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Published: Mar 6, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-03-06 20:45:46 by Jethro Tull
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#15. To: Elliott Jackalope (#14)
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With no way to make a living, the vast majority of illegals will get the idea and self deport. The rest can be deported over time as they run afoul of the law and end up getting arrested for various crimes. Over 20 years ago a buddy of mine received comp tickets from his employer (a retirement home for filthy rich captains of industry) to attend a $300 per plate dinner at the DuPont Hotel, and the guest speaker was George Will. (He was a conservo media darling during the Reagan years) Will said that in the future our main problem will be inflation, and the answer to the problem will be cheap labor provided by massive 3rd world immigration. Now, he was speaking to a room of mostly wealthy DE PUB industrialists. So, he was telling them 20 yrs ahead of time that in order to stretch and therefore enjoy their swindled and shrinking "dollars" ($=frauds) the "solution" (cure) to Americans demanding ever increasing wages to maintain their standard of living was to hire people who live thirty to a house and wire the money South of the border, where greenbax are still a precious gift from some pueblo saint, like El Nini De Atocha! It's no accident that in 2005 (last year records are available) there were zero prosecutions for hiring illegals.
No government (federal/state/city/county) benefits for anybody who's arrived here here in the last 30 years. BAM! there's your funding to round up the illegals. The flaw is that my solution doesn't require a leviathan government agency employing eleventy-billion slack-jawed affirmative-action flunkies to "administer" it..... P.S. One of my senators, Sen. John Cornyn (R) Texas, sent me a form with a postage-paid envelope asking for a contribution. I scribbled "the border with mexico is wide open and we're being invaded by mexicons - FUCK YOU!!" and mailed it to him.
"Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, you should never wish to do less." - Robert E. Lee
Perfect ... I do the same ... fuck these traitors.
And the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the purpose of enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder their people, are among the greatest villains that the world has ever seen. And they as much deserve to be hunted and killed (if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave traders, robbers, or pirates that ever lived. ... Lysander Spooner
Elliott, your solution assumes that the reason for the invasion is economic. That's partially true, but the larger fact is that the creation of the NAU is the ultimate goal. This will be accomplished, seamlessly, when America is well sprinkled w/illegals. Today, as you know, large tracts of the SW have fallen to the enemy. The Mexican flag has replaced the American flag on buildings. The peso is the currency of choice and English is a 2nd language. The Reconquista is in overdrive, and additional layers of laws slapped on employers aren't the answer. Personally, I've had enough. I'd have no problem with a redeployment of our military on the border with orders to shoot to kill. Same w/the police, border guards, etc. The threat of being shot would stop the flood cold in six months. Others can tinker with our political system in hopes of a solution, but I've long ago given up on potential solutions from these traitors.
There are idiots and mean pricks in any professions, judge by the person bub. The people like cops and firemen, lay their asses on the line everyday for us, everyday ! Why don't you just flash on back to the weeks after 911, and think about those cops and fireman dying of lung desease. What's your noble profession ?
treasonous anti-american bastard!
P.S. One of my senators, Sen. John Cornyn (R) Texas, sent me a form with a postage-paid envelope asking for a contribution. I scribbled "the border with mexico is wide open and we're being invaded by mexicons - FUCK YOU!!" and mailed it to him. right on, X
right on, X Thinking outside the box explains the unexplainable. The Zionist-controlled federal government, together with the indispensable help of the Electric Jew, has legitimized the genocidal war against Israel's enemies in the Muslim neighborhood while ensuring the floodgates for foreign invasion stay open, even after the 9/11 atrocity. The invaders will provide cannon folder for the military machine to continue the genocidal war and, if necessary, provide the police force to march rebellious patriots to the gulags, which are already in place across the country. Welcome to hard times, America. Zionism is America's form of national suicide, is her idolatry, is her insanity. Jewish supremacy is its cult.
