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Title: 40% of American Jews "not driven by the word of God," says McCain supporter John Hagee
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Published: Mar 3, 2008
Author: John Aravosis
Post Date: 2008-03-03 16:08:34 by aristeides
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40% of American Jews "not driven by the word of God," says McCain supporter John Hagee by John Aravosis (DC) · 3/03/2008 12:12:00 PM ET And the liberal agenda is they are pro-abortion. They're pro-homosexual. They're pro-gay marriage -- they want men to marry men and women to marry women -- and their difference with me is not really what I'm doing with Israel. Their hostility to me is poisoned by their liberalism. They take a liberal position that poisons their view of what we could be doing for Israel. Note that a bit more than one-third of American Jews (around 41%, per the latest PEW survey) belong to the Reform (or "liberal," as Hagee would say) denomination of Judaism. More here.
I think if I could put a dividing line, the Orthodox and Conservatives who have a Torah appreciation give us wholehearted support. The rest [of Jews] who are not driven by the Word of God have a liberal agenda.
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#1. To: aristeides (#0)
Satan and Fawell are waiting for you in Hell Hagee, the bloodcurdling mansion of time.
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
In college I went to a party by a Reform synagogue. They knew how to have fun.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' Hagee is a pathetic glutton of a mobster who is allowed to steal from US taxpayers because he's a zionist.
Hagee is an immoral fat pig of a con-man and a thief who is sending a clear message that being a zionist gives people a free pass to lie, steal and murder.
Steals from the taxpayers? How so?
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
If his zionist church scam is tax-exempt, he's stealing from taxpayers while running a church that mixes politics and religion. If not, he's still a part of the taxpayer theft that is zionism.
"If", "scam", "stealing" "accomplice"......please explain. Has the IRS challenged him on anything? Are your shorts in an uproar because people pay tithes to his church?
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
You asked a question, you got an answer. Now you're looking even needier. If his zionist church is tax-exempt, he's stealing from taxpayers while running a church that mixes politics and religion. If not, he's still a part of the taxpayer theft that is zionism. Now, why should you get all worked up and pointlessly obsess about my underwear, is it because I answered your question?
I'm trying to figure out what you are trying to say. And where your connection with politics and religion comes in, as well......is that because he endorsed Mchurian? Or you believe Israel is 'politics'? I see all these words tossed out there with nothing to back them up--including much in the way of explanation of what it is that is twisting the shorts!
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
The IRS is a part of the ZOG. Is that what still makes them an unbiased authority on the topic to you?
It's my words against ZOG's .... and yours. So, yes, even without your inestimable cheerleader-class weight, there is a distinct imbalance of force.
Conversations with zionist cheerleaders carrying delusions of convincingness are not the best use of my time, so .... Have a nice day, needy person.
What the fuck are you talking about? Get a grip on yourself, and on life. People can ask genuine questions, asshole........oooooh, no! That's a fuckin conspiracy, too.....and I bet you can fit zionist in there somewhere as well.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
Well that certainly explains you.......you have no legit responses. You have a good day, as well......you certainly need it.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
I'm sure you tell that to everyone who recognizes zionism for the taxpayer theft that it is.
You have a funny zionist way of telling me you've just been nailed.
Zionists need a brain that doesn't constantly leak. LOL
Hagee is not some lone whacko TV preacher on a one-town cable network. He is having an impact on our foreign policy. He advises voters. He's not making the news stumping for a restoration of our rights, either. And I don't hear him talking about our fiscal policy at all. I can't think of anything more important than reigning in our foreign policy (which he advises the opposite), balancing our budget, and restoring our rights. People in public who don't seem to get these important concepts tend to rankle anyone who cares.
Right. But, that wasn't the point of contention. nobody stated that Hagee is "stealing taxpayer dollars", on the erroneous presumption that if the church wasn't "fraudulently tax exempt" that A) people would still donate to it or B) the money would somehow be taxable if used for something else. rowdee is well aware of what a snake in the grass Hagee is, but that wasn't what she was asking for clarification about. Of course even a civil request for clarification causes the little troll to start foaming at the mouth, because he doesn't allow anyone to underscore the weaknesses in his self serving anti logic without attempting to punish them. (The mark of a true intellectual, I'll tell you!) So, for the benefit of all let me say that Hagee's skillful manipulations have allowed him to use his tax exempt status for many things that appear shady. But, fraud and theft of tax dollars are crimes and cannot simply be alleged, but must be proven. Asking for that proof caused Little Master Thorazine to set upon rowdee because answering the question would have revealed the fact that his emotional tirades are a poor substitute for proof of criminal wrongdoing.
Do what I do. Stick it to him then don't read his insane rant replies! It makes him crazier! HAH!
I'm still getting to know everyone here. By the time I figure people out, they'll be older anyway.
Have a donut, you'll feel better.
You're such a transparent moron. Here, let me make you feel at home: "Oink."
