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Title: Michelle Obama and the Rage of a Privileged Class
Source: Vdare
URL Source: http://www.vdare.com/sailer/080225_michelle_obama.htm
Published: Mar 9, 2008
Author: Steve Sailer
Post Date: 2008-03-09 08:45:02 by YertleTurtle
Keywords: None
Views: 689
Comments: 33

For a year now, I've been pointing out that, while Sen. Barack Obama's brain may be in the center, his heart is on the far left. So it might be of some interest to find out more about whether his head or his heart is likely to prevail if he becomes President.

Curiously, the Main Stream Media has shown little appetite for this task.

Obama himself may not know the answer. As he has bragged (or warned, depending upon your point of view): "What I am constantly trying to do … is balance a hard head with a big heart."

We're not accustomed to politicians as smart as Obama. White voters would likely find his supple intelligence too elitist in a white candidate. But they are so desperate for a positive role model for blacks that many of them have embraced Obama without knowing much about what he wants to do with all that brainpower.

Two weeks ago, I noted:

"Now, Obama is a smooth operator. But the two people who have had the greatest influence on his adult life—his wife Michelle and his spiritual advisor, Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr.—are not. They feel a deep racial anger and are not terribly good at hiding it."

Right on cue, Michelle Obama has now begun attracting skeptical attention for the first time after making hundreds of speeches on her husband's behalf. In Milwaukee last week, she proclaimed:

"Hope is making a comeback, and let me tell you, for the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country."

It's not so much that Michelle has a tin ear for rhetoric as that her husband's ear could be made out of the same mimetic poly-alloy as the liquid metal shape-shifting cyborg from the future in Terminator 2. Like most human beings, however, Michelle is prone to the occasional gaffe in which she lets us know what's really on her mind.

For example, in an early February speech she let herself sound like the Khmer Rouge Minister of Propaganda. While this excerpt may resemble an old Dead Kennedys punk rock parody of leftist authoritarianism, such as Holiday in Cambodia or California Uber Alles, she was serious:

"And Barack Obama will require you to work.

He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism, that you put down your division, that you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones, that you push yourselves to be better, and that you engage.

Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual - uninvolved, uninformed..."

More people are beginning to notice that the candidate's superbly crafted image as the postracial uniter doesn't quite add up. He is supposed to bring us together to overcome our tragic history of racial enmity, etc. Yet his role-model magic doesn't seem to have worked on his own wife, who continues to vent her anger over the racial indignities she feels she endured more than two decades ago at ultra-liberal Princeton and Harvard Law School. She remains perennially peeved by her relatively poor performance on standardized tests.

Or, perhaps, what he tells her in private isn't what he tells us in public?

It's not VDARE.com's job to endorse political candidates. And I certainly don't have a dog in what's left of this fight.

But it is our job to help educate the public on crucial topics where the MainStream Media won't. I have little to add to the discussion of such shopworn old pols as Hillary Clinton and John McCain.

In contrast, I believe I understand Obama better than most pundits because the mixed-race candidate has been brooding for 35 years about "race and inheritance," to quote the subtitle of his autobiography.

Mrs. Obama's attitudes about race are significant for multiple reasons. bullet First, Mr. Obama says she's important to him. Newsweek's gushing 2/25/08 cover story on Michelle, Barack's Rock by Richard Wolffe, reports:

"Onstage, Obama has introduced Michelle as 'my rock'—the person who keeps him focused and grounded. In her words, she is just making sure he is 'keeping it real.'" bullet Second, because Michelle Obama lacks her husband's remarkable verbal facility, she provides a keyhole into how the stealth candidate actually thinks and feels on those rare occasions when he can be himself. She's more of a regular person with a normal human desire to be understood. bullet Third, she's a classic example of what affirmative action, which her husband promises to give us more of, does both for and to blacks.

She is a hard worker and is of above-average intelligence, but racial preferences have repeatedly lifted her out of her intellectual league, with traumatic psychological consequences. All the breaks she received from white people merely stoked what Ellis Cose of Time calls The Rage of a Privileged Class.

Early in the New Journalism classic Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Dr. Gonzo, Hunter S. Thompson's "300-pound Samoan attorney," questions whether Sports Illustrated would actually be so trusting as to provide them with "unlimited credit" for a trip to Sin City, which they will obviously squander in a drug debauch. Thompson answers:

"'You Samoans are all the same,' I told him. 'You have no faith in the essential decency of the white man's culture.'"