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
Mexican aliens are here because American politicians allowed them to come and stay illegally. And there's no signs that will change. In that aspect, innocent victims are victims of official American politics. We know that 80% of violent crimes are connected to drugs. We also know that CIA is the worlds biggest drug cartel, with police on all levels being their runners. In that aspect, innocent victims are victims of the police. It shouldn't be that way. If politicians decide that illegal aliens are to be deported, and if police enforce that decision, then in a 3 short weeks there will be no illegal immigrants in America. Simply as that. But will not happen that way and many more innocent American will became victims.
Today, police is the most corrupted force in the USA. Claims that they lay their asses on the line for us are laughable. It is said that 30-50% of prison population is innocent. Think about it. All they know is to collect drug money and to frame innocent people.
Spoken like someone who has never been robbed, assaulted or had a fire, I presume.
If you have been robbed, etc. you would know that pigs always arrive just on time to count dead bodies. If happen they arrive early, then they wait for show to be finished - then they count the bodies.
I have been robbed, assaulted, and had many fires. I worked nights in the Hospitality industry for many years. The only times cops have arrived after death was twice in Flagstaff, an overdosed guest and an older guest who could not take the thinner air. I appreciated the help both times. May you continue to have a peaceful life.
Are you an American? What country are you from?
Pitting one part of humanity against the other by calling one worse because they have more skin pigmentation is evil and mud dumb. No part of the human species is better then the other. I can understand not liking one culture as much as your own, but know that to hate every member of another racial classification because you hate the way they look is not defensible.
I spent last night reading your posts and comments. It seems that you're OBSESSED with idea of filling people with bullets. Maybe, just maybe, you could direct your obsession to the people who allowed aliens in, people who keep them in and people who resist any idea to deport them out.
Nobody "allowed" them in, were talkin about illegals who snuck in. I don't know of anyone keeping them here. The people resisting the idea to deport, should be shot ALSO. Thanks, I'll go for that. Good idea.
I also spent some time reading your posts. Your fractured English indicates to
me you aren't American and/or are from a foreign country. Am I correct?
Christine, your comments are dully noted. However, I'm little surprised that your critique goes just one way. For instance this passage... [quote] Go f**k yourself, prick. The day an invader can't be blown up by a cop, or a citizen, is the day I pack it in. So, let me repeat. I'd be THRILLED to put one in each and every illegal alien's head, and anyone else who steps up to defend them. Jump and and get some if you have a pair of nuts. [/quote} ... is a death treat to me. Repeat: a death treat. In this and other discussions I'm stating my positions. They may or may not be popular, but I'm standing behind them. Being an honest man, I do change my opinions when contra arguments prove that I'm wrong. But death treats?
Well, you apparently can't contra argument my arguments. So what are you doing instead: 1. utter death treats 2. invoke he racial card Oh boy, you're even more disturbed person than I though.
"It is said that 30-50% of prison population is innocent. Think about it. All they know is to collect drug money and to frame innocent people." You don't offer any "facts" to dispute or any sources. you defame a profession without naming your own. This whole board is people DISCUSSING opposition arguments. It gets hot and heavy. Don't whine to Momma.
i can't argue with you there, however, i do take issue with your broadbrushing of police. do you know that much of law enforcement, including border patrol agents, are 'handcuffed' by government officials when it comes to dealing with these illegals? i give you the case of agents Ramos and Compean as an example. in your post above to Jethro Tull, you blamed the police for the crimes perpetrated by these illegals. that's wrong. the illegals are the lawbreakers, not the police. in this instance, correlation does not imply causation.
threat.....it's threat "Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, you should never wish to do less." - Robert E. Lee
Yes, I'm blaming the police, but only partially. I'm blaming the American policies also. See, when you have rotten teeth in your mouth, the pain comes shortly after. You could treat the pain, but it will come back. You have to repair the teeth in order for pain to stop. Police and immigrants are just pain. What's needed is to repair American policies. Then,the immigrants will go home, drugs will not be in the game, and the police will be what it's supposed to be - a force that will serve and protect. That's in short why I'm blaming police and immigrants equally.
