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Title: The Hour of Our Time - The Legacy of William Cooper Source: Ether Films URL Source: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2829245257205113781 Published: Mar 22, 2007 Author: James Jankiewicz Post Date: 2008-03-14 21:30:43 by buckeye Keywords: NoneViews: 409 Comments: 27
William (Bill) Cooper was a former naval officer, decorated veteran, short wave radio broadcaster and world renound lecturer and author, he ... all » was shot and killed November 5th 2001 under suspicious circumstances. This is his story. Poster Comment:What common bond do we have, people? Freedom. A Clinton White house memo is rumored to have called Cooper "the most dangerous radio host in America." (See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper. A Jim Jankiewicz film It's interesting that he started wondering if the UFO information he had seen while in Navy intelligence was "fed" to him.
William (Bill) Cooper was a former naval officer, decorated veteran, short wave radio broadcaster and world renound lecturer and author, he ... all » was shot and killed November 5th 2001 under suspicious circumstances. This is his story.
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What common bond do we have, people? Freedom.
A Clinton White house memo is rumored to have called Cooper "the most dangerous radio host in America." (See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_William_Cooper.
A Jim Jankiewicz film
It's interesting that he started wondering if the UFO information he had seen while in Navy intelligence was "fed" to him.
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#6. To: IndieTx (#0) William Cooper ping christine posted on 2008-03-15 10:02:36 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #15. To: IndieTx, christine, robin (#6) (Edited) I acknowledge that disinformation can be used in dangerous ways. Consider TOS2's resident OKC bombing "expert" who continually discovers reasons for us to blame the Arab world for the OKC bombing: www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=219131 The blame is continually shifted away from Americans with ulterior motives, and ascribed to incompetence. Bill Clinton's cabinet takes the fall, but not because they wanted an excuse to impose martial law and persecute the militia types or those critical of Israel (as HR 1955 has intended). There could be a lot of truth in these "exposes," but as with 9/11, angry and intent on the part of foreigners to harm us is one thing. Providing excuses for the government to crack down on our freedoms is another. buckeye posted on 2008-03-15 11:14:29 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #16. To: buckeye (#15) who continually discovers reasons for us to blame the Arab world for the OKC bombing: I never understood that, except that he is religious and probably influenced by his church. robin posted on 2008-03-15 11:19:22 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #17. To: robin (#16) I tend to believe there were foreign terrorists involved with the Murrah bombing. McVeigh had expressed deep sympathies for the Iraqis killed during the first gulf war, and I can believe he could have collaborated with foreign terrorists. That's not the point. As with 9/11, the point is what our government did with the event in its communications with the American people that I despise. As a typical second amendment supporter, I felt that Janet Reno had brought every pro-constitution patriot under attack when they started tarring all militias in with McVeigh and the Elohim supremacists. Something similar happened after 9/11: it became a Reichstag fire that rallied the anti-constitutional forces to greater and greater accomplishments -- rarely opposed. buckeye posted on 2008-03-15 11:27:40 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #20. To: buckeye (#17) (Edited) Janet Reno had brought every pro-constitution patriot under attack when they started tarring all militias in with McVeigh and the Elohim supremacists. Something similar happened after 9/11 Yes of course, there is an agenda to make the US like the USSR once was. Why else would DHS hire an ex head of Stasi (Marcus Wolf) and an ex-KGB (Primakov)? Briley understands that: CHERTOFF CREATED TERROR PRETEXTS FOR US POLICE STATE I tend to believe McVeigh was used by an operation designed to forward that agenda. FORMER KGB HEADS TO HELP SPY ON AMERICANS robin posted on 2008-03-15 11:38:15 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #21. To: robin (#20) (Edited) I tend to believe McVeigh was used by an operation designed to forward that agenda. Regardless of the events leading up to the bombing, Establishment efforts afterward were single minded in that regard. It was a kind of slight of hand where the government appeared to be shocked by an operation