Few individuals have enjoyed more palpable and repeated evidence of the essential decency of the white man's culture than Michelle Obama.

She was educated at the top public high school in Chicago, Whitney Young, which only accepted the highest scoring applicants on the entrance exam—within each race. Time reported in 1975:

"… the $30 million Whitney M. Young Jr. High School will open as a magnet in the fall with—among other things—an Olympic-sized swimming pool, a special center for the performing arts and a separate curriculum for medical studies. Whitney Young also has a strict admissions quota: 40% white, 40% black, 10% Latin, 5% other minorities and 5% at the discretion of the principal."

Michelle was overshadowed by her smart and athletic older brother Craig Robinson, who is now the head basketball coach at Brown University of the Ivy League. Newsweek's cover story recounts:

"For Michelle, Craig's easy success was intimidating. 'She was disappointed in herself,' her mother tells NEWSWEEK. 'She used to have a little bit of trouble with tests …'"

Her poor performance on tests remains a sore point with Michelle, who brings it up in odd contexts, such as when discussing her husband's standing in the polls last November:

"You know, [I've] always been told by somebody that I’m not ready, that I can’t do something, my scores weren’t high enough."

Newsweek describes her career at Whitney Young:

"… but she was not at the top of her class. She didn't get the attention of the school's college counselors, who helped the brightest students find spots at prestigious universities. … Some of her teachers told her she didn't have the grades or test scores to make it to the Ivies. But she applied to Princeton and was accepted."

Not surprisingly, just as Thomas Sowell would have predicted, four years spent in over her head among white liberal elitists who see themselves as better than the rest of America because

(A) they loudly proclaim their belief in equality; and

(B) they have above average IQs

left Michelle's sizable but fragile self-esteem in tatters. Suffering the self-consciousness common to the young, she felt that everybody was secretly putting her down for her intellectual shortcomings, and focused her anger on whites. Newsweek says:

"There weren't formal racial barriers and black students weren't officially excluded. But many of the white students couldn't hide that they regarded their African- American classmates as affirmative-action recipients who didn't really deserve to be there."

Ironically but inevitably, Princeton's diversity sensitivity programs just exacerbated Michelle's racial paranoia:

"Angela Acree, a close friend who attended Princeton with Michelle, says the university didn't help dispel that idea. Black and Hispanic students were invited to attend special classes a few weeks before the beginning of freshman semester, which the school said were intended to help kids who might need assistance adjusting to Princeton's campus. Acree couldn't see why. She had come from an East Coast prep school; Michelle had earned good grades in Chicago. "We weren't sure whether they thought we needed an extra start or they just said, 'Let's bring all the black kids together'."

Princeton racialized Michelle's consciousness. She majored in Sociology and minored in African-American Studies. Newsweek says:

"Michelle felt the [racial] tension acutely enough that she made it the subject of her senior sociology thesis, titled "Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community." The paper is now under lock and key … (Today, Michelle says, not quite convincingly, that she can't remember what was in her thesis.)"

Hilariously, the Princeton website where all her classmates' senior theses are made freely available for the edification of humanity until the end of time listed hers as being "Restricted until November 5, 2008," which just happens to be the day after the election.

Newsweek went on:

"Michelle wrote that Princeton "made me far more aware of my 'blackness' than ever before." She wrote that she felt like a visitor on the supposedly open-minded campus. "Regardless of the circumstances under which I interact with Whites at Princeton," she wrote, "it often seems as if, to them, I will always be Black first and a student second.""

On Friday, the Obama campaign released her thesis. Here's a highlight, in which the potential First Lady explains how much she wants to be, well, "Black first:"

"These experiences have made it apparent to me that the path I have chosen to follow by attending Princeton will likely lead to my further integration and/or assimilation into a White cultural and social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full participant. This realization has presently, made my goals to actively utilize my resources to benefit the Black community more desirable."

Now, VDARE.com is, for obvious reasons, not in the business of criticizing other people's punctuation. Nor do we think that anybody's glorified term paper is all that important.

Yet, because the candidate himself has made sure to leave such a minimal paper trail from the 1980s and 1990s (one immense autobiography and a single op-ed, according to Lexis-Nexis), anything that casts light on the Democratic frontrunner's personal views on crucial issues is needed.