Don't be too harsh on me. I'm an old man that is beginning to have problems with spelling, pronunciation and language in general due to Parkinson disease. I'm satisfied if you and others understand my points.
A thousand pardons from me, I attributed it to carelessness.
"Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, you should never wish to do less." - Robert E. Lee
Right. But, to him and others of his ilk patriotism is just another fundie religion for poor, stupid, superstitious people. His only loyalty is to his paymasters.
you are absolutely right.
Unfortunately, your admission is begging for further explanations. I will now try to explain why Jethro Tull is the worst of the worst. Of course, Jethro Tull , you and anyone else who read this reply are free to state their opinions about me and my positions. I will even encourage anyone to participate - your opinions are welcome and will be treated with respect over here. When you're a victim of a violent crime, you suffer regardless of who did it. If you are a single American mom of three, raped and killed together with your children by Mexican thugs or if you are a single Mexican mom, raped and killed together with children by American thugs, there's no difference from the standpoint of the crime statistics and the pain that's left for families and friends to cope with. And there's an incredible amount of violent crimes perpetuated every year in the USA: Mexicans on Americans, Americans on Mexicans, Mexicans on Mexicans, Americans on Americans, Mexicans on Others, Others on Mexicans, Americans on Others, Others on Americans...and so on, and so on, and so on. The question is how you, in good consciousness, could separate Mexican on American violent crimes from other ones? You can't. Except if you have something on your mind. Jethro Tull did exactly that. Not just that, but he states that he has no problem to fill Mexican people who are in the US illegally,but are otherwise innocent people, with bullets. And not just on this occasion - reading his posts I find that killing people is like a thin red line in most of his post/replies. That and his hatred towards 'brown people'. Do you recognize the pattern? Hint: who not just allowed a whole city (predominately black) to die (New Orleans), but also sent down Blackwater mercenaries to kill at will? After I pointed out that he's unjustly very heavy handed in his posts and replies. He threatened me and tried to invoke a racial card. Do you recognize the pattern? Hint: who is playing a racial card all the time? Now, you could have a more sense of the positions where Jethro Tull is lurking from. You also could learn something about his ethics and honor ability. And he being a policeman, you could conclude a lot about the US police.
It's easy. I am a white man of Celtic/German ancestry. My IQ was tested at 126 at 12 years old. I do not rape, murder or steal. The average African IQ is 70. Retarded. It's why Africa is a basket case. It's full of Africans. The average Mexican IQ is 89 -- slightly above moron (85 or less). Mexico is in the shape it is in because it is full of Mexicans. We have enough problems in this country as it is. Why import trouble? By the way, I am a racist and I do not consider blacks or Mexicans anywhere near my equal. So don't bother with the "racist" bullshit, or any liberal-loony bullshit about "there is only one race -- the human race." That dog quit hunting a long time ago.
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
JT is retired since 1983 from NYPD. Apparently you've not gone back far enough in reading his posts. If you had, you would see that you would not find a more vocal critic of the current crop of police in this country. You know little about him and are making judgments about who he is and what he's done based on his posts expressing his outrage over the invasion of this country from illegals--a large majority who have a militant take over agenda and who mean us harm. Imo, he and we have every right to want to defend and protect our own against enemies and, yes, that sometimes means violence.
Defensive Racism: An Unapologetic Examination of Racial Differences Methodically constructing the case for acknowledging the racial differences embedded in our DNA, to which he refers as “culture gone to seed,” Steele blows the cover off the conspiracy for the New World Order which is turning America into a police state and rendering her electoral process meaningless. As the world relentlessly marches into World War III, the plans of the elite for America’s subjugation to third-world status will falter, with America breaking apart along racial lines. Steele conjures the vision of a New America, rising Phoenix-like from the ashes and resurrecting the principles of liberty and personal freedom upon which she originally was founded, all the while charting a clear, easy to follow path for the individual through the coming chaos. Bold, powerful and persuasive, Defensive Racism weaves a compelling argument to deal with racial differences we all recognize, yet pretend not to notice.
gord, you've yet to tell us if you are an American, posting from America. Are you embarrassed about who you are and where you live?