Dipwad......I am NOT in Hagee's corner, numbnutz! You're trying to make a case against him, so damn it do so--with FACTS, not your own personal opinion, which you somehow equate to 'facts'. Put some real meat out there that people can digest, not just me, numbnutz....but all the 'lurkers' or other silent types. Make your friggin case..........talking in buzzwords or code is plain and simple bullshit..........you're tossing lots of words around at the fan, just hoping against hope that they're light enough they'll stick on the wall, rather than slide down to become the shitpile of junk.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
Hagee, as a citizen of this nation, has the right to speak his mind. That his is convoluted and warped is one thing, but it doesn't make him a thief, a robber, a murderer, or a whole slew of other crap! So he gets to sit with the little general--maybe--it doesn't mean squat! You should be more concerned with the likes of Wolfy, Rummy, Cheney, Condi, Perley, and any other neo-con bastard that ever came down the pike.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
I didn't know that numbnutz is a troll.....thank you for informing me of such. I shall hereafter act accordingly. :) BTW, has anyone ever told you that u b one great dawg? Hmmmmm? LOL......tis true.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
Buckeye, my apologies..........this comment was certainly not meant for you, but for the numbnutz amongst us--the one that Dawgie knocked up side the head.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
This one, buckeye, is properly for you. Again, my apologies.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
Hey, Dawgie.........I'd give numbnutz a link to some stormfront organization, but he no doubt has them all already. Whada ya think?
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
You are definitely some finely mincing zionist pig gangleader material.
Did you admit to being a zionist yet?
I can't argue with an imaginary character. If you won't admit you're a zionist, there's nothing else to discuss.
I cannot discuss anything with someone who is so determined to mislead people about where they are coming from. You lack authenticity, are a very lazy gainsayer, and have an over-inflated opinion of your ability to fool people. The fact that you have Mr. Damn-right-Skippy-redfist the pinkpainter on your side is not helping.
Did you say you think Hagee's mind is "convoluted and warped"? Is it 40% warped and 60% convoluted, or is it 60/40, or something else?
I think your patois suggests your truncheon could probably use some polishing.
The values Hagee conveys are worship of fraud, theft and murder. Hagee's a major supporter of zionist expansionism and that makes him an accomplice to fraud, theft and murder.
And the liberal agenda is they are pro-abortion. They're pro-homosexual. They're pro-gay marriage -- they want men to marry men and women to marry women -- and their difference with me is not really what I'm doing with Israel. Their hostility to me is poisoned by their liberalism. They take a liberal position that poisons their view of what we could be doing for Israel. He DOES seem to have some grasp of one level of the issue.
Our last hope for peace He has the same basic grasp that any perennial sucker does for the over-used inevitably-pro-zionist ginned-up left-right extremist dialectic. What this means is he's remarkably imbecilic, even for a zionist expansionist.
And what grasp are you talking about? Are you an offended liberal or Jew? Or just your garden variety God hater (except for Allah)?
Our last hope for peace Is that directed at me, and if so, why?
What do you specifically disagree with about this article, other than you hate John Hagee? Do you have different views than Hagee's?
Our last hope for peace You're quoting Hagee as if it's an excuse to ask me if I'm a liberal? Regardless of whether you're a turdburglar who has fathered 60 aborted fetuses, zionism is still fraud, theft and murder.
He's a major supporter of zionism. That means he's amoral.
But the subject here isn't "Zionism". What views regarding the central topic do you disagree with?
Our last hope for peace Listening to Hagee talk about morality is like being lectured to on pornography by Ted Bundy.
What about his specific comments? That's all you have? You're, what? An atheist? What does that make you?
Our last hope for peace I don't like Ted Bundy types. They discredit anything they say anyway. If you weren't so unusually slow for your level of intellectual ambition, you'd have figured it out already.
Listening to nobody talk about Christians is like being lectured to on pornography by Ted Bundy.
Our last hope for peace See 48.
Our last hope for peace I'm not part of any religious fraud club.
You zionists have a funny way of letting your brains leak out.
So you think zionists aren't all amoral. That just makes you an idiot. Not my problem, idiot.
So you think zionist leaders are not frauds, thieves and murderers. That merely means you're a zionist idiot. Not really my problem, I wasn't even around you whenever it happened.
Is God a "Zionist"?
Our last hope for peace Should Israel be destroyed for their evil leadership?
Our last hope for peace Darwinian?
Our last hope for peace You're a zionist, which means you're an idiot. Thus, there's no point in discussing anything with you.
I'm not going to entertain some zionist's public-relations-ploy delusions of morality, zionist.
If God is a "Zionist", then you can bet your last amero that I am one too. Do you believe that God is a "Zionist"? Oh, that's right. There is no God (outside of you being your own god). You came out of the swamp, maybe your ancestors were hatched...
Our last hope for peace Oh, you entertain all kinds of stuff I'm sure...
Our last hope for peace Who's ass did that come out of?
Is He?
Our last hope for peace So ... when are you and Hagee going to drop the morality act?
Neediness, it's a zionist hallmark.
Dodger
Our last hope for peace Let me know if you ever admit to the fundamental amorality of zionism.
Yeah, right after you answer the question "Is God a "Zionist?"".
Our last hope for peace You keep ducking the issue of the fundamental amorality of zionism.
YOU are the one 'ducking', Dodger...
Our last hope for peace Still using a religious pretense? Hilarious zionist.
Yawwwwwn. Dodger
Our last hope for peace Try selling your zionist pseudo-religious insanity to someone else. Not interested.
Keep thinking your question hasn't been properly flushed, zionist.
Seriously, with God all things are possible, but YOU. YOU are a bound up piece of work. You're swinging at ghosts...
Our last hope for peace Ok liberal atheist.
Our last hope for peace Are you sure it's okay with you, pig?
Why don't you take some oxycontin and bugger some more baby boys, zionist wind- bag.
