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Title: Obama Camp Leaves Pennsylvania to Clinton, Downplays Keystone Importance
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URL Source: http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/0 ... downplays-keystone-importance/
Published: Mar 12, 2008
Author: FOXNews.com
Post Date: 2008-03-12 22:14:21 by robin
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Comments: 38
Tuesday: Hillary Clinton speaks at a rally at Temple University in Philadelphia. Clinton is making a big push in Pennsylvania while Barack Obama is focusing on other remaining Democratic primary states. (AP Photo) Barack Obama’s campaign is playing down expectations for the Pennsylvania primary on April 22, claiming Wednesday that the Illinois senator’s back-to-back wins in Mississippi and Wyoming put him in safe enough territory to look beyond the Keystone State in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination. Pennsylvania offers 156 delegates, and is the biggest prize left on the primary calendar. Early polls show Hillary Clinton well ahead — but where Obama has been able to make up such deficits in other Clinton-leaning states, his campaign is practically writing off Pennsylvania. The idea is to play it safe. Campaign manager David Plouffe said on a conference call Wednesday that the campaign’s pledged delegate lead is greater than it was before Clinton won the Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island primaries March 4. That breathing room gives the campaign space to focus on the nine upcoming contests that aren’t the uphill Pennsylvania battle. “They should win [Pennsylvania] by a healthy margin, given where they start,” he said. “We will campaign hard there, we will try to get as many votes and delegates as we can, but our campaign will not be defined by Pennsylvania. We will be campaigning in all the rest of the states.” North Carolina, which offers 115 delegates, follows Pennsylvania on May 6 , and polls show Obama leading in the state. Both candidates campaigned in Pennsylvania Tuesday, before Mississippi voters handed Obama victory by a more than 20-point margin. The Clinton campaign will continue to push hard in the state, but Obama, who was in Chicago on Wednesday, will spend this weekend to Indiana, and plans to focus his time and energy in North Carolina as well the other upcoming states over the coming weeks. Clinton’s campaign mocked Obama’s Keystone State outlook Wednesday, reprising the argument that Clinton has shown an ability to win big states that will be important to the Democrats in November. “The path to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue goes through Pennsylvania so if Barack Obama can’t win there, how will he win the general election?” spokesman Phil Singer said in a statement. “Pennsylvania is the last state with more than 15 electoral votes on the primary calendar and Barack Obama has lost six of the seven other largest states so far - every state except his home state of Illinois. Pennsylvania is of particular importance, along with Ohio, Florida and Michigan, because it is dominated by the swing voters who are critical to a Democratic victory in November. No Democrat has won the presidency without winning Pennsylvania since 1948. And no candidate has won the Democratic nomination without winning Pennsylvania since 1972,” Singer said. Clinton has clear advantages in Pennsylvania. The former first lady visited Scranton, where her father was raised and is buried, many times as a child and still has relatives in Pennsylvania. Her campaign plans to have 250 staffers and at least 23 offices in the state. Pennsylvania bears many demographic similarities to Ohio, which Clinton won by 10 percentage points. It is home to many older voters and white, blue-collar workers with little or no college, two staples of her base. Clinton also has the support of Ed Rendell, the state’s popular, garrulous Democratic governor, and he appears ready to campaign hard for her, as Gov. Ted Strickland did in Ohio. When Obama toured a wind turbine production plant north of Philadelphia on Tuesday, he acknowledged it was first visit to the state in “a long time.” But in the coming weeks, he said, “I’ll be talking with folks all across this state from Pittsburgh to Harrisburg, from Philadelphia to Wilkes-Barre.” A quintet of governors from Washington, Iowa, Virginia, Wisconsin and Missouri released a memo later Wednesday “debunking” Clinton’s “big state spin.” “Senator Obama has scored important victories in each of our states – states that will play a decisive role in deciding whether or not John McCain will be given the chance to enter the White House and extend George Bush’s failed policies for another four years,” they wrote. The latest delegate tallies show Obama with 1,598 and Clinton with 1,487. It takes 2,025 to win, and neither can do so with pledged delegates alone. As the campaigns continue to spar over issues of race, readiness, experience and electability, all sides are dragging out a disagreement over how to deal with the discounted Florida and Michigan contests. The Democratic National Committee stripped the state’s of their 313 convention delegates for holding early primaries in violation of party rules. Clinton again made the call Wednesday to either honor the results or hold do-over primaries. The Obama campaign has said it will not accept the results based on the January contests, as Obama’s name was not on the ballot in Michigan, and neither candidate campaigned in the Sunshine State. Plouffe said caucuses, however, were an option, as were new primaries, but cautioned the latter method would be expensive. He had “deep concerns” with a mail-in re-vote, which Florida’s Democratic House delegation also opposes. “It seems that the easiest solution here would be some kind of fair seating of the delegations that is not reflective of this contest in January, that allows these states to participate in Denver, but does not advantage Senator Clinton unfairly,” Plouffe said. It’s unclear how this seating would be decided. But Plouffe said Clinton’s push for the states is rooted in self interest, not a desire to fight disenfranchisement. “We do not think the Clinton campaign’s approach here is based on benevolence towards Florida and Michigan - it’s based on increasingly desperate, self-serving stretching for whatever they think might help them secure the nomination,” he said FOX News’ Bonney Kapp and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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#1. To: Cynicom (#0)
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'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' Gov. Rendell also made it quite emphatic that people in Pa will NOT vote for a black president. Obama seems to have understood. He most likely will carry Filthydelphia for apparent reasons.
