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Title: Study finds immigrants commit less California crime
Source: Rueters
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080226/us_nm/usa_immigration_crime_dc
Published: Feb 26, 2008
Author: Duncan Martell
Post Date: 2008-02-26 22:51:53 by richard9151
Keywords: None
Views: 882
Comments: 84

Tue Feb 26, 2:39 AM ET

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Immigrants are far less likely than the average U.S.-born citizen to commit crime in California, the most populous state in the United States, according to a report issued late on Monday.

People born outside the United States make up about 35 percent of California's adult population but account for about 17 percent of the adult prison population, the report by the Public Policy Institute of California showed.

According to the report's authors the findings suggest that long-standing fears of immigration as a threat to public safety are unjustified. The report also noted that U.S.-born adult men are incarcerated at a rate more than 2 1/2 times greater than that of foreign-born men.

"Our research indicates that limiting immigration, requiring higher educational levels to obtain visas, or spending more money to increase penalties against criminal immigrants will have little impact on public safety," said Kristin Butcher, co-author of the report and associate professor of economics at Wellesley College.

The study did not differentiate between documented immigrants and illegal immigrants.

The question of what to do about the millions of undocumented workers living in the United States has been one of the major issues in the U.S. presidential election. Mexico, which accounts for a high proportion of illegal immigrants in California, was deeply disappointed at the U.S. Congress' failure to pass President George W. Bush's overhaul of immigration laws last year.

When Butcher and her co-author, Anne Morrison Piehl, associate professor of economics at Rutgers University, considered all those committed to institutions including prison, jails, halfway houses and the like, they found an even greater disparity.

Among men 18 to 40, the population most likely to be in institutions because of criminal activity, the report found that in California, U.S.-born men were institutionalized 10 times more often than foreign-born men (4.2 percent vs. 0.42 percent).

Among other findings in the report, non-citizen men from Mexico 18 to 40 -- a group disproportionately likely to have entered the United States illegally -- are more than eight times less likely than U.S.-born men in the same age group to be in a correctional institution (0.48 percent vs. 4.2 percent).

"From a public safety standpoint, there would be little reason to further limit immigration, to favor entry by high-skilled immigrants, or to increase penalties against criminal immigrants," the report said.

(Reporting by Duncan Martell; Editing by Adam Tanner and Bill Trott)

What's the big surprise? Immigrants, and particularly illegal immigrants, are afraid of the police.

And I suppose that I need to note here that I do not find this to be a reason to permit more immigration. I just get tired of the foolishness of those who parrot what the media tells them.

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#1. To: richard9151 (#0)

People born outside the United States make up about 35 percent of California's adult population but account for about 17 percent of the adult prison population,

So, according to your article, 50% of CAs foreign born population is in prison. Nice stat, Dick......

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-26   23:01:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

50% of CAs foreign born population is in prison

Are you tired?

nobody  posted on  2008-02-26   23:05:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: nobody (#3)

People born outside the United States make up about 35 percent of California's adult population, the report by the Public Policy Institute of California showed.

Maybe I am tired.

Please explain;

35% of California's adult population was born outside the United States but account for about 17 percent of the adult prison population.

Ergo, app. 50% of California's adult population who was born outside the United States is in prison (17%)

Please tell me where I'm wrong.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-26   23:29:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jethro Tull (#12)

Please tell me where I'm wrong.

Make up two numbers, one for the number of people in california, and another for the number of prisoners. Then plug those two numbers in, and then get back to me with the results.

nobody  posted on  2008-02-26   23:36:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: nobody (#18) (Edited)

Make up two numbers, one for the number of people in california, and another for the number of prisoners. Then plug those two numbers in, and then get back to me with the results.

LOL!! Good luck! Buena Suerte!

richard9151  posted on  2008-02-27   0:20:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: richard9151 (#45)

The assumption that imprisonment rate reflects crime rate is a clever troll with the usual elite racialist follow-though.

Illegals would probably be far more likely to post bail and then skip.

nobody  posted on  2008-02-27   0:26:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: nobody (#50)

Illegals would probably be far more likely to post bail and then skip.

You are assuming that the illegals have pocketful of cash to do so, right? Or that bondsmen are stupid and have not figured that kind of stuff out, right?

None of the figures matter cause the story is done to serve a purpose, and until you find out what that is, what is the difference?

richard9151  posted on  2008-02-27   0:39:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: richard9151 (#58)

Illegals would probably be far more likely to post bail and then skip.

Bail's probably paid by some "charity" group. There is organization and a social network, no doubt about it.

nobody  posted on  2008-02-27   0:41:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: nobody (#60)

There is organization and a social network, no doubt about it.

No, there isn't. Jethro has tried to make this point, esp. about the marches and such that go on in Los Angelas, and then he posted a comprehensive story about it, without reading it first!

Turns out the organization behind the illegals in California is a Jewish front group which is doing all of the funding and organizing for such 'events.'

Illegals are interested in working and staying out of sight; not in networking.

richard9151  posted on  2008-02-27   0:49:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: richard9151 (#66)

Illegals are interested in working and staying out of sight; not in networking.

That would explain why 500,000 illegals mustered under the Mexican flag in LA, and other cities, under the glare of the national media.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-27   0:53:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#73. To: Jethro Tull (#67)

That would explain why 500,000 illegals mustered under the Mexican flag in LA, and other cities, under the glare of the national media.

My. The INS must have had a field day. Wow! How many did they arrest and deport on that day? Cause it was planned long in advance and published in the newspapers and on the TV and the radio....

So, were the adds saying; 50,000 Illegals Will Be Marching In Los Angelas TOMORROW/NEXT WEEK/SATURDAY or something like that?

Is that how it went, Jethro?

Oh, no, wait..... I remember now. This was in that story YOU posted! RIGHT!!! There were reported to be 500,000 people marching, so, using your abstract logic, you ASSUMED that ALL of the marchers would be illegals...... right. Makes perfect sense. Cause we know all of 'them' would want to be out there in public where the cops/INS could not find them.....

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