4um: Study finds immigrants commit less California crime

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Immigrants are far less likely than the average U.S.-born citizen to commit crime in California, the most populous state in the United States, according to a report issued late on Monday.

People born outside the United States make up about 35 percent of California's adult population but account for about 17 percent of the adult prison population, the report by the Public Policy Institute of California showed.

According to the report's authors the findings suggest that long-standing fears of immigration as a threat to public safety are unjustified. The report also noted that U.S.-born adult men are incarcerated at a rate more than 2 1/2 times greater than that of foreign-born men.

"Our research indicates that limiting immigration, requiring higher educational levels to obtain visas, or spending more money to increase penalties against criminal immigrants will have little impact on public safety," said Kristin Butcher, co-author of the report and associate professor of economics at Wellesley College.

The study did not differentiate between documented immigrants and illegal immigrants.

The question of what to do about the millions of undocumented workers living in the United States has been one of the major issues in the U.S. presidential election. Mexico, which accounts for a high proportion of illegal immigrants in California, was deeply disappointed at the U.S. Congress' failure to pass President George W. Bush's overhaul of immigration laws last year.

When Butcher and her co-author, Anne Morrison Piehl, associate professor of economics at Rutgers University, considered all those committed to institutions including prison, jails, halfway houses and the like, they found an even greater disparity.

Among men 18 to 40, the population most likely to be in institutions because of criminal activity, the report found that in California, U.S.-born men were institutionalized 10 times more often than foreign-born men (4.2 percent vs. 0.42 percent).

Among other findings in the report, non-citizen men from Mexico 18 to 40 -- a group disproportionately likely to have entered the United States illegally -- are more than eight times less likely than U.S.-born men in the same age group to be in a correctional institution (0.48 percent vs. 4.2 percent).

"From a public safety standpoint, there would be little reason to further limit immigration, to favor entry by high-skilled immigrants, or to increase penalties against criminal immigrants," the report said.

What's the big surprise? Immigrants, and particularly illegal immigrants, are afraid of the police.

And I suppose that I need to note here that I do not find this to be a reason to permit more immigration. I just get tired of the foolishness of those who parrot what the media tells them.

Oh, so you're really not doing it on purpose then. Uh thanks for clearing that up without a doubt. Like I said, the stats you're hyping left-handedly are worthless.

Of course not.... after all, they are here 'legally' and only working for about 40% less than the white engineers they replaced..........

Why would anyone be smart enough to figure that out?! Or care if they did figure it out! After all, THEY are LEGAL!!

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

The assumption that imprisonment rate reflects crime rate is a clever troll with the usual elite racialist follow-though.

Ok, now that we have that cleared up let's look at the actual numbers. Well give or take. I have 2003 sensus and 2005 prison numbers.

CA population is roughly 26 million. 35% is 9,100,000.
the prison population is 168,000 and 17% of that is 28,560.

LOL! I doubt it not, BUT that is not what is at stake. You do not have Jethro's ability for abstract thinking....

Remember, Jethro is an ex-cop, and as such, any math past cop math, i.e., past a baker's dozen donuts, is wasted math, so it does not apply in these.... ummmm, special cases.

What you is lacking in is an ability to abstract your way to seeing things HIS way!!

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

There is some nasty stuff going around. Went through our family a few weeks back. Once in a while I get sick, rarely does it knock me down. This did, fever and all.

So, three strikes hurts criminals who have been in the state longer, while many immigrants haven't had enough time to go through the system three times yet.

No wonder they're falsely suggesting incarceration rate reflects the rate of criminality, then -- it allows them to make an elitist point.

They know very well where they are, and what they are doing. The program is was and will be to bring them here to work, cheaply. And if you are following any of the subprime meltdown info, well, get ready for amanisty, cause that is what stories like this are for; to prime the public out of the phobias that have been planted about ILLEGAL immigrants.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

You are assuming that the illegals have pocketful of cash to do so, right? Or that bondsmen are stupid and have not figured that kind of stuff out, right?

None of the figures matter cause the story is done to serve a purpose, and until you find out what that is, what is the difference?

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

Another thing .... illegals are more likely to be a crime victim to other immigrants, mostly to other illegals, and yet they are less likely to report a crime.

Bail's probably paid by some "charity" group. There is organization and a social network, no doubt about it.

