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Dead Constitution See other Dead Constitution Articles Title: COLUMN: Health care system already socialized Poster Comment: Workers that have employer-contributed health insurance get a sugar-sweet deal because all the other shmoes in the world -- the fast-food workers, students, bartenders and generally everyone who doesn't get health insurance from their job -- are paying for all of that corporate health care in the form of higher personal taxes. When I hear people debate socialized health care, it gives me a little smile. Because guess what? We already have socialized health care in the U.S.A. The poverty class gets Medicaid, and most middle-class and upper-class get their version of Medicare -- taxpayer-supported corporate health insurance. Once a worked hits 65, they can retire with Medicare and the new Bush drug package. So who's kidding who here? To the Free Marketeers, either find a way to removethe illegal blood suckers from this nation, and transport us back to 1955, or deal.
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#9. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
We can nationalize everyone's health care, like in Canada and Europe. The big winners here will be working-class and poverty-class citizens. It's true that businesses get to deduct their contributions to employee health plans from their income for tax purposes. But that just means that the taxpayer pays the percentage of those contributions that would otherwise be paid in taxes. The bulk of the expense is still borne by the business. And that's why businesses with heavy health benefit burdens, like the automobile companies, are hurt so much by having to pay this expense, which their foreign competitors do not have to pay because the foreign governments do. So, if health care in this country were totally nationalized, the working class and lower middle class would indeed benefit, but they would not be the only ones. The businesses that have heavy health care expenses would also benefit, significantly.
So, if health care in this country were totally nationalized, the working class and lower middle class would indeed benefit, but they would not be the only ones. The businesses that have heavy health care expenses would also benefit, significantly. I wonder if offshoring/outsourcing would be quite as attractive to corporations if we had a national health care system. Corporations receive other tax incentives to offshore/outsource though. Plus the lobbying efforts; offshoring is a real racket.
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