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Title: American crime victims of illegal aliens
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Published: Mar 6, 2008
Author: 'tube
Post Date: 2008-03-06 20:45:46 by Jethro Tull
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#8. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Touching video. Next, you might want to make a video of American crime victims perpetuated by your brutal bratten - the police. I somehow believe that the video would be much longer and horrors much greater.

gord  posted on  2008-03-06   21:37:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: gord (#8)

Go f**k yourself, prick. The day an invader can't be blown up by a cop, or a citizen, is the day I pack it in. So, let me repeat. I'd be THRILLED to put one in each and every illegal alien's head, and anyone else who steps up to defend them. Jump and and get some if you have a pair of nuts.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-03-06   23:00:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#9)

Go f**k yourself, prick. The day an invader can't be blown up by a cop, or a citizen, is the day I pack it in. So, let me repeat. I'd be THRILLED to put one in each and evry illegal alien's head, and anyone else who steps up to defend them. Jump and and get some if you have a pair of nuts.

Yes, the situation is dire. But not because the aliens - it's because scam like you (the police). 80% of alien crime is connected to drugs. And we all know that 50% of ALL drug money goes to pieces of shit like you and your enablers. So you guys are doing great, do you, with all those drug realated aliens. And for you personaly, you are nothing more than a genocidal thug getting leged by somebody, and now out of the game... and the money. And that is what make you mad.

I personaly agree that ALL illegal aliens shouldd be deported. But I also am waiting the day when thugs like you are put where belongs - to jails. Unfortunately, I will die waiting - it's so much drug money in the play that there's practicaly no chance you and the politicians which covers you (the police) get busted any time soon. BTW, I still believe that more of murders, rapes, etc. in USA is done by American police than by Mexican immigrants.

gord  posted on  2008-03-06   23:30:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: gord, Jethro Tull (#11) (Edited)

Yes, the situation is dire. But not because the aliens - it's because scam like you (the police). 80% of alien crime is connected to drugs. And we all know that 50% of ALL drug money goes to pieces of shit like you and your enablers.

how in god's name can you view this video and see the statistics of the murders of innocent Americans by ILLEGALS--get that? ILLEGAL VIOLENT CRIMINALS and then claim it's because of the police? then to personally attack, with outrageous erroneous accusations another poster, for his expression of righteous anger and desire for justice for these 48,000 innocent victims???

why don't you try putting the face of one your children up there and see if that doesn't open your eyes?

christine  posted on  2008-03-07   1:21:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: christine (#13)

how in god's name can you view this video and see the statistics of the murders of innocent Americans by ILLEGALS--get that? ILLEGAL VIOLENT CRIMINALS and then claim it's because of the police? then to personally attack, with outrageous erroneous accusations another poster, for his expression of righteous anger and desire for justice for these 48,000 innocent victims???

Mexican aliens are here because American politicians allowed them to come and stay illegally. And there's no signs that will change. In that aspect, innocent victims are victims of official American politics.

We know that 80% of violent crimes are connected to drugs. We also know that CIA is the worlds biggest drug cartel, with police on all levels being their runners. In that aspect, innocent victims are victims of the police.

It shouldn't be that way. If politicians decide that illegal aliens are to be deported, and if police enforce that decision, then in a 3 short weeks there will be no illegal immigrants in America. Simply as that. But will not happen that way and many more innocent American will became victims.

gord  posted on  2008-03-07   10:48:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: gord (#24)

Mexican aliens are here because American politicians allowed them to come and stay illegally. And there's no signs that will change. In that aspect, innocent victims are victims of official American politics.

i can't argue with you there, however, i do take issue with your broadbrushing of police. do you know that much of law enforcement, including border patrol agents, are 'handcuffed' by government officials when it comes to dealing with these illegals? i give you the case of agents Ramos and Compean as an example.

in your post above to Jethro Tull, you blamed the police for the crimes perpetrated by these illegals. that's wrong. the illegals are the lawbreakers, not the police. in this instance, correlation does not imply causation.

christine  posted on  2008-03-07   13:36:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: christine (#37)

in your post above to Jethro Tull, you blamed the police for the crimes perpetrated by these illegals. that's wrong. the illegals are the lawbreakers, not the police. in this instance, correlation does not imply causation.

