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Title: Democratic Senator Backs Televangelist Probe
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic ... /03/12/national/a093337D80.DTL
Published: Mar 12, 2008
Author: ERIC GORSKI
Post Date: 2008-03-12 12:41:16 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 573
Comments: 26

(03-12) 09:34 PDT DENVER (AP) --

The Democratic chairman of the Senate Finance Committee has thrown his support behind an investigation of allegations of lavish spending and lax oversight at a half-dozen "prosperity gospel" Christian ministries.

Sen. Max Baucus of Montana joined with Iowa Republican Sen. Charles Grassley in urging cooperation from four ministries. According to a statement from Grassley's office Wednesday, the four ministries have not responded to questions he posed in early November.

Follow-up letters the two senators have sent to the three ministries that have refused to answer Grassley's questions give a March 31 deadline for turning over the requested information. A fourth ministry has indicated it will cooperate.

Having Baucus on board is crucial for any potential bid to seek subpoenas forcing answers from uncooperative ministries. Grassley critics, including Creflo Dollar, one of the ministers not cooperating, have portrayed the senator as a renegade who has no real power because his party is in the minority.

The follow-up letters do not mention subpoenas specifically, but express hope that the requested information can be obtained "without resorting to compulsory process."

Some ministries have said Grassley's inquiries about private planes, oceanside mansions, board oversight and involvement in for-profit businesses should be handled by the Internal Revenue Service, but the latest letters cite the Finance Committee's jurisdiction measuring the effectiveness of tax-exempt policy, saying that role is distinct from the IRS job of enforcing existing law.

"This ought to clear up any misunderstanding about our interest and the committee's role," Grassley said. "We have an obligation to oversee how the tax laws are working for both tax-exempt organizations and taxpayers."

All the targeted ministries say they follow IRS rules governing churches.

So far only one ministry, led by St. Louis-area author and speaker Joyce Meyer, has "cooperated substantially" and turned over information, Grassley's office said.

Another, headed by Texas-based faith healer Benny Hinn, has indicated cooperation but so far has answered just five of 28 questions, Grassley's office said. Neither Meyer nor Hinn were among those receiving the follow-up letters.

The follow-up letters were sent to Dollar and Bishop Eddie Long, both of the Atlanta area, and Kenneth Copeland whose ministry is based at Newark, Texas.

All three have pledged to fight what they portray as an attack on their religious freedom. Some have expressed worry that private information, including salaries and the donors' identities, would be made public.

The letters from Baucus and Grassley say the committee is willing to work with them to protect confidential information.

A fourth letter went to Paula and Randy White of Tampa, who recently divorced and have said little publicly. Grassley's office said representatives of the Whites have indicated they will cooperate and their letter does not set a deadline for a response.

While Grassley has emphasized he is not interested in theology, Copeland and Dollar in particular have questioned whether he is targeting the ministries' shared prosperity theology. That teaching says that God wants people to flourish financially and spiritually.

The investigation has divided the broader evangelical community, with some worrying about the potential for stricter regulations on all religious nonprofits. Others praise it as an overdue check on a corner of the movement that preys on the vulnerable and thrives despite years of negative publicity.

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"This ought to clear up any misunderstanding about our interest and the committee's role," Grassley said. "We have an obligation to oversee how the tax laws are working for both tax-exempt organizations and taxpayers."

With the national debt a minimum $9 Trillion and climbing, Congress is way past due in that obligation as it regards the taxpayers being fleeced by that tax-exempt organization known as the Private Federal Reserve. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. They ought to shoulder that responsibility they are responsible for, rather than looking for scapegoats outside their jurisdiction:

"Congressman Louis T. McFadden served as Chairman of the House Committee on Banking and Currency from 1920 thru 1931. The following excerpts are from a speech which is now difficult to obtain from the Congressional Record, in which he addressed the House of Representatives in the midst of the first Great Depression, June 10, 1932.

INTRODUCTORY REMARKS

Mr. Chairman, at the present session of Congress we have been dealing with emergency situations. We have been dealing with the effects of things, rather than the cause of things.

In this particular discussion, I shall deal with some of the causes that lead up to these proposals. There are underlying principles which are responsible for conditions such as we have at the present time, and I shall deal with one of these in particular which is tremendously important in the consideration you are now giving this bill.

Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks.

The Federal Reserve Board has cheated the Government of the United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt. The depredations and iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks acting together have cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the United States; has bankrupted itself; and has practically bankrupted our government. It has done this through the defects of the law under which it operates, through the maladministration of that law by the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it......."

www.perfecteconomy.com/pg-accountability.html

Furthermore, according to IRS rules, Churches can choose to be under the jurisdiction of Jesus Christ, where they belong, and not under the jurisdiction of this antichrist government. When they do that, they do not need to answer to this government about their finances, nor should they. The government wants a precedent to get their foot into the door in order to bring ALL the churches under their antichristian jurisdiction. It would be nice when churches wake up to the fact that America is the promised land for Christians, where Christians are the kings and priests of God, Rev. 5:9-10. Kings are sovereign in their own land. We are not supposed to pay them; as priests of God, they are supposed to pay us....ALL of us....check your Bible.

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