If she wins the support of 238, or 70 percent of the superdelegates, she gets to 2,025. Unlikely? Yes. PA isn't all that important.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' So, our political options in PA are a black guy who hasn't been vetted, a dyke or a raving Republican loon? And people wonder why I sit these messes out.
I wonder then why are they campaigning here???
The bigger the delegate lead, the fewer problems at the convention.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' Sit it out???? Heavens no, I intend to go register as a dem so can vote with rest of friends against Obama. Voting for him because of color is not racist, so voting against him is also not racist??? Right???? Is it???
That's a fact.
A society grows rich by producing things…and saving money.
If Obama gets more than ten votes in this county I will demand a recount.
PSU is a mini city with 40,000 students. For all the push to get kids involved, I'm betting 10% bother to vote.
Obama has already written Pa off. 150 plus delegates is difficult to concede. The vote ratio from Filthydelphia vs the rest of the state will illuminate how race is driving this election.
Daughter came out of PSU a flaming liberal. Now she is a hard core American, anti government, anti PC etc etc.
"if you are a conservative before the age of thirty, there's something wrong with your heart and if you're a liberal after 30, there's something wrong with your head." (i don't know who said that ;)
John Edwards had much more impressive accomplishments: In their elections to the Senate, Edwards beat an incumbent Republican in a red state; Obama beat Alan Keyes in a blue state. In their common legal profession, Edwards defeated top corporate lawyers in real-world courtrooms with millions at stake; Obama was editor of the Harvard Law student magazine. Only thing Edwards lacked was the right skin color to beat Obama for the black vote in these primaries.
The delegates will be split in some way.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' I am gonna enjoy voting agin Obama.
You prefer Hillary or McCain?
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' My two girls went into PSU agnostics, came out quasi Rs and are now angry NJ hyper taxpayers. #1 son gets the big picture.
I never understood why Edwards didn't go further than he did.
I vote agin Obama in the primary and for Ron Paul in Nov. For any of the three???? You should know me better than that.
Having lived for some time in NC, Edwards is known as Mr. Slick Shyster. Such word travels.
I don't understand that either.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' So the populist stuff was schtick.?
Phooney balony. I never met anyone that liked him. He was a high class ambulance chaser, nothing more. There were always questions about other facets of his life.
While Edwards was still in there, he and Obama were splittng the anti-Hillary vote, but then the balance tipped for Obama when the blacks got behind him big- time. So Edwards got out and Obama then had all the anti-Hillary vote plus 90% of the black vote, and the rest is history. But even if there had been no Obama, Edwards wouldn't have beaten Hillary, because while Edwards would then have had all the anti-Hillary votes to himself, Edwards unlike Obama would've had to split the black vote with her, and that wouldn't have been enough for him to win.
Outside Barnes and Noble.. I have no use for Joe Pa land..
