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Title: 40% of American Jews "not driven by the word of God," says McCain supporter John Hagee
Source: AMERICAblog
URL Source: http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/ ... n-jews-not-driven-by-word.html
Published: Mar 3, 2008
Author: John Aravosis
Post Date: 2008-03-03 16:08:34 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 3663
Comments: 172

40% of American Jews "not driven by the word of God," says McCain supporter John Hagee

by John Aravosis (DC) · 3/03/2008 12:12:00 PM ET

McCain supporter John Hagee:

I think if I could put a dividing line, the Orthodox and Conservatives who have a Torah appreciation give us wholehearted support. The rest [of Jews] who are not driven by the Word of God have a liberal agenda.

And the liberal agenda is they are pro-abortion. They're pro-homosexual. They're pro-gay marriage -- they want men to marry men and women to marry women -- and their difference with me is not really what I'm doing with Israel. Their hostility to me is poisoned by their liberalism. They take a liberal position that poisons their view of what we could be doing for Israel.

Note that a bit more than one-third of American Jews (around 41%, per the latest PEW survey) belong to the Reform (or "liberal," as Hagee would say) denomination of Judaism. More here.

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#111. To: buckeye (#92)

No need. You raise some good points about facts in arguments. That's excellent advice for me.

But I wouldn't call you Dipwad. :) You have always seemed reasonable and respond to questions when asked. You don't just throw flippin words around like the basement dweller to make yourself appear to be hip or in the know or whatever debased reason numbnutz has for flinging his shit around.

And you certainly don't act as though everyone in the forum is an adversary.

Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-03-04   12:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: rowdee (#111)

Loser-child, you sure think you are getting a lot of mileage out of pretending you sent your childish post to buckeye by mistake.

nobody  posted on  2008-03-04   12:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: buckeye (#91) (Edited)

I do see that America's constitution says nothing about the state of Israel.

I don't see it either, nor do I see any other nation mentioned.

Nor do I see where Christian-State World Dominance by force is found in the Bible.

The fact of the matter is, everyone has fault in this mess.

Sadly, most Christians (whether they're right, wrong or confused) would not get behind Ron Paul for lack of understanding.

It's not difficult to understand, for me at least.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-04   12:09:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: FOH (#111)

It appears numbnutz has turned his basement bully tactics your way.....did you ever get an answer to a plain simple question you asked?

Didn't think you would. Me neither...

At least even the newest of lurkers or readers will be able to follow the thread and see just how shallow or lame he/she/it is; that the same he/she/it doesn't want to discuss or debate or educate but rather wants to be seen as being hip or with it. I guess the basement is lonelier than usual of late.

Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-03-04   12:18:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: JCHarris, nobody (#104)

I support the sovereign State of Israel as much as I supported the sovereign State of Iraq and the sovereign State of the united States of America, etc. To say it's hilarious watching the muzzbots, atheists and followers of St. Augustine/Martin Luther/Adolf Hitler go on and on is an understatement though!

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-04   12:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: rowdee (#114)

basement bully tactics

translation: I nailed you two zionist to the wall.

nobody  posted on  2008-03-04   12:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: rowdee (#114)

Oh well...it's nobody.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-04   12:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: FOH (#115)

I support the sovereign State of Israel as much as I supported the sovereign State of Iraq and the sovereign State of the united States of America, etc. To say it's hilarious watching the muzzbots, atheists and followers of St. Augustine/Martin Luther/Adolf Hitler go on and on is an understatement though!

Suggested title: "Study of yet another wilt-leaf zionist plant protesting too much."

nobody  posted on  2008-03-04   12:21:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: nobody (#118)

LOLOL!

Tell Adolf what a fan you are when you get there.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-04   12:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: FOH (#113)

Sadly, most Christians (whether they're right, wrong or confused) would not get behind Ron Paul for lack of understanding.

Its probably the case that most haven't heard of him.

Back around 1999 or 2000, when I was posting at tos1, I had a friend over in Washington state who was also a supporter of Alan Keyes.

She related the story about how no one where she worked knew who he was--not even the black men or women. I'm sure there some racists that would have some smart-assed remarks re this, but it would fly in the face of the fact that blacks have always been looking for leaders, someone they can look up to as one of theirs.

Whether one likes Keyes or not, he is very intelligent, he is well spoken. He isn't shy about speaking up or out---and yet none of them knew who he was.

Once they were given transcripts or a video of some of his speeches, they were ticked that they, their families, and their friends, had been shut off from knowing anything about the guy.