And nobody has your keen ability to flee America, one step ahead of a tax scheme prosecution, only to then become an expert on the ills of America. If you were a man, you'd try some of the preposterous 'patriot' schemes you suggest others try. But perhaps you did and they didn't work too well? That's this cop's best guess.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

That is a valid point, and there have been studies done about it. More very vicious crimes are committed in that manner, and, are never reported. More than a few deaths as well.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

Crime wave: as an illegal-alien crime wave overtakes America, government officials do nothing because they either support open borders or fear to anger the Hispanic community.(IMMIGRATION)

On June 5, nine-year-old Jordin Paulder, a towheaded boy with "chubby cheeks," as the newspapers described him, was playing in the parking lot of the Chastain Apartments in Sandy Springs, Georgia, part of metro Atlanta. Jordin saw a car go by and called out to the occupants. The car had a bum tire, the lad shouted. The car stopped, and Santos Benigno Cabrera Borjas emerged, wielding a hatchet. He twice smashed Jordin in the face between the nose and forehead. The second blow buried the hatchet, which paramedics feared removing en route to the hospital. Jordin died. When police cornered Borjas as paramedics worked on Jordin, the ax-murderer tossed a rimmed tire at an officer, breaking his arm. Borjas rushed the cop, who shot him dead.

In New York on November 1, actress Adrienne Shelly died in her apartment in New York City. Shelly was found hanged by a bedsheet on a shower curtain rod, an apparent suicide. But the 40-year-old wife and mother didn't hang herself. Diego Pillco, who was renovating an apartment in Shelly's building, did the deed. He punched the woman and knocked her out when she complained about the noise. Fearing she was dead, he staged the elaborate ruse.

Borjas and Pillco have something in common. They are illegal aliens, from Honduras and Ecuador, just two of the hundreds of thousands brutalizing Americans in a crime wave of unfathomable proportions. They are robbing Americans. They are raping Americans. They are murdering Americans.

The crime data show that illegal aliens have unleashed a reign of terror that would have been considered an act of war 75 years ago. Consider these alarming facts: in 2003, according to the Government Accountability Office, illegal aliens composed 27 percent of the federal prison population. The majority of these, 63 percent, were Mexicans. Some 267,000 illegal aliens were jailed in federal, state, and local facilities that year. And, immigration writer Ed Rubenstein observed, while illegal aliens were an estimated 7.2 percent of the population in 2003, 12.9 percent of them were in jail or prison. In Los Angeles in 2004, 95 percent of the outstanding warrants for murder named illegal aliens.

Yet the federal government, entrusted with the responsibility to defend our country from invasion, does next to nothing. The Bush administration gibbles and gabbles about secure borders while illegal aliens merrily inflict their mayhem. Granted, in June, the federal government conducted "Operation Return to Sender," a nationwide sweep that netted 2,100 illegals (.018 percent of them, assuming 12 million total), including 367 gang bangers nationwide and three-dozen child molesters roaming free in Orange County, California. And in White Plains, New York, in December, the feds arrested six illegal-alien sex offenders, some of whom were registered, on "routine visits" to the probation office. Illegal aliens are registered and make "routine visits" to the probation office? Clearly, the rest have nothing to fear. The reason? A lethal combination of federal inertia, partly due to the president's adamant refusal to deal with the problem, and state, local, and municipal "sanctuary policies" aimed at placating the Hispanic communities.

The Data

Paulder and Shelly are among the thousands of Americans who would be alive if the authorities stopped illegal immigration. Government officials frankly confess their lassitude. Federal bureaucrats can't even keep track of their own immigrant files, and lost some 110,000 of them, the Associated Press reported in November. Of course, 30,000 citizenship applications that lacked documentation sailed through the system anyway.

Bad as that is, the crime data on illegal aliens reveal what the federal government's incompetence means. In April 2005, the GAO studied the 55,322 illegal aliens in federal prisons during 2003. The frightening facts? Those 55,322 illegal aliens were arrested 459,614 times, or eight times each. They committed some 700,000 crimes, 13 each. Thirty-six percent of them were arrested at least five times. Moreover, as Rubenstein notes, the number of illegal aliens locked in federal, state and local jails grew from 9,000 illegal aliens in 1980 to 267,000 in 2003.

Even worse, Deborah Schurman Kauflin, who heads the Violent Crimes Institute, which studied illegal aliens and crime, discovered that a disproportionate share of illegal aliens are dangerous sex fiends.

At her website, Kauflin presents her analysis of 1,500 illegal-alien cases covering nearly eight years. Most of the criminals were gathered in states with the highest number of illegals: California, Texas, Arizona, New Jersey, New York, and Florida. She uncovered a tsunami of drunk driving, robbery, child molestation, rape, and murder, including serial murders and brutal gang rapes.