Predictably, the same feelings of personal and thus racial inadequacy manifested themselves when she got into ultra-competitive Harvard Law School on another quota. The Newsweek reporter explains:

"At Harvard, she felt the same racial divide. … 'She recognized that she had been privileged by affirmative action and she was very comfortable with that,' [friend Verna] Williams recalls. Michelle recalls things differently. … Her aides say Michelle earned her way into Harvard on merit by distinguishing herself at Princeton."

When she graduated from HLS in 1988, she was hired by the high-paying Chicago corporate law firm Sidley Austin (which, perhaps not coincidentally, posts a 2,000-word statement describing their "Commitment to Diversity" on their website).

One problem remained: the Illinois bar exam. It appears that in 1988 she either failed it or was unready even to try it. She eventually passed and was admitted to the bar in May 1989, almost a year after graduation. (In contrast, her husband was admitted only a half year after graduating from Harvard Law School three years later).

There's nothing shameful about failing the bar exam. Hillary Clinton, for example, failed the Washington D.C. bar exam. According to blogger Half Sigma, 19 percent of applicants failed the July 1988 Illinois test. But, whiffing even once is not the kind of thing that is supposed to happen to Harvard Law School students. (Similarly, Hillary only told her Yale friends that she passed the Arkansas bar exam; she kept covered up until 2003 that she had failed the D.C. exam.)

Being admitted to the bar is public, so word of Michelle's no-show on the list of new lawyers likely spread among her old Harvard classmates in late 1988, leaving another wound upon her pride. If, however, she'd gone to the kind of law school where graduates frequently take a few tries to pass, she would have felt better about herself and less bitter at the white race.

After a few years at Sidley Austin, she let her law license lapse and began working as go-between for Mayor Daley's Machine. She enjoyed the kind of vague but well-paid career made possible by affirmative action. The description on the candidate's website of what exactly she's been doing for the U. of Chicago Medical Center is eye-glazing but ultimately revealing: she's in the diversity racket.

"She also managed the business diversity program. Michelle has fostered the University of Chicago's relationship with the surrounding community and developed the diversity program, making them both integral parts of the Medical Center's mission."

With great power comes great rewards. A couple of months after her husband was sworn in as U.S. Senator, Michelle's salary at the Medical Center was raised from $121,910 to $316,962.

A cynic might say that this rather resembles a $195,000 annual … uh, investment by a large private medical institution in the good will of a U.S. Senator and potential President who may well play the crucial role in deciding whether or not there will continue to be large private medical institutions.

Another way of looking at is that Michelle's value on the influence market went up $200,000 when her husband moved up, so the Medical Center had to ante up or lose her to somebody else who would pay the going rate for the wife of a political superstar.

Still, to say that would be to suggest that Michelle Obama on her own isn't worth $316,962, which, like any and all skepticism about the Obamas, would be racist. So, almost nobody in America is saying it.

The Daily Mail of London has taken a more jaundiced view:

"An acquaintance of Obama's family compares her with another political wife, another lawyer as it happens, with a keen interest in making money. "Michelle is very much like Cherie Blair [wife of former Prime Minister Tony Blair]. She is a middle-class girl who has discovered that money is nice and doesn't see that as a contradiction with having radical beliefs," he said.

Chicago's veteran political consultant and pundit Joe Novak agrees, saying: "She [Michelle] is now motivated more by personal gain than by social consciousness. She saw her opportunities, and she took them." …

I suspect, on no particular evidence, that Michelle's desire for a stately home pushed the normally ascetic Barack into involving in his 2005 purchase of an expensive mansion the notorious white collar crook and slumlord Tony Rezko, a Levantine Christian immigrant who goes on trial March 3rd.

Obama and Rezko had been doing each other Chicago-style favors for years. Yet, surely by 2005, Obama must have known that it was time to shed his more unseemly associates if he wanted to move to the really big house in Washington.

(By the way, VDARE.com readers will be interested in one of Rezko's old partners' defenses of the man accused of stealing $50 million: "At 19 years old, he came off an airplane and couldn't speak English, but over the years he must have brought a hundred Rezkos over from Syria." [Rezko's life a story of pizza and politics, By David Jackson and John Chase, Chicago Tribune,October 12, 2006]A hundred more Rezkos! Swell.)