Righto! But, he probably got his feelings hurt over there which is why he showed up here. The anonymity of the net is fertile ground for demented dwarves that wouldn't last five minutes in face to face discussions where their handicaps would be obvious disqualifiers. And, if everyone he alienates is "bad" then he must believe himself to be exempliary and therefore "good". They have institutions and restraints for folks with that affliction. You're a fine human being Ms. Dee, and I'm sorry that you were blindsided by this "unwell perthun". The good news is, he won't be here for long.
So stormfront is the place for anti-zionist statements, not here? Is that what you're telling me, Skippy?
Why's that, pig?
Though I don't ever post or go to stormfront, mentioning stormfront, especially as part of an elaborate fantasy, is a certain tell for being an ADLer-type psycho. Congratulations, you've outed yourself.
You won't make any progress unless you admit the fundamental amorality of zionism.
I'm not in favor of anyone raising any children for your precious amoral ZOG, zionist. Once the ZOG disappears, however, everything changes.
You think you're that good with the pink jail paint? Word of advice about that other thread - the one now that has you all over me like a vampire: Next time you involve zionists with allegedly sarcastic softball questions, make sure the sarcasm looks like it isn't directed at the reader, and try not to be lame.
Hilarious.
Is there anything in the Bible about a plague of obese retards? You are Rush Limbaugh, right?
You're swinging at ghosts... Booga-booga. Booo!!! Count me terrorized.
Sorry to hear that. When did you all get promoted?
Hagee's a war-monger. Don't be juvenile. It's not funny. Zionists are only funny to themselves or unintentionally.
I had to step away for a few hours and return to see numbnutz still blathering his madness. Got his little shorts all twisted up good and tight--so tight, he can't even remove his head from his ass to get a breath of fresh air. If numbnutz would have a doctor implant a plexiglass window in his stomach, he could see where he was going and not make such an ass of himself. This must be the week for 'broadbrushing' people about whom they are clueless. Or tossing buzzwords around like they're really hip or in the know..........
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
From the Christian perspective, it truly varies. There are Christians who follow the Old Testament, and those who don't. There are Christians who follow the 10 Commandments (each one) and those who only follow some. Likewise with Jews, in that some of them are reform, and others are orthodox, and all shades in between. I don't see much earthly Zionism in the New Testament, but then again I'm not a biblical scholar. I do see that America's constitution says nothing about the state of Israel. I also see that the Clean Break policy is in Israel's interest and not necessarily mine. What has become clear to me is that Christian Zionists, especially of the rapture doctrine persuasion, are very committed to using American foreign policy as an instrument of eschatology. The result of this is that they imagine the country of Israel as having defense and economic boundaries that are virtually within the extended limits of the United States. In other words, Christian Zionists (those who believe that God's kingdom can be realized on earth by human actions) have joined themselves with Jewish Zionists, and they want to use my tax dollars, our children's blood, and our national security as a tool for propagating these beliefs. What's in it for America? I think the reactions to the 9/11 Reichstag fire speak for themselves. The Constitution, formerly under attack, post-9/11 is dead. I supported Ron Paul because he did not follow the Christian Zionist template of Tancredo and Hunter. He was willing to treat Israel as any other country on the planet: as a potential friend, but a separate country from the United States. Until our borders are secure, the illegal alien problem is solved, our troops are withdrawn from needless foreign wars, our spending is under control, our fiscal policy has been restored, we do not even have time to spend on Israel's concerns. Anyone who advocates American policies that benefit Israel at the expense of American interests in any way deserves to be politically skewered. The trick played on the American people in the press is that Israel's national security relates to ours. How did this happen? We have plenty of clues, and one of them is that our Homeland Security Department head is Chertoff, who has dual citizenship with Israel. Many of the loudest proponents of RealID and the Patriot Acts have been pro-Israel Jews or Christian Zionists. (Hunter being a prime example.) Ron Paul offered a way forward that permitted Israel to conduct its own foreign policy separate from ours. But the media has done everything it can to stop that from happening. I think we know why. When push comes to shove, secular Jews in leadership positions in our Establishment tend to side with anyone who will continue to support an American foreign policy of Zionism. Until our republic is restored, all who advocate American government support for Zionism are part of the problem. Unless Christian Zionists concede that America's earthly foreign policies toward Israel are none of their concern, they're part of the problem. We see this on TOS2 every day. Somehow they could never get behind ending the Iraq war. They could never support Ron Paul. They could never support withdrawing our forces from strategic locations around the planet that benefit Israel. An independent Israel is in everyone's interests. Without American foreign aid welfare, Israel would have to conduct a very different foreign and domestic foreign policy. As Ron Paul has suggested, if Iraq and Iran were serious threats to Israel, its troops would be doing the fighting, not ours. Without a need to defend Israel militarily, many of our self-destructive foreign policies could change overnight. We could come home from Iraq and stop threatening Iran, since these would be Israel's problems instead of ours as well. The notion that global security required us to put Israel under our umbrella appears to be a tool of the global government advocates. One of the UN's first tasks was establishing Israel, for example. Israel managed to capture America's support during the Cold War, but when will it end? No time soon, as far as Hagee is concerned. Hagee is part of the problem. He's in the middle of it. And he deserves to be criticized for it. He's misleading America's rapture believers into deeper and deeper associations of Israel with America's foreign policy. He might as well be working for the Council on Foreign Relations.
No need. You raise some good points about facts in arguments. That's excellent advice for me.
I regularly call for their impeachment and removal from government.
Only zionist rectums call me "numbnutz."