Frighteningly, she reported, sex offenders represent 2 percent of illegal aliens. Assuming a population of 12 million illegals, some 240,000 illegal-alien sex criminals are now in the United States. That, in turn, "translates to 93 sex offenders and 12 serial sex offenders coming across U.S. borders illegally per day." This might be one reason Operation Return to Sender targeted illegal- alien sex criminals, and why the feds have arrested 100 sex fiends in White Plains since 2003. At any rate, Kauflin's 1,500 offenders victimized 5,999 people, about four victims each. Of those studied, 525, or 35 percent, were child molestations, 358, or 24 percent, were rapes, and 617, or 41 percent, were sexual homicides and serial murders. Illegal aliens, she calculated, victimized nearly 1 million people over the 88 months of crime data she studied.

The data are even more detailed, but you get the picture. In another article, Kauflin recounts the grisly, appalling crimes illegal aliens committed. An illegal immigrant named Maximiliano Esparza "raped and sodomized two nuns and used their rosary beads to control them during the attack. The Sisters were beaten, raped, sodomized, and finally, Esparza used her own rosary beads to strangle Sister Helen Lynn Chaska to death." Esparza, who pickled his liver at a strip joint before the sacrilegious attack, was a career criminal deported once before. The Border Patrol nabbed him again, but released him. Meanwhile, Kauflin observed, television drama treats us to illegal aliens attacked by Americans.

These illegal-alien sex criminals are mostly Mexican. As those concerned about what immigrants mean for American culture have observed, foreigners bring their culture and customs with them. One of those beliefs, Kauflin reports, is the Mexican "concept of rapto," meaning the abduction of a woman or girl to rape her. In 2002, the Washington Post published a long piece backing Kauflin's opinion that rapto is "socially acceptable" in Mexico. The piece also backed her bold charge of misogyny among Mexican men.

One Oaxacan legislator called rapto "romantic," which is no surprise in a country where stealing cattle, the Post reported, is more serious than rape.

"Many [Mexican] states," the paper revealed, "require that if a 12-year-old girl wants to accuse an adult man of statutory rape, she must first prove she is 'chaste and pure.'" Nineteen states simply drop statutory rape charges "if the rapist agrees to marry his victim." Outraged women's and human rights groups were trying to change Mexican law when the Post's article appeared, but whatever their success in Mexico, rapto has arrived in America. Two of the sex fiends in White Plains raped 14-year-old girls, and immigrant attacks on women and girls, including sadistic gang rapes, are rising.

One example occurred on December 19, 2002 in New York, when Victor Cruz, Armando Juvenal, Jose Hernandez, and Carlos Rodriguez, all illegal aliens, joined as many as five other men in raping a 42-year-old woman for three hours near Shea Stadium. Three of the four illegals were violent criminals but were not deported. In a letter to the court, the victim wrote that the rapists attacked her like "a pack of wild wolves." Similar examples of beastly gang rapes, some involving more than a dozen men, are legion.

While many illegal-alien criminals are run-of-the-mill murderers and rapists, if such a creature exists, some of them are serial rapists and killers. The annals of illegal-alien crime, as THE NEW AMERICAN reported in its August 7, 2006 issue, include the recently executed "Railroad Killer," Angel Maturino Resendiz. Between 1986 and 1999, he butchered at least 15 people across six states, eight in Texas and others in Kentucky and Georgia. He murdered a pastor and his wife with a sledgehammer in 1999, pulverizing the woman's face before he raped her.

Sanctuary

The bloody thread running through Kauflin's reports and other data is that many illegal aliens are caught for minor crimes and released ... but not deported. As the Los Angeles Times reported about Operation Return to Sender, "most of those arrested in the nationwide sweep ... served time in county jails.... But instead of being deported, they were released." If deported, illegals often return to the United States. "Nearly 63% [of the criminals Kauflin studied] had been deported on another offense prior to the sex crime. There was an average of 3 years of committing crimes such as DUI, assaults, or drug related offenses prior to being apprehended for a sexual offense," meaning their crimes escalated each time they were caught. The crimes Kauflin documents are so horrendous one wonders how the government erred and failed to deport the criminal illegals.

Most Americans would be shocked, or perhaps they wouldn't, to learn that federal, state, and local governments, far from making mistakes, instead refuse to deport illegal aliens. Some federal immigration officials candidly admit they are not interested in "administrative" cases, meaning those merely involving illegal immigration. The feds are interested in "other crimes." But at the state level, where such "other crimes" are committed, a different worm is eating the apple of American sovereignty. Heather McDonald, writing in City Journal, a publication of the Manhattan Institute, explains it in one word: sanctuary.