Let me finish by speculating even more irresponsibly on what the cautious Barack might be telling Michelle in private: that he'll have to play the moderate during his first term. But when he's home free in his second, then he'll be keeping it real.

For her.


Poster Comment:

Michelle's IQ is 115, one standard deviation above the norm (for whites) and two standard for blacks. Still, she never was material for a top school. She was way out of her league from the git-go.

Deep inside, she must know she's been given all those jobs and that money only because she's black and relatively intelligent. That does nothing but engender resentment and hate.

I'm not that concerned about Obama, but she'll be a mess if she ever gets into the White House.

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#1. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

Do you have a source for Michelle's IQ measurements? I would like to check it, if you don't mind. I only watched her once, for 15-20 minutes on the Larrah King's and she seemed quite a bright gal and way more intelligent than the Hillary bitch.

By the way, Obama's success is only marginally traceable to his half-blackness. He is not running as a homeboy for prez. On the other hand, half of Hillary's packaging is her vagina. Maybe it's my impression but most women shown on the teevee expressing their support for the Hillperson are saying that it's time for someone with ovaries to move into the Oval Orrifice.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-03-09   9:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

Friend of mine says anyone that attends an accredited law school and cannot pass the bar exam, needs a new line of "work".Some states you do not even have to attend law school, if you fulfill other requirements, pass the the bar, a lawyer you is.

Even Ted the Swimmer Kennedy attended a top law school, hired people to take college exams and is a member in good standing.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-09   9:26:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

Do you have a source for Michelle's IQ measurements?

The quickest way to get all the articles is to Google "Steve Sailer" "Michelle Obama."

Sailer deals a lot with race, IQ, etc.

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2008-03-09   9:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

she seemed quite a bright gal

Many people seem bright but actually talk a good game. Sitting at a desk for testing, this person came up short by her own admission.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-09   9:29:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#2)

Friend of mine says anyone that attends an accredited law school and cannot pass the bar exam, needs a new line of "work"

She's let her law license expire, never worked for a law firm (couldn't handle it), and instead was given university jobs dealing with "diversity," getting more blacks in over their heads and creating more resentment and hate.

My parents were high school drop-outs, I was raised in a steel-mill prole town, went to a prole jr. high and high school, put myself though some third-tier school (took eight years), yet I'm not full of rage and anger like Michelle.

She takes herself way too seriously, and I don't take myself seriously at all.

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2008-03-09   9:32:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: YertleTurtle (#3)

"Steve Sailer" "Michelle Obama."

Okay, I read a couple of the contributions that show up when Googling "Steve Sailer" "Michelle Obama". I didn't see any source to her IQ measurement but maybe it's there and I missed it. Do you have the specific source?

As for what Michelle Obama wrote back in 1985, that's good information but I don't pay much attention to articles written by guys who try so hard to tell me what to think about any topic. The quotes he gave are not flattering but I stated that I heard her speaking a month ago, not 25 years ago, and she made a good impression. What is more relevant: what she wrote 25 years ago or the way she presented herself in 2008?

I did appreciate the "El Guapo" quotes. The Three Amigos is one of my top movies.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-03-09   9:46:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: YertleTurtle (#5)

She takes herself way too seriously, and I don't take myself seriously at all.

Being white trash, I was told from day one, expect nothing cause white trash get nothing. We were relegated to the other side of the tracks by our betters, we knew our place.

College time came around, I was totally ignored because of background and bum grades. Good grades were for the uppity. Two weeks after high school graduation came a war and surprise, I and my wrong track friends were all invited to participate, we felt so honored.

Then shock of shocks, the military administered some type of IQ test whatever that constituted. I was hoping for at least to being a truck driver or even a cook, I like to eat.

After the testing, the man sat down in front of me and said, "what in hell are you doing here".. I knew right then they were going to shoot me for doing something wrong. We white trash are always doing something wrong, we cannot even do standing around looking stupid, and get it right.

I thought, well there goes the cooks job shot to hell.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-09   9:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#6)

I didn't see any source to her IQ measurement but maybe it's there and I missed it. Do you have the specific source?

Click here

For some strange reason I can't find the exact article but I did find this one.

It's in the Comments section.

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2008-03-09   9:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#7)

I thought, well there goes the cooks job shot to hell.

When I was a senior in high schook the guidance counselor told me, "You can go to Harvard or Yale, according to your test scores."

I looked at him and thought, "Who's going to pay for it?"

