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Title: 40% of American Jews "not driven by the word of God," says McCain supporter John Hagee
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URL Source: http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/ ... n-jews-not-driven-by-word.html
Published: Mar 3, 2008
Author: John Aravosis
Post Date: 2008-03-03 16:08:34 by aristeides
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40% of American Jews "not driven by the word of God," says McCain supporter John Hagee by John Aravosis (DC) · 3/03/2008 12:12:00 PM ET And the liberal agenda is they are pro-abortion. They're pro-homosexual. They're pro-gay marriage -- they want men to marry men and women to marry women -- and their difference with me is not really what I'm doing with Israel. Their hostility to me is poisoned by their liberalism. They take a liberal position that poisons their view of what we could be doing for Israel. Note that a bit more than one-third of American Jews (around 41%, per the latest PEW survey) belong to the Reform (or "liberal," as Hagee would say) denomination of Judaism. More here.
I think if I could put a dividing line, the Orthodox and Conservatives who have a Torah appreciation give us wholehearted support. The rest [of Jews] who are not driven by the Word of God have a liberal agenda.
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#57. To: FOH (#54)
You're a zionist, which means you're an idiot. Thus, there's no point in discussing anything with you.
I'm not going to entertain some zionist's public-relations-ploy delusions of morality, zionist.
If God is a "Zionist", then you can bet your last amero that I am one too. Do you believe that God is a "Zionist"? Oh, that's right. There is no God (outside of you being your own god). You came out of the swamp, maybe your ancestors were hatched...
Our last hope for peace Oh, you entertain all kinds of stuff I'm sure...
Our last hope for peace Who's ass did that come out of?
Is He?
Our last hope for peace So ... when are you and Hagee going to drop the morality act?
Neediness, it's a zionist hallmark.
Dodger
Our last hope for peace Let me know if you ever admit to the fundamental amorality of zionism.
Yeah, right after you answer the question "Is God a "Zionist?"".
Our last hope for peace You keep ducking the issue of the fundamental amorality of zionism.
YOU are the one 'ducking', Dodger...
Our last hope for peace Still using a religious pretense? Hilarious zionist.
Yawwwwwn. Dodger
Our last hope for peace Try selling your zionist pseudo-religious insanity to someone else. Not interested.
Keep thinking your question hasn't been properly flushed, zionist.
Seriously, with God all things are possible, but YOU. YOU are a bound up piece of work. You're swinging at ghosts...
Our last hope for peace Ok liberal atheist.
Our last hope for peace Are you sure it's okay with you, pig?
Why don't you take some oxycontin and bugger some more baby boys, zionist wind- bag.
Righto! But, he probably got his feelings hurt over there which is why he showed up here. The anonymity of the net is fertile ground for demented dwarves that wouldn't last five minutes in face to face discussions where their handicaps would be obvious disqualifiers. And, if everyone he alienates is "bad" then he must believe himself to be exempliary and therefore "good". They have institutions and restraints for folks with that affliction. You're a fine human being Ms. Dee, and I'm sorry that you were blindsided by this "unwell perthun". The good news is, he won't be here for long.
So stormfront is the place for anti-zionist statements, not here? Is that what you're telling me, Skippy?
Why's that, pig?
Though I don't ever post or go to stormfront, mentioning stormfront, especially as part of an elaborate fantasy, is a certain tell for being an ADLer-type psycho. Congratulations, you've outed yourself.
You won't make any progress unless you admit the fundamental amorality of zionism.
I'm not in favor of anyone raising any children for your precious amoral ZOG, zionist. Once the ZOG disappears, however, everything changes.
You think you're that good with the pink jail paint? Word of advice about that other thread - the one now that has you all over me like a vampire: Next time you involve zionists with allegedly sarcastic softball questions, make sure the sarcasm looks like it isn't directed at the reader, and try not to be lame.
Hilarious.
Is there anything in the Bible about a plague of obese retards? You are Rush Limbaugh, right?
You're swinging at ghosts... Booga-booga. Booo!!! Count me terrorized.
Sorry to hear that. When did you all get promoted?
Hagee's a war-monger. Don't be juvenile. It's not funny. Zionists are only funny to themselves or unintentionally.
I had to step away for a few hours and return to see numbnutz still blathering his madness. Got his little shorts all twisted up good and tight--so tight, he can't even remove his head from his ass to get a breath of fresh air. If numbnutz would have a doctor implant a plexiglass window in his stomach, he could see where he was going and not make such an ass of himself. This must be the week for 'broadbrushing' people about whom they are clueless. Or tossing buzzwords around like they're really hip or in the know..........