Put some real meat out there that people can digest, not just me, numbnutz....but all the 'lurkers' or other silent types. Make your friggin case..........talking in buzzwords or code is plain and simple bullshit..........you're tossing lots of words around at the fan, just hoping against hope that they're light enough they'll stick on the wall, rather than slide down to become the shitpile of junk. The fact is - you're an idiot.
What points are those? That facts are only facts when rowdee says they are? That's bullshit. Zionism is amoral and that's a fact.
What makes you think I'd answer such a moronic question?
Excerpt from "The Fatal Embrace" Jews and the State by Benjamin Ginsberg: "To be sure, where Jews forge a close reltionship with the State, they may well obtain protection and a considerable measure of power. In ancient Babylonia, all citizens were required to bow before the exilarch, or leader of the Jewish community". Exilarch = Head Pharisee ie., head Jew. These people (Jews/Babylonians) have always been intimately and critically involved in international implementation of police state governments for their own profit and power motives, but more importantly they have waged perpetual war against everyone else in society through adherence to the hegelian dialectic with every intention of ruling over the earth itself. )()()()()()()(()()()()()(()()()()()()()()()(()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()(()
And the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the purpose of enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder their people, are among the greatest villains that the world has ever seen. And they as much deserve to be hunted and killed (if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave traders, robbers, or pirates that ever lived. ... Lysander Spooner
Oh, that's right. There is no God (outside of you being your own god). "God" is something crazy people like you invented and now re-invent on a daily basis. By the way, your apparently anti-zionist act is wearing thin.
The only person I've seen talking like that claimed to be jewish.
It's actually a rigged dialectic. The Hegelian dialectic does not have to be rigged, so "Hageelian dialectic" is more like it.
Any person who says the left or the right is sinking the country faster than zionism, like Hagee does, is a person who is apparently mentally out to lunch at a roach coach.
LMAO seems like FFum at last has its very own paid shill-provocateur "international socialist committee of the anointed who will rule you because of their superiority and because its for your own good". sounds like ell pee redux
I believe that the judgment of God is a very real thing, and you're about to feel it.
Oops, their thermate is showing.
Hey, flip-flopping zionist fruit tree - go water yourself.
You mean the "Culture of Life" (TM) as seen on TV.
I'm going to wait until the zionist (aka "neo-con") apologist takes a short break from his constant nationalistic expansionism in order to bring up "moral relativism" before I bust a nut laughing.
hilarious, and way too cute for the real Hagee
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' But I wouldn't call you Dipwad. :) You have always seemed reasonable and respond to questions when asked. You don't just throw flippin words around like the basement dweller to make yourself appear to be hip or in the know or whatever debased reason numbnutz has for flinging his shit around. And you certainly don't act as though everyone in the forum is an adversary.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
Loser-child, you sure think you are getting a lot of mileage out of pretending you sent your childish post to buckeye by mistake.
I don't see it either, nor do I see any other nation mentioned. Nor do I see where Christian-State World Dominance by force is found in the Bible. The fact of the matter is, everyone has fault in this mess. Sadly, most Christians (whether they're right, wrong or confused) would not get behind Ron Paul for lack of understanding. It's not difficult to understand, for me at least.
Our last hope for peace It appears numbnutz has turned his basement bully tactics your way.....did you ever get an answer to a plain simple question you asked? Didn't think you would. Me neither... At least even the newest of lurkers or readers will be able to follow the thread and see just how shallow or lame he/she/it is; that the same he/she/it doesn't want to discuss or debate or educate but rather wants to be seen as being hip or with it. I guess the basement is lonelier than usual of late.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
I support the sovereign State of Israel as much as I supported the sovereign State of Iraq and the sovereign State of the united States of America, etc. To say it's hilarious watching the muzzbots, atheists and followers of St. Augustine/Martin Luther/Adolf Hitler go on and on is an understatement though!
Our last hope for peace translation: I nailed you two zionist to the wall.
Oh well...it's nobody.
Our last hope for peace Suggested title: "Study of yet another wilt-leaf zionist plant protesting too much."
LOLOL! Tell Adolf what a fan you are when you get there.
Our last hope for peace Its probably the case that most haven't heard of him. Back around 1999 or 2000, when I was posting at tos1, I had a friend over in Washington state who was also a supporter of Alan Keyes. She related the story about how no one where she worked knew who he was--not even the black men or women. I'm sure there some racists that would have some smart-assed remarks re this, but it would fly in the face of the fact that blacks have always been looking for leaders, someone they can look up to as one of theirs. Whether one likes Keyes or not, he is very intelligent, he is well spoken. He isn't shy about speaking up or out---and yet none of them knew who he was. Once they were given transcripts or a video of some of his speeches, they were ticked that they, their families, and their friends, had been shut off from knowing anything about the guy. Not everyone is all gung ho in politics like most of us here; not everyone has cable or satellite; not everyone reads full articles, if they take the newspaper, but IIRC, research has shown they generally read the first few paragraphs to get a feel for the story and move on. They're involved in job(s), church, school, their families and their childrens activities.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
Tell everyone what a great guy Hagee is again.
He/she/it couldn't have picked a more appropriate screen name.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
Spotting zionist plants is just a hobby with me.
Actually, most HAD heard of him in my goings on. And I talked to thousands and THOUSANDS of them the last many months. "Must Win The WAR" "Ron Paul is against Israel" Those are the two most common replies from actual Bible believers...