You and I agree that the core of the problem are 'American policies'. Racism in general and killing Mexicans in particular will remedy nothing. Above, I aptly suggested to Jethro Tull, that... [quote] Maybe, just maybe, you could direct your obsession to the people who allowed aliens in, people who keep them in and people who resist any idea to deport them out. [/quote] He didn't answer. He's apparently not interested in solutions, he's interested in killing. I can't interpret his posts in this thread any other way. In his last post, even he admits that killing is what he's craving. However, you are still keeping his water. Unfortunately, your defense of him is unsubstantiated. Try to put some arguments on the table, not just blind 'believe my on my word'.
Bump to #48, gordo.....
I understand your positions and accept them, and have no problems with them. We all are racist here and there. What I do object is your fate that killing Mexicans will solve all problems. Well, it will not. If you want Mexicans to go away, you have to change 'American policies'(once they're out they stay out). Something you're apparently not considering as a solution. The problem is that you like 'American policies' as they are, you just hate Mexicans (and others too). Sad.
please direct your questions and answers to Jethro. i will say this. he and i are long time friends. i know his character and he is a man of integrity whom i'd trust completely watching my back. there are very few people in my life that i could say that about.
Cristine, my admiration for you is sincere and deep. And I do trust you too. Ergo, I will buy what you're selling. My apologies if I caused any bad fillings. It was not my intention. I'm considering this affair finished and behind us.
thank you. i appreciate that.
We don't need a wall to deal with illegals, and we don't need violence or more draconian laws either. What we DO need are serious laws with serious penalties that go after the EMPLOYERS of illegals, and we need to provide adequate funding to agencies that would enforce those laws. Once the first couple of hundred employers of illegals are busted HARD and hit with MAJOR penalties and even jail time, the rest of the employers of illegals will finally get the message and fire their illegal workers. And if you REALLY want to make some major headway then offer rewards to citizens who turn in those who employ illegals, the same way that we reward those who turn in those who avoid income taxes.
#16. To: Elliott Jackalope (#14)
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What we DO need are serious laws with serious penalties that go after the EMPLOYERS of illegals, and we need to provide adequate funding to agencies that would enforce those laws.
#17. To: X-15 (#16)
I scribbled "the border with mexico is wide open and we're being invaded by mexicons - FUCK YOU!!" and mailed it to him.
#18. To: Elliott Jackalope, christine (#14)
We don't need a wall to deal with illegals, and we don't need violence or more draconian laws either. What we DO need are serious laws with serious penalties that go after the EMPLOYERS of illegals, and we need to provide adequate funding to agencies that would enforce those laws.
#19. To: HOUNDDAWG, all (#15)
George Will - another conservative raised by socialists.
#20. To: gord (#8)
"...your brutal bratten - the police"
#21. To: HOUNDDAWG (#15)
and the answer to the problem will be cheap labor provided by massive 3rd world immigration.
#22. To: X-15 (#16)
No government (federal/state/city/county) benefits for anybody who's arrived here here in the last 30 years. BAM! there's your funding to round up the illegals. The flaw is that my solution doesn't require a leviathan government agency employing eleventy-billion slack-jawed affirmative-action flunkies to "administer" it.....
#23. To: christine, X-15 (#22)
No government (federal/state/city/county) benefits for anybody who's arrived here here in the last 30 years. BAM! there's your funding to round up the illegals. The flaw is that my solution doesn't require a leviathan government agency employing eleventy-billion slack-jawed affirmative-action flunkies to "administer" it..... P.S. One of my senators, Sen. John Cornyn (R) Texas, sent me a form with a postage-paid envelope asking for a contribution. I scribbled "the border with mexico is wide open and we're being invaded by mexicons - FUCK YOU!!" and mailed it to him.