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
It was at the age of 30, in 1904, that Churchill switched from the Conservative Party to the Liberal Party. When the Liberals won a landslide election victory in 1905, Churchill entered Asquith's Liberal government. As President of the Board of Trade and later Home Secretary in that government, Churchill was, with Lloyd George, the leading radical in the cabinet, responsible for the People's Budget of 1911, which introduced various social welfare programs, including unemployment insurance and government old-age pensions. At the time, he was 37 years old. When Churchill was forced out of government by the Conservatives (after they had joined a wartime coalition cabinet) in 1915, he was 41 years old.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' Even if Obama loses PA as badly as he lost Ohio (and he lost Ohio so badly because the Clinton camp was involved in spreading lies about his position on NAFTA -- I doubt if they will repeat that success,) that only would mean a net pickup by the Hillary campaign of something like 10 delegates.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
If she wins the support of 238, or 70 percent of the superdelegates, she gets to 2,025. Unlikely? Yes. Very unlikely. Yep, here's one analysis: 'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Ture and he has a large grassroots following, most of his campaign donations are under $100. In NH when I was following Ron Paul's campaign closely, I learned that some thugs from Clinton's campaign chased out Ron Paul and Obama supporters who were there to observe. I posted about it at the time. The Clinton thugs demanded to see their "papers". The young college kids were intimidated and had no clue what papers they meant. It was all bogus.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
That's the long and short of it. To have any chance of being elected, or even being a factor, you need the blessing of the MSM. The Obama phenomenon is entirely a creation of media hype, just like Mad Mac's "straight talk express."
Yet there are those who are crossing over to vote for her, to try and insure Obama does not win.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#2. To: robin, Jethro Tull (#0)
#3. To: Cynicom (#2)
Clinton trails Obama by more than 100 delegates as of this morning. If she wins 60% of the Pennsylvania delegates, holds Obama to 50% in North Carolina, and edges him with 52-48 victories in all the remaining contests, she will still be 80 delegates behind (1,788 Clinton to 1,867 Obama). It takes 2,025 delegates to be nominated. There are about 340 unpledged superdelegates. (Take away one with the resignation of Gov. Eliot Spitzer of New York. He will be replaced by his lieutenant governor, also a superdelegate, and there is no provision to replace the lieutenant governor in New York.)
Very unlikely.
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#4. To: Cynicom (#2)
Gov. Rendell also made it quite emphatic that people in Pa will NOT vote for a black president.
#5. To: robin (#3)
#6. To: Cynicom (#5)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#7. To: Jethro Tull (#4)
#8. To: robin (#0)
“The path to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue goes through Pennsylvania so if Barack Obama can’t win there, how will he win the general election?”
#9. To: Jethro Tull (#4)
#10. To: Cynicom (#9)
#11. To: angle (#8)
#12. To: Jethro Tull (#10)
#13. To: Cynicom (#12)
Now she is a hard core American, anti government, anti PC etc etc.
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#4)
a black guy who hasn't been vetted
I've already said too much.
#15. To: Cynicom (#11)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#16. To: robin (#15)
#17. To: Cynicom (#16)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#18. To: Cynicom (#12)
#19. To: MUDDOG (#14)
#20. To: robin (#17)
You prefer Hillary or McCain?
#21. To: Jethro Tull (#19)
#22. To: Jethro Tull (#19)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#23. To: Cynicom (#21)
#24. To: Jethro Tull (#23)
So the populist stuff was schtick.?
#25. To: Jethro Tull (#19)
why Edwards didn't go further
I've already said too much.
#26. To: Jethro Tull (#10)
PSU is a mini city with 40,000 students. For all the push to get kids involved, I'm betting 10% bother to vote.
#27. To: christine (#13)
#28. To: Jethro Tull (#19)
#29. To: ghostdogtxn (#27)
#30. To: robin (#0)
#31. To: ghostdogtxn (#30)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#32. To: ghostdogtxn (#30)
#33. To: aristeides (#32)
Clinton trails Obama by more than 100 delegates as of this morning. If she wins 60% of the Pennsylvania delegates, holds Obama to 50% in North Carolina, and edges him with 52-48 victories in all the remaining contests, she will still be 80 delegates behind (1,788 Clinton to 1,867 Obama). It takes 2,025 delegates to be nominated. There are about 340 unpledged superdelegates. (Take away one with the resignation of Gov. Eliot Spitzer of New York. He will be replaced by his lieutenant governor, also a superdelegate, and there is no provision to replace the lieutenant governor in New York.)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#34. To: aristeides (#32)
#35. To: ghostdogtxn (#34)
He's run a better-organized campaign, from the ground up, taking advantage of every technological advance.
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#36. To: robin (#35)
#37. To: ghostdogtxn (#28)
got drubbed in the media because he wasn't black (a curiosity) or the jilted wife of Bill Clinton (another curiosity); ie- he wasn't "media picked".
#38. To: ghostdogtxn (#36)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
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