Our last hope for peace Ok. Right after you first show me where I said that Hagee is a great guy.
Our last hope for peace "Must Win The WAR" "Ron Paul is against Israel" Whatever sounds good to an obvious zionist plant, in other words. Kudos on getting yourself so deeply embedded that you have such remarkable access.
I supported Alan 20 years ago. He fell out of grace with me over time and with good reason.
Our last hope for peace You might be a candidate for a big hug. Did a priest get into your pants as a lad?
Our last hope for peace Didn't think you would. Me neither... At least even the newest of lurkers or readers will be able to follow the thread and see just how shallow or lame he/she/it is; that the same he/she/it doesn't want to discuss or debate or educate but rather wants to be seen as being hip or with it. I guess the basement is lonelier than usual of late. HAH! You sure have nobrains' number! He lives in his mom's basement and issues orders for his other shock troops and storm troopers, and his powerful oratory and rants earned him the respect of all the other cottage residents in rehab, and will someday make him a legend on his cellblock! And, if you've read one of his lunatic ravings, you've read them all! *nobrains* "You know who made you say that, Hmmmm? ZOG! ZOG ZOG ZOG ZOG ZOG! Oh, Old MacDonald had a farm ZEE OH, ZOO OH GEE! Precious bodily fluids! OH, MOM, where's my medicine? You know what happens if I don't take my medicine! I hate you! AHHHHHHHHHH" HAH!
Is God a "Zionist"?
Our last hope for peace Zionists are drawn to US politics like child molestors are drawn to the boy scouts.
heheheheh
Our last hope for peace Who gives a crap here about your ridiculous "God," besides you and rowdee? I want to know the posting names of all those pervs.
He fell out of grace with me over time and with good reason. Same here. He started to sound a little too much like a religious fundie who'd codify his beliefs into federal law if he could. But, when I first heard him speak years ago he really wowed me. He even made a joke about how his alma mater Harvard wouldn't be too quick to claim him anymore because his politics are antithetical to their star players' views. And, when he attempted to crash the debate in Atlanta (League Of Noisy Voters I think it was) I thought that he lost more than he gained from it. Which is exactly why Ron Paul didn't challenge the results in New Hampshire. The results would have been a net loss because the only publicity he would get would be bad. Some folks believe that the great unwashed can read between the lines but that simply isn't true, and it's always a mistake to open the door for O'Reilly and Hannity to savage a candidate.
That is all. Take care bozo.
Our last hope for peace Ok. Right after you first show me where I said that Hagee is a great guy. Oh shit!!! There you go again......details, details, details!! Or should I say, FACTS, FACTS, FACTS! Either way, won't make a difference---he/she/it will attempt to launch yet another bowel movement.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
Likewise here.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
I truly feel sorry for the God haters, because a)they're miserable as can be and b)they're going to hell if nothing changes. However, I will only suffer fools for so long...I'm too busy to have enough time on here or anywhere else to suffer fools.
Our last hope for peace When it became Alan was nothing more than a PNAC-lite opportunist I parted company.
Our last hope for peace Seems like you got em right as well. Wish he/she/its mommy would hurry with the meds.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
I personally was glad to see that Ron didn't expend any time over the reuslts in NH. The rabid jackals like limbaugh, hannity, ingraham, etc., live for moments such as that so they can savage them, as you say. One might as well sit strapped into a chair, with a bullseye hung on your chest. I didn't like it that the results were questionable, but you have to pick and choose your battles. When I ran for office, my opponent was a drug using alcoholic. I dare not have spoken out about that--thats unfair in the minds of many voters-- but I knew the liberal rag would have been all over me like ugly on an ape with comments from 'people' in the district.......a perfect smear campaign on me with quotes from the selected ones--like union agents, school teachers, and the like. You have to play with the cards dealt you--at least for a bit.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
I agree with you on both matters, FOH.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
Well then, that means we're both either right or wrong! ;)
Our last hope for peace Then we all agree. As Americans we're starved for leadership that speaks to our hearts, and Alan was really good for a while until it was time to make a choice. He sided with Harvard/Israel/PNAC/perpetual imperialism after all. And, he of all people, Mr. "Tell It Like It Is and Let The Chips Fall Where They May" folded like an accordion, and it was ever so obvious that he compromised his morals to avoid the consequences of truth.
Yessir. I nearly gagged when he and dershowitz were going to go at it over torture to find that he was all for torture, that their argument was the degree or type.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
A good note to break on!
Our last hope for peace If you check out the latest comments page you'll see that he frantically hammered out seven consecutive posts to someone who won't even read his dew dew! How rude eye yam! He's the kind of troll who thinks he can actually bully someone over the internet into stepping into piles of his shit! (As if everyone else is obsessive-compulsive and hears voices "zog, zog ZOG!") So, you see what I mean when I say that I know his little secret? After seven attempts to get a DAWG to eat broccoli, you think he'd give up! The other obvious message here is, sadly, this is the type of personality (that we read about all too often) who predictably abuses women, children and small animals because he doesn't dare try to bully real men face to face, and "sounding tall" over the net just doesn't prop up the ailing ego enough. Also, please note that there's been no mention of his family because no self respecting woman would have anything to do with him, and (even if he wasn't impotent and living in Mommy's basement) they certainly wouldn't bear his children! Now, Ms. Dee, I read nothing he writes and he's anxiously waiting to pounce on everything I post. So I ask you, who's in control? That ol' ZOG is rearing its ugly head again! BWAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!