#24. To: christine (#13)
how in god's name can you view this video and see the statistics of the murders of innocent Americans by ILLEGALS--get that? ILLEGAL VIOLENT CRIMINALS and then claim it's because of the police? then to personally attack, with outrageous erroneous accusations another poster, for his expression of righteous anger and desire for justice for these 48,000 innocent victims???
#25. To: castletrash (#20)
The people like cops and firemen, lay their asses on the line everyday for us, everyday !
#26. To: gord (#25)
Claims that they lay their asses on the line for us are laughable.
#27. To: castletrash (#26)
Spoken like someone who has never been robbed, assaulted or had a fire, I presume.
#28. To: gord (#27)
" ..f you have been robbed, etc.....then they wait for show to be finished - then they count the bodies."
#29. To: gord (#27)
If happen they arrive early, then they wait for show to be finished - then they count the bodies.
#30. To: YertleTurtle (#1)
"And we've got dumbass leftist morons here who think we can't seal the borders. Or shouldn't, to keep out inferior races."
Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggy, till you find a large rock.
#31. To: Jethro Tull (#29)
So, let me repeat. I'd be THRILLED to put one in each and every illegal alien's head, and anyone else who steps up to defend them. Jump and and get some if you have a pair of nuts.
#32. To: gord (#31)
" the people who allowed aliens in, people who keep them in and people who resist any idea to deport them out."
#33. To: gord (#31)
#34. To: christine (#13)
...then to personally attack, with outrageous erroneous accusations another poster, for his expression of righteous anger and desire for justice...
#35. To: Jethro Tull (#33)
I also spent some time reading your posts. Your fractured English indicates to me you aren't American and/or are from a foreign country. Am I correct?
#36. To: gord (#25)
"..We know that 80% of violent crimes are connected to drugs. We also know that CIA is the worlds biggest drug cartel, with police on all levels being their runners. In that aspect, innocent victims are victims of the police."
#37. To: gord (#24)
Mexican aliens are here because American politicians allowed them to come and stay illegally. And there's no signs that will change. In that aspect, innocent victims are victims of official American politics.
#38. To: gord (#34)
... is a death treat to me. Repeat: a death treat.
#39. To: christine (#37)
in your post above to Jethro Tull, you blamed the police for the crimes perpetrated by these illegals. that's wrong. the illegals are the lawbreakers, not the police. in this instance, correlation does not imply causation.
#40. To: X-15 (#38)
threat.....it's threat
#41. To: gord (#40)
#42. To: christine (#21)
treasonous anti-american bastard!
#43. To: gord (#39)
What's needed is to repair American policies.
#44. To: christine (#43)
You are absolutely right
#45. To: gord (#44)
(Edited)
The question is how you, in good consciousness, could separate Mexican on American violent crimes from other ones? You can't. Except if you have something on your mind.
#46. To: gord, Jethro Tull (#44)
#47. To: gord (#44)
#48. To: gord (#44)
#49. To: christine (#46)
You know little about him and are making judgments about who he is and what he's done based on his posts expressing his outrage over the invasion of this country from illegals--a large majority who have a militant take over agenda and who mean us harm.
#50. To: gord (#49)
#51. To: YertleTurtle (#45)
By the way, I am a racist and I do not consider blacks or Mexicans anywhere near my equal. So don't bother with the "racist" bullshit, or any liberal-loony bullshit about "there is only one race -- the human race." That dog quit hunting a long time ago.
#52. To: gord (#49)
#53. To: christine (#52)
i will say this. he and i are long time friends. i know his character and he is a man of integrity whom i'd trust completely watching my back. there are very few people in my life that i could say that about.
#54. To: gord (#53)
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