Yes, I'm blaming the police, but only partially. I'm blaming the American policies also.

See, when you have rotten teeth in your mouth, the pain comes shortly after. You could treat the pain, but it will come back. You have to repair the teeth in order for pain to stop.

Police and immigrants are just pain. What's needed is to repair American policies. Then,the immigrants will go home, drugs will not be in the game, and the police will be what it's supposed to be - a force that will serve and protect.

That's in short why I'm blaming police and immigrants equally.

gord  posted on  2008-03-07   13:51:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: gord (#39)

What's needed is to repair American policies.

you are absolutely right.

christine  posted on  2008-03-07   18:09:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: christine (#43)

You are absolutely right

Unfortunately, your admission is begging for further explanations. I will now try to explain why Jethro Tull is the worst of the worst. Of course, Jethro Tull , you and anyone else who read this reply are free to state their opinions about me and my positions. I will even encourage anyone to participate - your opinions are welcome and will be treated with respect over here.

When you're a victim of a violent crime, you suffer regardless of who did it. If you are a single American mom of three, raped and killed together with your children by Mexican thugs or if you are a single Mexican mom, raped and killed together with children by American thugs, there's no difference from the standpoint of the crime statistics and the pain that's left for families and friends to cope with. And there's an incredible amount of violent crimes perpetuated every year in the USA: Mexicans on Americans, Americans on Mexicans, Mexicans on Mexicans, Americans on Americans, Mexicans on Others, Others on Mexicans, Americans on Others, Others on Americans...and so on, and so on, and so on.

The question is how you, in good consciousness, could separate Mexican on American violent crimes from other ones? You can't. Except if you have something on your mind.

Jethro Tull did exactly that. Not just that, but he states that he has no problem to fill Mexican people who are in the US illegally,but are otherwise innocent people, with bullets. And not just on this occasion - reading his posts I find that killing people is like a thin red line in most of his post/replies. That and his hatred towards 'brown people'. Do you recognize the pattern? Hint: who not just allowed a whole city (predominately black) to die (New Orleans), but also sent down Blackwater mercenaries to kill at will?

After I pointed out that he's unjustly very heavy handed in his posts and replies. He threatened me and tried to invoke a racial card. Do you recognize the pattern? Hint: who is playing a racial card all the time?

Now, you could have a more sense of the positions where Jethro Tull is lurking from. You also could learn something about his ethics and honor ability. And he being a policeman, you could conclude a lot about the US police.

gord  posted on  2008-03-07   19:54:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: gord, Jethro Tull (#44)

JT is retired since 1983 from NYPD. Apparently you've not gone back far enough in reading his posts. If you had, you would see that you would not find a more vocal critic of the current crop of police in this country. You know little about him and are making judgments about who he is and what he's done based on his posts expressing his outrage over the invasion of this country from illegals--a large majority who have a militant take over agenda and who mean us harm. Imo, he and we have every right to want to defend and protect our own against enemies and, yes, that sometimes means violence.

christine  posted on  2008-03-07   20:18:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: christine (#46)

You know little about him and are making judgments about who he is and what he's done based on his posts expressing his outrage over the invasion of this country from illegals--a large majority who have a militant take over agenda and who mean us harm.

You and I agree that the core of the problem are 'American policies'. Racism in general and killing Mexicans in particular will remedy nothing.

Above, I aptly suggested to Jethro Tull, that...

[quote] Maybe, just maybe, you could direct your obsession to the people who allowed aliens in, people who keep them in and people who resist any idea to deport them out. [/quote]

He didn't answer. He's apparently not interested in solutions, he's interested in killing. I can't interpret his posts in this thread any other way. In his last post, even he admits that killing is what he's craving.

However, you are still keeping his water. Unfortunately, your defense of him is unsubstantiated. Try to put some arguments on the table, not just blind 'believe my on my word'.

gord  posted on  2008-03-07   21:02:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#50. To: gord (#49)

Bump to #48, gordo.....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-03-07 21:11:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: gord (#49)

please direct your questions and answers to Jethro. i will say this. he and i are long time friends. i know his character and he is a man of integrity whom i'd trust completely watching my back. there are very few people in my life that i could say that about.

christine  posted on  2008-03-07 21:20:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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