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Title: Complete Meltdown in Obama's Texas Campaign
Source: Democratic Underground
URL Source: [None]
Published: Feb 29, 2008
Author: "Bucky"
Post Date: 2008-02-29 11:03:11 by ghostdogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 880
Comments: 67

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#1. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

I wonder why he is still behind in Ohio? Is the racism of that state just WAY worse than that of Texas?

I have almost always come away from conversations with friends/relatives from Midwest and Northeastern states thinking that Texans and Southerners are, in some ways, more "tolerant" than those from the "Union" who have historically derided us as "bigots."

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-02-29   11:12:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Sam Houston (#1)

Is the racism of that state just WAY worse than that of Texas?

Being unwilling to vote for Obama for any reason is now racism?

Get thine head out of thine Politically Correct universe where one is expected to hand over anything to a person with a higher melanin content than their neighbor just due to skin color.

If anyone is practicing racism....its those types.

mirage  posted on  2008-02-29   12:59:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mirage (#18)

Being unwilling to vote for Obama for any reason is now racism?

No, but favoring Hillary Clinton over ANY candidate of ANY race, creed, color or national origin at this point is what leads me to this hypothesis.

Her candidacy has basically imploded. There is no reason to vote FOR her anymore. But - and I could be wrong - there may be a view among some Ohioans that at least she is "one of us."

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-02-29   15:39:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Sam Houston (#21)

Her candidacy has basically imploded. There is no reason to vote FOR her anymore. But - and I could be wrong - there may be a view among some Ohioans that at least she is "one of us."

Let me throw out some reasons why that is an erroneous assumption. Please excuse the stream-of-consciousness.

With Hillary, you actually have some idea as to what you are going to get. She has articulated her plans in enough detail so that voters have at least some idea as to what they will get, good and hard though it may be.

Obama is a peddler of "hope and change" with very little in terms of specifics as to what he stands for, what he will do, and how he will go about it.

When I go into the booth to cast my vote, I'll take the candidate that tells me up-front how badly they are going to screw me over a candidate who offers mushy rhetoric with nothing behind it any day of the week.

There is also the "pick the Devil you know" attitude that is always present but everyone forgets about.

So, the main reason to vote FOR Hillary is simply because she has articulated her plans up-front. Neither Obama nor McCain have really done that. Its a vote AGAINST mushiness.

Whether or not her campaign is imploding is not relevant. Many voters are simply so cynical these days that they prefer knowing how badly they are going to be screwed up-front as opposed to wondering how badly someone is going to rob and rape them later.

Now, add to that the "I'm tired of being called a racist" people out there. The Obama campaign is running on a veiled "Vote for me or you're a racist" theme. That is a big turnoff to a lot of people. They won't vote for race-baiters.

Anyhow, just some thoughts on this.

mirage  posted on  2008-02-29   16:05:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#34. To: mirage (#28)

So, the main reason to vote FOR Hillary is simply because she has articulated her plans up-front. Neither Obama nor McCain have really done that. Its a vote AGAINST mushiness.

McCain was pretty clear about his plan to keep US troops in the Middle East for the next 100 years.

I happen to think that mushiness can work to our advantage. Because Obama is an empty suit, four years in office might be as harmless as his campaign. He'll talk about "hope and change" without actually DOING anything. Which is a good thing, compared to someone like Hillary, who has the details of her plan to continue destroying this country all ironed out.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-02-29 16:57:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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