Good job ignoring me, cartoon cretin.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAHHH! Cretin denies existence of ZOG. News at 11.
"The cartoonier your posts get, the zionister you look."
With the Christian Zionists following men like Hageee, we have a problem. Have you seen Deadly Enemy, Deadly Friend, a review of The Fatal Embrace: Jews and the State by Sniegoski? 4 thread: freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=73631 It seems that it's very difficult to forget one's cultural homeland. It may be too much to ask. With all the Jewish influence on our media and educational establishment, as well as Jewish money in politics, it seems that we the American people have a real challenge ahead of us in distinguishing Israel from our own territory.
ROTFLMAO! I can 'see' the steam pouring out of its ears, face contorted, and the blood vessels along the temple popping out, engorging themselves with blood as his demonic single cell grey mass has his stubby sausage-looking fingers just a poundin away at that keyboard as though the force of his strokes would compel you to read his garbage (accent over the second 'a', please--I'm feelin a bit frisky today) and respond!
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
I have issues with Israel, just as I have issues with every other place we have our soldiers stationed around the world........what was it, something like 700 bases or places of operation. Get their asses home and on the borderS.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
Yes, and one of the main reasons for not having dual citizenship.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
Yes, of course. You're assuming Americans have control over their own country.
Oh no......I'm now into assuming that every frickin conspiracy thought, idea, or theory thaqt ever came down the pike is running everything, everywhere, all the time. We can't control our own bowels let along ourselves or our government, or anything else. Problems......yes, we have problems. I ain't worried about 'them', buckeye..........I look to the highest authority, God. He's the one to worry about IMO. I crack up at these evangelicals I hear calling for gettin over there to help bring the end about. Do these morons believe that God needs their help? That he can't do it his way, in his time? Are they so damned stupid they can't read scriptures and find that our beloved Messiah didn't even know the date or time.........but they think they can 'bring it on' somehow. I don't let this sort of crap get me down just as I don't go the opposite direction like numbnutz and go all bonkers about something 'he just knows' is fact but he ain't about to tell anyone!
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
If our founding fathers took that approach, we wouldn't have a country today. God helps those who help themselves.
www.youtube.com/watch? v=m8khCJTDD44 He isn't either. Here in his own words denies Christ is the messiah, and that the jews did not reject Him. Sorry, I forgot how to post vids.
nobrains reminds me of the little boy in THE SIXTH SENSE: "I see ZOG people.....They don't know they're ZOG....." One day Houndmutt is pretending to be angry about zionist loyalties in government, the next day he's out of the closet for ZOG. Ask your doc to adjust the meds, boy.
You're starved for a fresh load of Hagee Spackle and that's about it, Sybildawg.
How big is that railroad in the basement, the one with some cars for the libs...
"I see ZOG people.....They don't know they're ZOG....." LMAO. Remember, I never said you were useless.
You say I'm a lib because I don't look kindly on your petitions to government to change the laws on abortion. You say I'm a lib because I don't parade a God before you to condemn you and I don't look kindly on your petitions to government to change the laws in the middle east. Wake up, Fraud Over Help
All you're going to give me today is more lazy cut-paste gainsaying and more neo-con garden-pathing that's too cute to feign innocence about. The subject's Hagee yet you claimed zionism isn't relevant. Pure laziness, cretin.
Frustrated statist.
Appears numbnutz found another way out of the basement, but he/she/its still drooling the nonsense just as a baby drools while teething! LOL.....zoggy, zoggy, zoggy.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
What are you, a gay rabbi?
hounddog is a boderline pederast.
I'm quite familiar with your malfunctions and his. Screw both of you clowns.
I don't have sex with clowns. So no.
I'm just here to pull the stick out of your fat ass, babble banger.
#2. To: aristeides (#0)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#3. To: aristeides (#0)
#4. To: aristeides (#0)
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#5. To: nobody (#3)
#6. To: rowdee (#5)
(Edited)
#7. To: nobody (#6)
#8. To: rowdee (#7)
#9. To: nobody (#8)
#10. To: rowdee (#7)
Has the IRS challenged him ... ?
#11. To: rowdee (#9)
(Edited)
nothing to back them up
#12. To: rowdee (#9)
(Edited)
#13. To: nobody (#11)
#14. To: nobody (#12)
#15. To: rowdee (#14)
you have no legit responses
#16. To: rowdee (#14)
that certainly explains you
#17. To: rowdee (#14)
#18. To: rowdee (#9)
#19. To: buckeye, rowdee (#18)
Hagee is not some lone whacko TV preacher on a one-town cable network. He is having an impact on our foreign policy. He advises voters. He's not making the news stumping for a restoration of our rights, either. And I don't hear him talking about our fiscal policy at all. I can't think of anything more important than reigning in our foreign policy (which he advises the opposite), balancing our budget, and restoring our rights. People in public who don't seem to get these important concepts tend to rankle anyone who cares.
#20. To: rowdee (#14)
Well that certainly explains you.......you have no legit responses. You have a good day, as well......you certainly need it.
#21. To: HOUNDDAWG (#19)
#22. To: HOUNDDAWG (#20)
#23. To: HOUNDDAWG (#19)
nobody stated that Hagee is "stealing taxpayer dollars", on the erroneous presumption that if the church wasn't "fraudulently tax exempt" that A) people would still donate to it or B) the money would somehow be taxable if used for something else.
