr. -- counsel, Dept. of Labor
54. Charles Taussig -- early New Deal adviser
55. Jacob Baker -- assistant to W.P.A. head Harry Hopkins; assistant head of W.P.A. [Works Progress Admin.]
56. Louis H. Bean -- Dept. of Agriculture official
57. Abraham Fox -- research director, Tariff Commission
58. Benedict Wolf -- National Labor Relations Board [NLRB]
59. William Leiserson -- NLRB
60. David J. Saposs -- NLRB
61. A. H. Meyers -- NLRB [New England division]
62. L. H. Seltzer -- head economist at the Treasury Dept.
63. Edward Berman -- Dept. of Labor official
64. Jacob Perlman -- Dept. of Labor official
65. Morris L. Jacobson -- chief statistician of the Government Research Project
66. Jack Levin -- assistant general manager, Rural Electrification Authority
67. Harold Loeb -- economic consultant, N.R.P.
68. William Seagle -- council, Petroleum Labor Policy Board
69. Herman A. Gray -- policy committee, National Housing Conference
70. Alexander Sachs -- rep. of Lehman Bros., early New Deal consultant
71. Paul Mazur -- rep. of Lehman Bros., early consultant for New Deal
72. Henry Alsberg --
73. Lincoln Rothschild -- New Deal art administrator
#59. To: aristeidesJethro Tull (#57)
#60. To: Jethro Tull (#58)
#61. To: Jethro Tull, Aristedes (#58)
#62. To: Cynicom (#61)
#63. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
I've already said too much.
#64. To: Jethro Tull (#62)
Can you please enlighten me as to why anyone with anyone with any degree of political acumen would try and raise the ghost of FDR???Can you please enlighten me as to why anyone with anyone with any degree of political acumen would try and raise the ghost of FDR???
#65. To: Cynicom (#64)
www.nytimes.com/books/first/r/rosen-confederates.html
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#66. To: robin (#65)
#67. To: Cynicom (#66)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#68. To: robin (#67)
#69. To: Cynicom (#68)
Benjamin later ran so as to not be tried by the Yankees. He lived out his life in England.
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#70. To: robin (#69)
#71. To: robin (#69)
#72. To: Jethro Tull (#58)
#73. To: aristeides, cynicom, all (#72)
But I can't say I've ever seen it supported in a reliable source.
#74. To: Jethro Tull (#73)
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#75. To: aristeides (#74)
#76. To: Jethro Tull (#75)
#77. To: aristeides, Jethro Tull (#72)
#78. To: aristeides (#76)
#79. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#3)
To conclude, McCain is evil, Hillary is the lesser evil and Obama is a small, possibly VERY small retreat from the current evil. And these 3 are all we got to work with at this time.
#80. To: robin (#10)
Yes, compare Wolf and Soros to the worst of what McCain and Hillary have supporting them.
#81. To: aristeides (#17)
Soros is certainly no neocon. As his piece On Israel, America and Aipac from a year ago makes clear, he considers himself a nonpractising Jew who wants to see Israel survive but who very much dislikes the way AIPAC has shut down discussion on Israel and Palestine.
#82. To: Jethro Tull (#78)
Why should I bother when anything I post that doesn't fit your leftist agenda is criticized?
#83. To: Cynicom (#77)
And Hitler seems to have a special niche in your mind for some reason, never mention his idol Stalin. I suspect it is other than an intellectual interest.
#84. To: iconoclast (#81)
Soros is very concerned about rising worldwide anti-semitism.
#85. To: aristeides (#82)
#86. To: Jethro Tull (#85)
Anything you disagree with seems to get your pro-Nazi treatment.
#87. To: aristeides (#84)
Socialist Soros to build competing organization to AIPAC
#88. To: aristeides (#86)
#89. To: Jethro Tull (#88)
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