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Title: Military heat ray gun zaps 60 Minutes reporter
Source: Raw Story
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Milit ... heat_ray_gun_zaps_60_0229.html
Published: Feb 29, 2008
Author: David Edwards and Chris Tackett
Post Date: 2008-03-01 06:52:10 by robin
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"You have to feel the ray gun to believe it," says 60 Minutes correspondent David Martin, speaking about a non-lethal weapon the Pentagon has developed, "and there's only one way to do that."

Martin was reportedly "zapped" 17 times for this piece, demonstrating the effects, as well as the possibility that a person could reduce the impact with shields of various materials.

"The gun is really an antenna which shoots out this very high-frequency radio beam that penetrates the skin to a depth of 1/64 of an inch, which is just deep enough to hit the nerves," says Martin. "And it creates this instantaneous sensation of heat which makes anyone who is hit with it try to get out of the way as fast as possible.

"And the second you do get out of the way, the pain goes away," Martin continued. "And the point is that this gun, which has a range of roughly half a mile - the exact range is classified - can make you stop whatever it is you're doing."

It seems that is the intended benefit of this weapon, which Martin says causes the sensation of being scalded with hot water.

He asks, "How many innocent lives have been lost by someone approaching a check-point and not heeding the warning signs that American soldiers were giving them ...? Now you have this gun. If you shoot that ray gun at someone and they keep coming you can safely assume that they have evil intent and have cleared the way to use more lethal force, which would be their rifle."

This video is from CBSNews.com, broadcast February 28, 2008.


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#2. To: robin (#0)

Now you have this gun. If you shoot that ray gun at someone and they keep coming you can safely assume that they have evil intent and have cleared the way to use more lethal force, which would be their rifle."

Only fools think weapons like this will remain on one side only. I expect to hear about cops being tazed by criminals any day now.

RickyJ  posted on  2008-03-01   16:24:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: RickyJ (#2)

I wonder if a lightweight older (larger) satellite dish, covered in shiny foil would reflect it back toward the source?

Critter  posted on  2008-03-01   16:39:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Critter, lodwick (#5)

I wonder if a lightweight older (larger) satellite dish, covered in shiny foil would reflect it back toward the source?

I seem to recall that the weapon was tested in the war zone, and it required a team of armed men stationed around it to protect the vehicle and operator, and once the crowds understood the weapon's capabilities they simply stayed out of sight.

So, it ended up being a bunch of marines standing out in the open (exposed to fire from hidden snipers) with no crowd to control.

In other words, the weapon is an expensive Rube Goldberg with limited utility.

And, instead of using a large dish to reflect the signal back and presenting an attractive target for rifle fire from them, wouldn't it be better to use a rifle to force them to leave the area? The team that's assigned to protect the weapon won't leave to find your sniper hide because the weapon and operator would then be left unprotected. And, if they hide to keep you from getting a shot at them, then the weapon is useless and should have been left in the crate in the first place.

Summary: A man with a heat ray weapon is no match for a sniper who knows his stuff.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-01   17:21:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: HOUNDDAWG (#13)

Summary: A man with a heat ray weapon is no match for a sniper who knows his stuff.

Barrett .416 bump

Lod  posted on  2008-03-01   17:25:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lodwick, Jethro Tull, robin, rowdee, christine (#14)

Barrett .416 bump

Barrett .416
"Hey, Junior, what happened to your ass? It was here just a second ago!"

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-01   17:50:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: HOUNDDAWG. Shooters here (#15)

Yep - that's the one.

Now drop a Leupold Tactical scope on top and you're good to go.

Lod  posted on  2008-03-01   18:21:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lodwick (#16)

Now drop a Leupold Tactical scope on top and you're good to go

Right.

With optics you get what you pay for, and Leupold is the best.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-01   18:53:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: HOUNDDAWG, lodwick (#18)

Now drop a Leupold Tactical scope on top and you're good to go

Right.

With optics you get what you pay for, and Leupold is the best.

I concur. I have a VX-III tactical on my .308. Best scope I ever owned.

I did recently acquire an older Burris Signature. I have it on a 24" varmint AR15 but I haven't had a chance to see how well it performs. It seems like a damned fine piece of glass though. If it works well, I am sending it to Burris custom shop for target knobs and a mil dot reticle.

Critter  posted on  2008-03-01   19:51:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Critter, HOUNDDAWG, shooters (#21)

It's tough to buy 'bad' optics these days.

Most any of them do their job better than do I.

As my Grandfather often commented, "A poor workman, blames his tools."

Lots of truth there, I've come to realize.

Lod  posted on  2008-03-01   21:20:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: lodwick (#30)

"A poor workman, blames his tools."

I would never have believed how much difference good glass can make until I saw it for myself on my varmint AR15. I bought it with the Leupold 4.5 - 14 VX-III on it. I took it to the range late one afternoon, on an overcast, drizzly day and put 10 rounds into a 1 1/2" wide by 1" high oblong circle at 200 meters. It would consistently produce results like that. I felt like if you showed me an eyeball at 200 meters, I could poke it out for you, no problem.

Then I picked up my .308 without glass. After some deliberation I bought a Springfield Armory 4-14 tactical calibrated for .223 bullet drop, and put that on the AR and moved the Leupold to the .308. My group size with the AR nearly tripled with the Springfield scope on it. It became an average shooter at best, but I could poke that eyeball out with the .308 now. lol

I sent the Springfield scope back thinking the reticle was moving around a bit or something, but they sent it back saying it was fine. I sold it on ebay.

I'm kinda hoping that the Burris will get my AR back to its old self. If not, I'll put it on my .243 and break down and buy another Leupold. The trouble is, I have a tough time parting with $800 for a scope. :)

The reason that rainy day stands out is that I think on that particular day, the way I was shooting, if it hadn't been dark, and rainy, and breezy, I coulda gotten that group down to less than an inch. I was in the zone man! And that was with South African surplus ammo.

Critter  posted on  2008-03-01   22:34:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Critter (#32)

Check out www.thehighroad.org/forum....php?s=&daysprune=30&f=23 the highroad and what they have to offer.

Lod  posted on  2008-03-01   22:55:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#34. To: lodwick (#33)

I'm banned from the high road, for being too radical.

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