Many cities such as Los Angeles and New York refuse to notify federal authorities when local police apprehend criminals they know are illegal aliens. And generally, it appears, it isn't police who suggest and approve the policies. It's politicians.

In Los Angeles, McDonald wrote, police can't jail dangerous gang members, despite their violent criminal records and felonious re-entry into the country, because they would violate the police department's rule against enforcing immigration laws. That rule "mirrors bans in immigrant-saturated cities ... from New York and Chicago to San Diego, Austin, and Houston. These 'sanctuary policies' generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities."

The cops, McDonald reported, are at wits' end: "We can't even talk about it," a "frustrated LAPD captain" told McDonald. "People are afraid of a backlash from Hispanics." Sighed another, "I would get a firestorm of criticism if I talked about [enforcing the immigration law against illegals]."

The consequences of this dereliction of duty are obvious, as Kauflin's report shows, but McDonald added even more examples of what not deporting illegal aliens means for law-abiding Americans. In 2004, "in Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens." In 1995, a study showed that a gang in southern California boasted 20,000 members, 60 percent of whom were illegal aliens.

Unsurprisingly, public officials defend these sanctuary policies because they believe (or say they do) that illegal-alien victims who do not fear deportation will help police, and for the insane reason that "they encourage illegals to take advantage of city services like health care and education (to whose maintenance few illegals have contributed a single tax dollar, of course)." Sanctuary may encourage more illegal aliens to jump on the welfare dole, but it hasn't curbed the crime wave. As McDonald wrote, "no one has ever suggested not enforcing drug laws, say, for fear of intimidating drug- using crime victims." In truth, McDonald reported, sheer numbers energize sanctuary policies. Politicians are afraid of the "backlash" from immigrant groups and their vociferous supporters.

Chillingly, a top presidential contender for 2008, Rudolf Giuliani, created a sanctuary policy and sued the federal government "all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court" over a federal law, passed in 1996, requiring cities to cooperate with federal immigration authorities. In a sequence of events so eerie it sounds fictive, six days before terrorist illegal immigrants flattened the twin towers on 9/11 and set the Pentagon ablaze, Giuliani's "handpicked charter-revision committee ruled that New York could still require that its employees keep immigration information confidential to preserve trust between immigrants and government." Pandering to illegal immigrants and their supporters, Giuliani said the federal law was a tool to "terrorize people."

Despite 9/11 and losing in court, McDonald wrote, "New York conveniently forgot the 1996 federal ban" until the flagitious gang rape at Shea Stadium. Though three of the illegal immigrants in that case had lengthy rap sheets for violent crimes, the city "never notified the INS."

What Will Americans Do?

This compendium of mayhem and murder by illegal aliens does not count the carnage on the nation's highways inflicted by drunk-driving illegal aliens. These stories are too numerous to recount here, but a quick Google search will divulge countless deaths and maimings by illegal aliens hurtling down the highways on a tankful of gas and snootful of booze. As with their other categories of crime, cases abound where illegal aliens have been caught driving drunk, then released to kill.

A particularly poignant example hit the newspapers the day after Thanksgiving. For the families of Brian Mathews, 21, of Columbia, Maryland, and Jennifer Bower, 24, of Montgomery Village, it was truly Black Friday. Eduardo Raul Morales-Soriano, 25, an illegal Mexican, killed the pair on Thanksgiving night, prosecutors allege, when he slammed his Nissan Sentra into Bower's Toyota Corolla at a red light. Mathews and Bower were on their second date.

Morales-Soriano was polluted, police allege, with four times the legal limit of alcohol. Before that fatal day, the Baltimore Sun disclosed, police collared him three times, the most significant being a wreck in February. Police allege he reeked of alcohol. Although he refused a Breathalyzer test, his license was not suspended, as the law requires. The charges were dropped. In July, the paper reported, police nailed him for driving the wrong way on a one-way street, speeding and negligent driving. The court exonerated him. In September, before the wreck that killed Mathews and Bower, he was convicted of driving on unsafe tires. For the third time, he was not deported.

Brian Mathews, a lance corporal in the Marine Corps who survived duty in Iraq, never knew what hit him. Neither did Jordin Paulder or Adrienne Shelly, nor many others who died at the hands of illegal aliens. Their demises are tragic not just for what their families and communities lost, but for what they reveal about American officialdom, from the anti-American elites in Washington to the vacillating, tremulous elites in cities and counties. They will not act. They fear an "immigrant backlash?'