that they were actually investigating, and then wheeled around to point the finger of doom at anyone who might question the erosion of our constitutional rights as a potential terrorist who could destroy innocent American life for that "unjust" cause. You might be interested in Gore Vidal's commentary regarding the incident. He struck up a friendship with McVeigh and exchanged letters with him before writing this article. buckeye posted on 2008-03-15 11:57:15 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #22. To: buckeye (#21) from Briley: FEDERAL CONCEALMENT OF OKC BOMBING PROVOCATEURSMcVeigh was known to be with one or more of the FBI provocateurs McVeigh was working with Andreas Strassmeyer and FBI agents. This was clearly a govt operation. Gore Vidal did not seem to go into this (I did not read the entire long article), although he did make some good points. robin posted on 2008-03-15 12:15:54 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #23. To: robin (#22) Yes, Patrick often talks about those provocateurs, as do Laurie Mylorie and Jayna Davis. It doesn't prove that the operation was intentional; it could mean that the government simply let it get out of control accidentally (possibly by failing to imagine how terrible the plans were). That's in the middle between MIHOP and LIHOP: made it happen on purpose, and let it happen on purpose. Yes, I've also heard that the explosion caused by fertilizer could not have done the damage done. The whole situation is very much like the 9/11 truth debate: endless, filled with inconsistencies, and potentially shattering to the integrity of our republic. buckeye posted on 2008-03-15 12:27:01 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply #26. To: buckeye (#23) There were reports of explosions/bombs planted in the building too. I go with MIHOP. The overall picture is one of coverup and deception; just like 9/11. robin posted on 2008-03-15 13:24:33 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply Replies to Comment # 26. There are no replies to Comment # 26. End Trace Mode for Comment # 26. Top Page Up Full Thread Page Down Bottom/Latest
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christine posted on 2008-03-15 10:02:36 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
I acknowledge that disinformation can be used in dangerous ways. Consider TOS2's resident OKC bombing "expert" who continually discovers reasons for us to blame the Arab world for the OKC bombing: www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=219131 The blame is continually shifted away from Americans with ulterior motives, and ascribed to incompetence. Bill Clinton's cabinet takes the fall, but not because they wanted an excuse to impose martial law and persecute the militia types or those critical of Israel (as HR 1955 has intended). There could be a lot of truth in these "exposes," but as with 9/11, angry and intent on the part of foreigners to harm us is one thing. Providing excuses for the government to crack down on our freedoms is another.
The blame is continually shifted away from Americans with ulterior motives, and ascribed to incompetence. Bill Clinton's cabinet takes the fall, but not because they wanted an excuse to impose martial law and persecute the militia types or those critical of Israel (as HR 1955 has intended).
There could be a lot of truth in these "exposes," but as with 9/11, angry and intent on the part of foreigners to harm us is one thing. Providing excuses for the government to crack down on our freedoms is another.
buckeye posted on 2008-03-15 11:14:29 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
who continually discovers reasons for us to blame the Arab world for the OKC bombing: I never understood that, except that he is religious and probably influenced by his church.
who continually discovers reasons for us to blame the Arab world for the OKC bombing:
I never understood that, except that he is religious and probably influenced by his church.
robin posted on 2008-03-15 11:19:22 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
I tend to believe there were foreign terrorists involved with the Murrah bombing. McVeigh had expressed deep sympathies for the Iraqis killed during the first gulf war, and I can believe he could have collaborated with foreign terrorists. That's not the point. As with 9/11, the point is what our government did with the event in its communications with the American people that I despise. As a typical second amendment supporter, I felt that Janet Reno had brought every pro-constitution patriot under attack when they started tarring all militias in with McVeigh and the Elohim supremacists. Something similar happened after 9/11: it became a Reichstag fire that rallied the anti-constitutional forces to greater and greater accomplishments -- rarely opposed.