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
From the Christian perspective, it truly varies. There are Christians who follow the Old Testament, and those who don't. There are Christians who follow the 10 Commandments (each one) and those who only follow some. Likewise with Jews, in that some of them are reform, and others are orthodox, and all shades in between. I don't see much earthly Zionism in the New Testament, but then again I'm not a biblical scholar. I do see that America's constitution says nothing about the state of Israel. I also see that the Clean Break policy is in Israel's interest and not necessarily mine. What has become clear to me is that Christian Zionists, especially of the rapture doctrine persuasion, are very committed to using American foreign policy as an instrument of eschatology. The result of this is that they imagine the country of Israel as having defense and economic boundaries that are virtually within the extended limits of the United States. In other words, Christian Zionists (those who believe that God's kingdom can be realized on earth by human actions) have joined themselves with Jewish Zionists, and they want to use my tax dollars, our children's blood, and our national security as a tool for propagating these beliefs. What's in it for America? I think the reactions to the 9/11 Reichstag fire speak for themselves. The Constitution, formerly under attack, post-9/11 is dead. I supported Ron Paul because he did not follow the Christian Zionist template of Tancredo and Hunter. He was willing to treat Israel as any other country on the planet: as a potential friend, but a separate country from the United States. Until our borders are secure, the illegal alien problem is solved, our troops are withdrawn from needless foreign wars, our spending is under control, our fiscal policy has been restored, we do not even have time to spend on Israel's concerns. Anyone who advocates American policies that benefit Israel at the expense of American interests in any way deserves to be politically skewered. The trick played on the American people in the press is that Israel's national security relates to ours. How did this happen? We have plenty of clues, and one of them is that our Homeland Security Department head is Chertoff, who has dual citizenship with Israel. Many of the loudest proponents of RealID and the Patriot Acts have been pro-Israel Jews or Christian Zionists. (Hunter being a prime example.) Ron Paul offered a way forward that permitted Israel to conduct its own foreign policy separate from ours. But the media has done everything it can to stop that from happening. I think we know why. When push comes to shove, secular Jews in leadership positions in our Establishment tend to side with anyone who will continue to support an American foreign policy of Zionism. Until our republic is restored, all who advocate American government support for Zionism are part of the problem. Unless Christian Zionists concede that America's earthly foreign policies toward Israel are none of their concern, they're part of the problem. We see this on TOS2 every day. Somehow they could never get behind ending the Iraq war. They could never support Ron Paul. They could never support withdrawing our forces from strategic locations around the planet that benefit Israel. An independent Israel is in everyone's interests. Without American foreign aid welfare, Israel would have to conduct a very different foreign and domestic foreign policy. As Ron Paul has suggested, if Iraq and Iran were serious threats to Israel, its troops would be doing the fighting, not ours. Without a need to defend Israel militarily, many of our self-destructive foreign policies could change overnight. We could come home from Iraq and stop threatening Iran, since these would be Israel's problems instead of ours as well. The notion that global security required us to put Israel under our umbrella appears to be a tool of the global government advocates. One of the UN's first tasks was establishing Israel, for example. Israel managed to capture America's support during the Cold War, but when will it end? No time soon, as far as Hagee is concerned. Hagee is part of the problem. He's in the middle of it. And he deserves to be criticized for it. He's misleading America's rapture believers into deeper and deeper associations of Israel with America's foreign policy. He might as well be working for the Council on Foreign Relations.
No need. You raise some good points about facts in arguments. That's excellent advice for me.
I regularly call for their impeachment and removal from government.
Only zionist rectums call me "numbnutz."
Put some real meat out there that people can digest, not just me, numbnutz....but all the 'lurkers' or other silent types. Make your friggin case..........talking in buzzwords or code is plain and simple bullshit..........you're tossing lots of words around at the fan, just hoping against hope that they're light enough they'll stick on the wall, rather than slide down to become the shitpile of junk. The fact is - you're an idiot.
What points are those? That facts are only facts when rowdee says they are? That's bullshit. Zionism is amoral and that's a fact.
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#58. To: FOH (#56)
#59. To: nobody (#57)
You're a zionist, which means you're an idiot. Thus, there's no point in discussing anything with you.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#60. To: nobody (#58)
I'm not going to entertain some zionist's public-relations-ploy delusions of morality, zionist.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#61. To: FOH (#59)
God is a "Zionist"
#62. To: nobody (#61)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#63. To: FOH (#60)
#64. To: FOH (#62)
#65. To: nobody (#64)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#66. To: FOH (#62)
Is He?
#67. To: nobody (#66)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#68. To: FOH (#65)
#69. To: nobody (#68)
You keep ducking the issue of the fundamental amorality of zionism.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#70. To: FOH (#67)
#71. To: nobody (#70)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#72. To: FOH (#69)
#73. To: FOH (#71)
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#74. To: nobody (#72)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#75. To: nobody (#73)
Keep thinking your question hasn't been disposed of, zionist.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#76. To: FOH (#75)
#77. To: FOH (#75)
(Edited)
liberal atheist
#78. To: rowdee (#29)
Hey, Dawgie.........I'd give numbnutz a link to some stormfront organization, but he no doubt has them all already. Whada ya think?
#79. To: HOUNDDAWG (#78)
he probably got his feelings hurt over there
#80. To: HOUNDDAWG (#78)
The good news is, he won't be here for long.
#81. To: HOUNDDAWG (#78)
#82. To: FOH (#75)
liberal atheist
#83. To: FOH (#75)
#84. To: HOUNDDAWG (#78)
The good news is, he won't be here for long.
#85. To: FOH (#59)
If God is a "Zionist", then you can bet your last amero that I am one too.
#86. To: FOH (#75)
#87. To: FOH (#74)
Seriously, with God all things are possible, but YOU. YOU are a bound up piece of work.
#88. To: FOH (#74)
You're swinging at ghosts
#89. To: FOH (#48)
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Listening to nobody talk about Christians is like being lectured to on pornography by Ted Bundy.
#90. To: HOUNDDAWG (#78)
#91. To: FOH, rowdee, HOUNDDAWG (#59)
(Edited)
Do you believe that God is a "Zionist"?
#92. To: rowdee (#27)
Buckeye, my apologies...
#93. To: rowdee (#25)
You should be more concerned with the likes of Wolfy, Rummy, Cheney, Condi, Perley, and any other neo-con bastard that ever came down the pike.
#94. To: FOH, rowdee, HOUNDDAWG (#91)
#95. To: rowdee (#90)
I had to step away for a few hours and return to see numbnutz still blathering his madness.
#96. To: rowdee (#24)
Dipwad......I am NOT in Hagee's corner, numbnutz! You're trying to make a case against him, so damn it do so--with FACTS, not your own personal opinion, which you somehow equate to 'facts'.
#97. To: buckeye (#92)
You raise some good points about facts in arguments.
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