All he said was that I could go, not a word about anything else.

Apparently I was the only kid in the entire school who had high enough scores.

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2008-03-09   10:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: YertleTurtle (#9)

"You can go to Harvard or Yale, according to your test scores."

That tells me you aint black and prolly not white trash like me but one of my uppity cuzins??? hehehehe

Three years later I was forced to take a long written test for promotion, of which I had no desire. After a near perfect score, I was accused of somehow cheating. They determined that was not possible but somehow I had done something nefarious.

I could pass the pilot training written exam with ease but flunked the physical, we white trash just cannot get it right.

Never did get the cooks job.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-09   10:15:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: YertleTurtle (#8)

The author seems to be on some personal anti-Michelle-Obama mission. I didn't read the entire article because it's opinion-heavy and facts-light but I did search for 'IQ' and 'intelligence' and there was not a mention there. Where is the "IQ of 115" figure coming from?

I'm not saying that 115 is a low IQ. Bush's is probably under 100 and he's been re-elected AFTER his brilliant Bamby-the-sheep reading performance done while the 9-11's were blowing up in New York so the prez. IQ's don't need to be sky-high for them to be elected by the people of America as their steady leaders. I would still like to see the source of the '115' allegation because I would give her a 130-150, based on her one performance I watched on the Larrah King's.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-03-09   10:15:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#11)

I would give her a 130-150, based on her one performance I watched on the Larrah King's.

Vast...would that also be an opinion???

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-09   10:20:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#10) (Edited)

That tells me you aint black and prolly not white trash like me but one of my uppity cuzins??? hehehehe

My parents were high school drop-outs, who were skilled labor -- my dad a general contractor and my mom an admitting clerk in the E.R. Paul Fussell, in his book, "Class," would define them as "high proles."

My jr. high was low-prole, my senior high, high-prole.

I'm about 80% Scot-Irish out of Tennesee, Kentucky and the Missouri Ozarks. Descended from wife-beating drunks and bootleggers who had an 8th-grade education.

What a background.

It's why I don't take myself seriously. Or anyone else, for that matter, snicker.

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2008-03-09   10:25:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#12) (Edited)

Yes, and I made it perfectly clear that it is my personal view. I did take some psycho classes in college but that does not make me an IQ expert. The "IQ 115" figure stated at the top of this thread, on the other hand, is presented as a verifiable fact so it would be interesting to check the source, if it exists.

On a tangent, regarding the first ladies' IQ, Laura's seems to be as dumb as her hubie George - every time she gets on TV she says 'read' and then she says 'read' and maybe 'children' and that's it. Hillary seems to be dumber than Bill. Barbie Bush appears to be dumber than her man and Nancy Reagan was clearly dumber than Ronnie. Michelle... she MIGHT be smarter than Barak. Time will tell.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-03-09   10:27:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#11)

I would give her a 130-150, based on her one performance I watched on the Larrah King's.

I'd give her 110. She's ambitious, but way over her head.

I don't like Bush, think he nuts, but it's not possible to get a Yale MBA with an IQ of less than 100. More like 125, only he doesn't use it.

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2008-03-09   10:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

On the other hand, half of Hillary's packaging is her vagina. Maybe it's my impression but most women shown on the teevee expressing their support for the Hillperson are saying that it's time for someone with ovaries to move into the Oval Orrifice.

gawd

(i am noticing more and more hillary signs popping up around here. have seen only one mcCain and not quite an equal number of obamas to hillarys)

christine  posted on  2008-03-09   10:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: christine (#16)

Interesting. I live in Pennsylvania and I didn't notice any signs yet. I guess they'll be in season after the Mississippi thing.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-03-09   10:38:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: YertleTurtle (#15)

I don't like Bush, think he nuts, but it's not possible to get a Yale MBA with an IQ of less than 100.

Wrong...

If you are well placed, Yale nor Hahvud will deny you that piece of paper.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-09   10:39:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#11)

Bush's is probably under 100 and he's been re-elected AFTER his brilliant Bamby-the-sheep reading performance done while the 9-11's were blowing up in New York so the prez

What's this business about "probably?"

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-03-09   12:02:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#19)

Absent an authoritative source for the info, it's my opinion, of course. The purpose of posting at this site IS to express opinions.