Not everyone is all gung ho in politics like most of us here; not everyone has cable or satellite; not everyone reads full articles, if they take the newspaper, but IIRC, research has shown they generally read the first few paragraphs to get a feel for the story and move on.

They're involved in job(s), church, school, their families and their childrens activities.

Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-03-04   12:35:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: FOH (#119)

Tell everyone what a great guy Hagee is again.

nobody  posted on  2008-03-04   12:35:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: FOH (#117)

He/she/it couldn't have picked a more appropriate screen name.

Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-03-04   12:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: FOH (#119)

Spotting zionist plants is just a hobby with me.

nobody  posted on  2008-03-04   12:38:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: rowdee (#120)

Its probably the case that most haven't heard of him.

Actually, most HAD heard of him in my goings on. And I talked to thousands and THOUSANDS of them the last many months.

"Must Win The WAR"

"Ron Paul is against Israel"

Those are the two most common replies from actual Bible believers...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-04   12:39:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: nobody (#121)

Tell everyone what a great guy Hagee is again.

Ok. Right after you first show me where I said that Hagee is a great guy.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-04   12:40:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: FOH (#124)

And I talked to thousands and THOUSANDS of them the last many months.

"Must Win The WAR"

"Ron Paul is against Israel"

Whatever sounds good to an obvious zionist plant, in other words. Kudos on getting yourself so deeply embedded that you have such remarkable access.

nobody  posted on  2008-03-04   12:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: rowdee (#120)

I supported Alan 20 years ago.

He fell out of grace with me over time and with good reason.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-04   12:42:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: nobody (#126)

You might be a candidate for a big hug.

Did a priest get into your pants as a lad?

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-04   12:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: rowdee (#114)

It appears numbnutz has turned his basement bully tactics your way.....did you ever get an answer to a plain simple question you asked?

Didn't think you would. Me neither...

At least even the newest of lurkers or readers will be able to follow the thread and see just how shallow or lame he/she/it is; that the same he/she/it doesn't want to discuss or debate or educate but rather wants to be seen as being hip or with it. I guess the basement is lonelier than usual of late.

HAH!

You sure have nobrains' number! He lives in his mom's basement and issues orders for his other shock troops and storm troopers, and his powerful oratory and rants earned him the respect of all the other cottage residents in rehab, and will someday make him a legend on his cellblock!

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And, if you've read one of his lunatic ravings, you've read them all!

*nobrains* "You know who made you say that, Hmmmm? ZOG! ZOG ZOG ZOG ZOG ZOG!

Oh, Old MacDonald had a farm ZEE OH, ZOO OH GEE! Precious bodily fluids! OH, MOM, where's my medicine? You know what happens if I don't take my medicine! I hate you! AHHHHHHHHHH"

HAH!

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HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-04   12:43:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: nobody (#123)

Spotting zionist plants is just a hobby with me.

Is God a "Zionist"?

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-04   12:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: aristeides (#0)

Zionists are drawn to US politics like child molestors are drawn to the boy scouts.

nobody  posted on  2008-03-04   12:43:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: HOUNDDAWG (#129)

heheheheh

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FOH  posted on  2008-03-04   12:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: FOH (#130)

Is God a "Zionist"?

Who gives a crap here about your ridiculous "God," besides you and rowdee? I want to know the posting names of all those pervs.

nobody  posted on  2008-03-04   12:47:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: FOH, rowdee (#127)

I supported Alan 20 years ago.

He fell out of grace with me over time and with good reason.

Same here. He started to sound a little too much like a religious fundie who'd codify his beliefs into federal law if he could.

But, when I first heard him speak years ago he really wowed me. He even made a joke about how his alma mater Harvard wouldn't be too quick to claim him anymore because his politics are antithetical to their star players' views.

And, when he attempted to crash the debate in Atlanta (League Of Noisy Voters I think it was) I thought that he lost more than he gained from it.

Which is exactly why Ron Paul didn't challenge the results in New Hampshire. The results would have been a net loss because the only publicity he would get would be bad. Some folks believe that the great unwashed can read between the lines but that simply isn't true, and it's always a mistake to open the door for O'Reilly and Hannity to savage a candidate.

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HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-04   12:53:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: nobody (#133)

Who gives a crap here about your ridiculous "God," besides you and rowdee?

That is all. Take care bozo.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-04   12:56:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: FOH (#125)

Tell everyone what a great guy Hagee is again.

Ok. Right after you first show me where I said that Hagee is a great guy.

Oh shit!!! There you go again......details, details, details!! Or should I say, FACTS, FACTS, FACTS!