#24. To: buckeye (#18)
#25. To: buckeye (#18)
#26. To: HOUNDDAWG (#19)
#27. To: buckeye, nobodyAll (#24)
#28. To: All (#25)
#29. To: HOUNDDAWG (#20)
#30. To: rowdee (#27)
#31. To: rowdee (#29)
stormfront
#32. To: rowdee (#29)
#33. To: rowdee (#28)
(Edited)
I am NOT in Hagee's corner, numbnutz! You're trying to make a case against him, so damn it do so--with FACTS, not your own personal opinion, which you somehow equate to 'facts'.
#34. To: rowdee (#25)
(Edited)
convoluted and warped
#35. To: rowdee (#29)
Hey, Dawgie.........I'd give numbnutz a link to some stormfront organization, but he no doubt has them all already. Whada ya think?
#36. To: rowdee (#25)
Hagee, as a citizen of this nation, has the right to speak his mind. That his is convoluted and warped is one thing, but it doesn't make him a thief, a robber, a murderer, or a whole slew of other crap!
#37. To: aristeides (#0)
I think if I could put a dividing line, the Orthodox and Conservatives who have a Torah appreciation give us wholehearted support. The rest [of Jews] who are not driven by the Word of God have a liberal agenda.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#38. To: FOH (#37)
(Edited)
He DOES seem to have some grasp of one level of the issue.
#39. To: nobody (#38)
The rest [of Jews] who are not driven by the Word of God have a liberal agenda.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#40. To: FOH (#39)
#41. To: nobody (#40)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#42. To: FOH (#39)
#43. To: FOH (#41)
Do you have different views than Hagee's?
#44. To: nobody (#42)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#45. To: FOH (#41)
#46. To: nobody (#43)
He's a major supporter of zionism. That means he's amoral.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#47. To: FOH (#44)
#48. To: nobody (#45)
Listening to Hagee talk about morality is like being lectured to on pornography by Ted Bundy.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#49. To: nobody (#47)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#50. To: FOH (#46)
You're, what? An atheist?
#51. To: FOH (#48)
#52. To: FOH (#49)
#53. To: FOH (#49)
#54. To: nobody (#52)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#55. To: nobody (#53)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#56. To: nobody (#50)
I'm not part of any religious fraud club.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#57. To: FOH (#54)
#58. To: FOH (#56)
#59. To: nobody (#57)
You're a zionist, which means you're an idiot. Thus, there's no point in discussing anything with you.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#60. To: nobody (#58)
I'm not going to entertain some zionist's public-relations-ploy delusions of morality, zionist.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#61. To: FOH (#59)
God is a "Zionist"
#62. To: nobody (#61)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#63. To: FOH (#60)
#64. To: FOH (#62)
#65. To: nobody (#64)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#66. To: FOH (#62)
Is He?
#67. To: nobody (#66)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#68. To: FOH (#65)
#69. To: nobody (#68)
You keep ducking the issue of the fundamental amorality of zionism.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#70. To: FOH (#67)
#71. To: nobody (#70)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#72. To: FOH (#69)
#73. To: FOH (#71)
(Edited)
#74. To: nobody (#72)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#75. To: nobody (#73)
Keep thinking your question hasn't been disposed of, zionist.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#76. To: FOH (#75)
#77. To: FOH (#75)
(Edited)
liberal atheist
#78. To: rowdee (#29)
Hey, Dawgie.........I'd give numbnutz a link to some stormfront organization, but he no doubt has them all already. Whada ya think?
#79. To: HOUNDDAWG (#78)
he probably got his feelings hurt over there
#80. To: HOUNDDAWG (#78)
The good news is, he won't be here for long.
#81. To: HOUNDDAWG (#78)
#82. To: FOH (#75)
liberal atheist
#83. To: FOH (#75)
#84. To: HOUNDDAWG (#78)
The good news is, he won't be here for long.
#85. To: FOH (#59)
If God is a "Zionist", then you can bet your last amero that I am one too.
#86. To: FOH (#75)
#87. To: FOH (#74)
Seriously, with God all things are possible, but YOU. YOU are a bound up piece of work.
#88. To: FOH (#74)
You're swinging at ghosts
#89. To: FOH (#48)
(Edited)
Listening to nobody talk about Christians is like being lectured to on pornography by Ted Bundy.
#90. To: HOUNDDAWG (#78)
#91. To: FOH, rowdee, HOUNDDAWG (#59)
(Edited)
Do you believe that God is a "Zionist"?
#92. To: rowdee (#27)
Buckeye, my apologies...
#93. To: rowdee (#25)
You should be more concerned with the likes of Wolfy, Rummy, Cheney, Condi, Perley, and any other neo-con bastard that ever came down the pike.
#94. To: FOH, rowdee, HOUNDDAWG (#91)
#95. To: rowdee (#90)
I had to step away for a few hours and return to see numbnutz still blathering his madness.
#96. To: rowdee (#24)
Dipwad......I am NOT in Hagee's corner, numbnutz! You're trying to make a case against him, so damn it do so--with FACTS, not your own personal opinion, which you somehow equate to 'facts'.
#97. To: buckeye (#92)
You raise some good points about facts in arguments.
#98. To: FOH (#67)
Yeah, right after you answer the question "Is God a "Zionist?"".
#99. To: nobody, thread (#96)
(Edited)
#100. To: FOH (#59)
Do you believe that God is a "Zionist"?
#101. To: FOH (#75)
There is no God (outside of you being your own god).