The posted article stated as a fact that Michelle Obama's IQ was 115 but it failed to reveal the source. It's okay to express opinions if you do not claim them as facts. If your view is that Bush's IQ is higher than 100, you are free to express it and back it with any facts that you may be able to find supporting it.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-03-09   12:06:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#20)

You took what I said the wrong way. You wrote "probably under 100." I think there isn't a shadow of a doubt that Shrub's IQ can't be much over 85 or 90, unless he's the world's greatest actor.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-03-09   12:09:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#21)

Well... W seems to be able to read (see video of him reading to kids while the 9/11 was exploding) and write - I saw a hand-written note of his, asking Condi if it was okay to go potty at the UN and there were no misspelled words in it. He knows some 'vocabulary' words such as 'rekinize' and 'nukular'. While in the reserves, he was able to take off in a jet plane and then land it. Given these facts, I would not place him a lot under an IQ of 100 but I find it unlikely that his IQ is above average, which is what an IQ of 100 claims to predict.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-03-09   12:16:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#21)

I think there isn't a shadow of a doubt that Shrub's IQ can't be much over 85 or 90,

Rupert...

You feeling charitable today?

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-09   12:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: The Thread (#23)

Interesting post and commentaries.

Happy daylight saving time.

Lod  posted on  2008-03-09   12:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#7)

Being white trash, I was told from day one, expect nothing cause white trash get nothing. We were relegated to the other side of the tracks by our betters, we knew our place.

True? How sad.

My Mom was from KY, my Dad from TN. Neither had a high school education. Both were forced to migrate to the North by the Great Depression. Neither they nor my schoolteachers ever told me anything but that I could grow up to be anything I wanted to be.

Same as the best of Black parents tell their children.

OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-09   12:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

Chicago's veteran political consultant and pundit Joe Novak agrees, saying: "She [Michelle] is now motivated more by personal gain than by social consciousness. She saw her opportunities, and she took them." …

Gee, how radical.

What a rancid piece of yellow journalism.

All winter long and the odious Clinton smear machine has still not come up with a handful s**t that will stick to Barack ...... so now we go after his wife, a woman with 100 times the likability of the Goldwater gal?

I smell desperation.

OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-09   12:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: YertleTurtle (#8)

Got any more sources that blow your silly, race baiting suggestions out of the water, Yertle?

OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-09   12:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: YertleTurtle (#9)

Apparently I was the only kid in the entire school who had high enough scores.

Damn, I forgot ... you're the 179 IQ dude.

I guess that would put you in the position of holding a person of 122 IQ in disdain.

OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-09   13:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: YertleTurtle (#15)

I don't like Bush, think he nuts, but it's not possible to get a Yale MBA with an IQ of less than 100. More like 125, only he doesn't use it.

You obviously never had an Ivy League prof the likes of a couple I had.

Bush might have blown 125 on breathalyser, but if he's got a 125 IQ I'll eat his test without condiments.

OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-09   13:07:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

Or, perhaps, what he tells her in private isn't what he tells us in public?

I'm sure Obama is moved when white throngs press close and proclaim "race doesn't matter!"

A bit like how a meeting with supportive Christians can be moving to an Israeli prime minister.

THE YEAR WAS 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren’t only equal before God and the law. They were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General.

Some things about living still weren’t quite right, though.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-03-09   13:51:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: iconoclast (#27)

Got any more sources that blow your silly, race baiting suggestions out of the water, Yertle?

You want to play that game?

By the way, my IQ is 126, not 179.

Obama has a brain because he's half white.

The mean average African IQ is 70. That's retarded. That's why Africans have never had any civilization, and have never invented anything, contrary to black invention myths.

The average American black IQ is 85, on the borderline of dull normal/moron.

These things are genetic.

Ignore them all you want; it doesn't matter to me.

I don't have much of a problem with Obama, except for the fact he's liberal. His angry, resentful, self-deluded wife is another story.

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2008-03-09   15:01:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: YertleTurtle (#31)

Obama has a brain because he's half white.

And, I guess Michelle got to 100+ by injection from her half-white hubby?

I went to high school with more blacks than you've probably known personally ... went to physics and chem classes with a few that exhibited more intelligence in one class session than GWB has shown in his seven years of strategerizing.

OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-09   15:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

it's time for someone with ovaries to move into the Oval Orrifice.

Already had that. Twice. Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.

Sodie Pop  posted on  2008-03-09   20:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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