Either way, won't make a difference---he/she/it will attempt to launch yet another bowel movement.

Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-03-04   12:58:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: FOH (#127)

He fell out of grace with me over time and with good reason.

Likewise here.

Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-03-04   12:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: rowdee (#136)

Either way, won't make a difference---he/she/it will attempt to launch yet another bowel movement.

I truly feel sorry for the God haters, because a)they're miserable as can be and b)they're going to hell if nothing changes.

However, I will only suffer fools for so long...I'm too busy to have enough time on here or anywhere else to suffer fools.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-04   13:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: HOUNDDAWG, rowdee (#134)

When it became Alan was nothing more than a PNAC-lite opportunist I parted company.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-04   13:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: HOUNDDAWG (#129)

Seems like you got em right as well. Wish he/she/its mommy would hurry with the meds.

Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-03-04   13:02:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: HOUNDDAWG (#134)

I personally was glad to see that Ron didn't expend any time over the reuslts in NH. The rabid jackals like limbaugh, hannity, ingraham, etc., live for moments such as that so they can savage them, as you say. One might as well sit strapped into a chair, with a bullseye hung on your chest.

I didn't like it that the results were questionable, but you have to pick and choose your battles.

When I ran for office, my opponent was a drug using alcoholic. I dare not have spoken out about that--thats unfair in the minds of many voters-- but I knew the liberal rag would have been all over me like ugly on an ape with comments from 'people' in the district.......a perfect smear campaign on me with quotes from the selected ones--like union agents, school teachers, and the like.

You have to play with the cards dealt you--at least for a bit.

Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-03-04   13:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: FOH (#138)

I agree with you on both matters, FOH.

Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-03-04   13:13:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: rowdee (#142)

I agree with you on both matters, FOH.

Well then, that means we're both either right or wrong! ;)

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FOH  posted on  2008-03-04   13:25:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: FOH, rowdee (#139)

When it became Alan was nothing more than a PNAC-lite opportunist I parted company.

Then we all agree.

As Americans we're starved for leadership that speaks to our hearts, and Alan was really good for a while until it was time to make a choice.

He sided with Harvard/Israel/PNAC/perpetual imperialism after all.

And, he of all people, Mr. "Tell It Like It Is and Let The Chips Fall Where They May" folded like an accordion, and it was ever so obvious that he compromised his morals to avoid the consequences of truth.

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HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-04   13:27:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: HOUNDDAWG (#144)

Yessir.

I nearly gagged when he and dershowitz were going to go at it over torture to find that he was all for torture, that their argument was the degree or type.

Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-03-04   13:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: HOUNDDAWG, rowdee (#144)

Then we all agree.

A good note to break on!

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FOH  posted on  2008-03-04   13:34:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: rowdee (#140)

Seems like you got em right as well. Wish he/she/its mommy would hurry with the meds.

If you check out the latest comments page you'll see that he frantically hammered out seven consecutive posts to someone who won't even read his dew dew! How rude eye yam! Photobucket

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He's the kind of troll who thinks he can actually bully someone over the internet into stepping into piles of his shit! (As if everyone else is obsessive-compulsive and hears voices "zog, zog ZOG!")

So, you see what I mean when I say that I know his little secret?

After seven attempts to get a DAWG to eat broccoli, you think he'd give up!

The other obvious message here is, sadly, this is the type of personality (that we read about all too often) who predictably abuses women, children and small animals because he doesn't dare try to bully real men face to face, and "sounding tall" over the net just doesn't prop up the ailing ego enough. Also, please note that there's been no mention of his family because no self respecting woman would have anything to do with him, and (even if he wasn't impotent and living in Mommy's basement) they certainly wouldn't bear his children!

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He just can't take a hint!

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Seven neurotic (and unread) troll posts in a row! Itz a new internet record!" HAH!

Now, Ms. Dee, I read nothing he writes and he's anxiously waiting to pounce on everything I post. So I ask you, who's in control? Photobucket

That ol' ZOG is rearing its ugly head again!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!

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HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-04   15:55:16 ET  (5 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: HOUNDDAWG (#147)

Good job ignoring me, cartoon cretin.

nobody  posted on  2008-03-04   15:56:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: HOUNDDAWG (#147)

That ol' ZOG is rearing its ugly head again!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!

Cretin denies existence of ZOG. News at 11.

nobody  posted on  2008-03-04   15:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: HOUNDDAWG (#147)

"The cartoonier your posts get, the zionister you look."

nobody  posted on  2008-03-04   15:59:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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