#102. To: noone222 (#99)
hegelian dialectic
#103. To: noone222 (#99)
(Edited)
#104. To: nobody (#38)
FOH
#105. To: JCHarris (#104)
#106. To: JCHarris (#104)
"international socialist committee of the anointed who will rule you because of their superiority and because its for your own good"
#107. To: FOH (#39)
God hater
#108. To: JCHarris (#104)
international socialist committee of the anointed
#109. To: JCHarris (#104)
#110. To: Hagee (#105)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#111. To: buckeye (#92)
No need. You raise some good points about facts in arguments. That's excellent advice for me.
#112. To: rowdee (#111)
#113. To: buckeye (#91)
(Edited)
I do see that America's constitution says nothing about the state of Israel.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#114. To: FOH (#111)
#115. To: JCHarris, nobody (#104)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#116. To: rowdee (#114)
basement bully tactics
#117. To: rowdee (#114)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#118. To: FOH (#115)
I support the sovereign State of Israel as much as I supported the sovereign State of Iraq and the sovereign State of the united States of America, etc. To say it's hilarious watching the muzzbots, atheists and followers of St. Augustine/Martin Luther/Adolf Hitler go on and on is an understatement though!
#119. To: nobody (#118)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#120. To: FOH (#113)
Sadly, most Christians (whether they're right, wrong or confused) would not get behind Ron Paul for lack of understanding.
#121. To: FOH (#119)
#122. To: FOH (#117)
#123. To: FOH (#119)
#124. To: rowdee (#120)
Its probably the case that most haven't heard of him.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#125. To: nobody (#121)
Tell everyone what a great guy Hagee is again.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#126. To: FOH (#124)
And I talked to thousands and THOUSANDS of them the last many months.
#127. To: rowdee (#120)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#128. To: nobody (#126)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#129. To: rowdee (#114)
It appears numbnutz has turned his basement bully tactics your way.....did you ever get an answer to a plain simple question you asked?
#130. To: nobody (#123)
Spotting zionist plants is just a hobby with me.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#131. To: aristeides (#0)
#132. To: HOUNDDAWG (#129)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#133. To: FOH (#130)
Is God a "Zionist"?
#134. To: FOH, rowdee (#127)
I supported Alan 20 years ago.
#135. To: nobody (#133)
Who gives a crap here about your ridiculous "God," besides you and rowdee?
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#136. To: FOH (#125)
Tell everyone what a great guy Hagee is again.
#137. To: FOH (#127)
He fell out of grace with me over time and with good reason.
#138. To: rowdee (#136)
Either way, won't make a difference---he/she/it will attempt to launch yet another bowel movement.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#139. To: HOUNDDAWG, rowdee (#134)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#140. To: HOUNDDAWG (#129)
#141. To: HOUNDDAWG (#134)
#142. To: FOH (#138)
#143. To: rowdee (#142)
I agree with you on both matters, FOH.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#144. To: FOH, rowdee (#139)
When it became Alan was nothing more than a PNAC-lite opportunist I parted company.
#145. To: HOUNDDAWG (#144)
#146. To: HOUNDDAWG, rowdee (#144)
Then we all agree.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#147. To: rowdee (#140)
Seems like you got em right as well. Wish he/she/its mommy would hurry with the meds.
#148. To: HOUNDDAWG (#147)
#149. To: HOUNDDAWG (#147)
That ol' ZOG is rearing its ugly head again!
#150. To: HOUNDDAWG (#147)
#151. To: FOH, rowdee, HOUNDDAWG (#113)
(Edited)
Sadly, most Christians (whether they're right, wrong or confused) would not get behind Ron Paul for lack of understanding.
#152. To: HOUNDDAWG (#147)
#153. To: buckeye (#151)
#154. To: buckeye (#151)
It seems that it's very difficult to forget one's cultural homeland
#155. To: rowdee (#153)
Get their asses home and on the borderS.
#156. To: buckeye (#155)
#157. To: rowdee (#156)
I ain't worried about 'them', buckeye..........I look to the highest authority, God. He's the one to worry about IMO.
#158. To: aristeides (#0)
(Edited)
The rest [of Jews] who are not driven by the Word of God have a liberal agenda.
#159. To: rowdee (#152)
ROTFLMAO! I can 'see' the steam pouring out of its ears, face contorted, and the blood vessels along the temple popping out, engorging themselves with blood as his demonic single cell grey mass has his stubby sausage-looking fingers just a poundin away at that keyboard as though the force of his strokes would compel you to read his garbage (accent over the second 'a', please--I'm feelin a bit frisky today) and respond!
#160. To: HOUNDDAWG (#159)
How much is that ZOGGY in the window, the one with the red pointed tail...."
#161. To: HOUNDDAWG (#144)
As Americans we're starved for leadership that speaks to our hearts
#162. To: HOUNDDAWG (#159)
#163. To: HOUNDDAWG (#159)
reminds me of the little boy in THE SIXTH SENSE:
#164. To: FOH (#135)
Take care bozo.
#165. To: FOH (#139)
#166. To: FOH (#138)
I will only suffer fools for so long
#167. To: HOUNDDAWG (#159)
#168. To: FOH (#128)
Did a priest get into your pants as a lad?
#169. To: nobody (#148)
Good job ignoring me, cartoon cretin.
#170. To: Ninpo (#169)
#171. To: nobody (#170)
Screw both of you clowns
#172. To: FOH (#39)
"Are you (a) variety God hater (except for Allah)?"
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