Until they fear an American backlash, a backlash from the Paulders and Shellys and other victims, illegal aliens will continue to rob, rape, and kill.

R. Cort Kirkwood is managing editor of the Daily News-Record in Harrisonburg, Virginia.

No, there isn't. Jethro has tried to make this point, esp. about the marches and such that go on in Los Angelas, and then he posted a comprehensive story about it, without reading it first!

Turns out the organization behind the illegals in California is a Jewish front group which is doing all of the funding and organizing for such 'events.'

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

That would explain why 500,000 illegals mustered under the Mexican flag in LA, and other cities, under the glare of the national media.

Never forget - most people exceeding the posted speed limits are identified by the government as being white, yet people the government calls "black" get pulled over more often.

You are so.... tiresome, Jethro. I have explained many times why I left, and have no intention of doing so again for someone like you.

As to recommending anything, I simply do not, and, people have asked. I always refuse. What I have done is not something that you study and decide on; it is a lifestyle chose. Period, and not something that you would have a clue about.

But you go ahead and show me ONE THING that I have recommended that people try, other than growing their own food and leaving the cities. And if you can not, then shut-up about it.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

Illegal this, illegal that. Darn, if we'd just legalize the illegals and exterminate the nasty, non-native European-Americans that would stop all the carping from the civil rights organizations and erase all the "backlashing". But, who would be responsible for oppressing the remaining minorities??

"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck

Same thing with coke and caviar. Official government "white" designees are getting the lion share, but the tricky bastards hide themselves really effectively on larger estates, rather than running down to the projects. This is if they aren't overtly anti-semitic, of course.

My. The INS must have had a field day. Wow! How many did they arrest and deport on that day? Cause it was planned long in advance and published in the newspapers and on the TV and the radio....

So, were the adds saying; 50,000 Illegals Will Be Marching In Los Angelas TOMORROW/NEXT WEEK/SATURDAY or something like that?

Oh, no, wait..... I remember now. This was in that story YOU posted! RIGHT!!! There were reported to be 500,000 people marching, so, using your abstract logic, you ASSUMED that ALL of the marchers would be illegals...... right. Makes perfect sense. Cause we know all of 'them' would want to be out there in public where the cops/INS could not find them.....

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

Not to worry. Nature abhors a vacumn, and someone, probably named Cheney or Bush or Garcia would gladly step up and fill the void.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

It's harder to get/stay rich and be an overt "anti-semite" - a BS phrase used basically for bogus territorial association and more. Perhaps you know some exceptions, but that makes my point. It's "bad P-R" as they say.

"Anti-semitic" is also a cute way of avoiding disambiguation of judaism and its various flavors, with judiac ancestry and with zionism, with all the convenience of saying none of them and thus not really dragging any of them into the fray.

It is for these reasons that to utter the phrase "anti-semite" with any seriousness is to seriously use the phraseology of utter cowards and scoundrels and their admirers.

I agree. The point I was making was about the so-called semites who hide in plain sight by claiming to be something else, such as Baptist.

There have been a number of politicals, for instance, over the last ten years or so, who have 'discovered' their Jewish roots...... riiiiggghhttt. As if they had no clue.

There is even a book that the Rabbis have that discloses the Maranaros (hidden Jews) amoung the populace, and which is never ever discussed.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

Well, you got to admit, it sure makes hiding amoung them, for a white man, a chore. Or for a black man. Or... well, you get the point.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

I am curious Jethro, after watching your performance in this thread, why anyone would chose to explain ANYTHING to you?

Anyone else who read the statement you just posted would understand it without explanation.... but more is neccessary to you?! Don't think so, but please, ask farmfriend or nobody to explain it to you.

And pay close attention to the word.... are you ready, Jethro? the word... exportation. As in food, going to México. From the garbage factory farms. In the US.

But as everyone who has watched your performance knows, explanations have to get past your abstract ability to not see shit.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

Please explain why you consider the illegal invasion of America by Mexicans "a return to their ancestral land."

Also, why would anyone take the word of a fleeing felon such as yourself seriously?

You should learn to curb your mouth when speaking to your betters, Jethro, esp as you add very little to this 4um. I have refrained from putting you on bozo, but you are beginning to step over the line when you begin to accuse people of such things, and if such is permitted in the 4um, then I am losing my respect for the management here as well.

I know that to such as you there are no limits, but perhaps stupidity is self- limiting. What say you, christine?

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.