That's not the point. As with 9/11, the point is what our government did with the event in its communications with the American people that I despise. As a typical second amendment supporter, I felt that Janet Reno had brought every pro-constitution patriot under attack when they started tarring all militias in with McVeigh and the Elohim supremacists. Something similar happened after 9/11: it became a Reichstag fire that rallied the anti-constitutional forces to greater and greater accomplishments -- rarely opposed.
buckeye posted on 2008-03-15 11:27:40 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
Janet Reno had brought every pro-constitution patriot under attack when they started tarring all militias in with McVeigh and the Elohim supremacists. Something similar happened after 9/11 Yes of course, there is an agenda to make the US like the USSR once was. Why else would DHS hire an ex head of Stasi (Marcus Wolf) and an ex-KGB (Primakov)? Briley understands that: CHERTOFF CREATED TERROR PRETEXTS FOR US POLICE STATE I tend to believe McVeigh was used by an operation designed to forward that agenda. FORMER KGB HEADS TO HELP SPY ON AMERICANS
Janet Reno had brought every pro-constitution patriot under attack when they started tarring all militias in with McVeigh and the Elohim supremacists. Something similar happened after 9/11
Yes of course, there is an agenda to make the US like the USSR once was. Why else would DHS hire an ex head of Stasi (Marcus Wolf) and an ex-KGB (Primakov)?
Briley understands that: CHERTOFF CREATED TERROR PRETEXTS FOR US POLICE STATE
I tend to believe McVeigh was used by an operation designed to forward that agenda.
FORMER KGB HEADS TO HELP SPY ON AMERICANS
robin posted on 2008-03-15 11:38:15 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
I tend to believe McVeigh was used by an operation designed to forward that agenda. Regardless of the events leading up to the bombing, Establishment efforts afterward were single minded in that regard. It was a kind of slight of hand where the government appeared to be shocked by an operation that they were actually investigating, and then wheeled around to point the finger of doom at anyone who might question the erosion of our constitutional rights as a potential terrorist who could destroy innocent American life for that "unjust" cause. You might be interested in Gore Vidal's commentary regarding the incident. He struck up a friendship with McVeigh and exchanged letters with him before writing this article.
Regardless of the events leading up to the bombing, Establishment efforts afterward were single minded in that regard. It was a kind of slight of hand where the government appeared to be shocked by an operation that they were actually investigating, and then wheeled around to point the finger of doom at anyone who might question the erosion of our constitutional rights as a potential terrorist who could destroy innocent American life for that "unjust" cause. You might be interested in Gore Vidal's commentary regarding the incident. He struck up a friendship with McVeigh and exchanged letters with him before writing this article.
buckeye posted on 2008-03-15 11:57:15 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
from Briley: FEDERAL CONCEALMENT OF OKC BOMBING PROVOCATEURSMcVeigh was known to be with one or more of the FBI provocateurs McVeigh was working with Andreas Strassmeyer and FBI agents. This was clearly a govt operation. Gore Vidal did not seem to go into this (I did not read the entire long article), although he did make some good points.
from Briley:
FEDERAL CONCEALMENT OF OKC BOMBING PROVOCATEURSMcVeigh was known to be with one or more of the FBI provocateurs
McVeigh was working with Andreas Strassmeyer and FBI agents. This was clearly a govt operation. Gore Vidal did not seem to go into this (I did not read the entire long article), although he did make some good points.
robin posted on 2008-03-15 12:15:54 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
Yes, Patrick often talks about those provocateurs, as do Laurie Mylorie and Jayna Davis. It doesn't prove that the operation was intentional; it could mean that the government simply let it get out of control accidentally (possibly by failing to imagine how terrible the plans were). That's in the middle between MIHOP and LIHOP: made it happen on purpose, and let it happen on purpose. Yes, I've also heard that the explosion caused by fertilizer could not have done the damage done. The whole situation is very much like the 9/11 truth debate: endless, filled with inconsistencies, and potentially shattering to the integrity of our republic.
Yes, I've also heard that the explosion caused by fertilizer could not have done the damage done.
The whole situation is very much like the 9/11 truth debate: endless, filled with inconsistencies, and potentially shattering to the integrity of our republic.
buckeye posted on 2008-03-15 12:27:01 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
There were reports of explosions/bombs planted in the building too. I go with MIHOP. The overall picture is one of coverup and deception; just like 9/11.
The overall picture is one of coverup and deception; just like 9/11.
robin posted on 2008-03-15 13:24:33 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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