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Title: Obama blasts Dobbs on demanding secure borders
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Published: Mar 15, 2008
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#13. To: Cynicom (#7)

Keeping with the subject in hand, Obama is talking about a RACE, namely Latinos, and I was talking about African-Africans.

He was clearly addressing a voting block, which is and promises to be awesomely large no matter which of the three is nominated/elected, but why he was doing it after the TX primary was not only wrong-headed but pointless.

At least you're consistently stupid.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-15   20:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: farmfriend (#10)

Yes but like McClintock he decided to stick with the party rather than continue the revolution.

Cynicom is enthusiastically against everyone and everything.

He contributes nothing but negativity to the discussion.

I try to ignore him, but alas, I guess he goes back on the bozo list.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-15   20:36:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: iconoclast (#13)

At least you're consistently stupid.

Unusual language for this forum, no?

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-15   20:37:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: iconoclast (#13) (Edited)

At least you're consistently stupid.

I am sure if you really try you could come up with some very good language. Normally those that lack adequate social manners stoop to name calling and gutter vulgarisms. I have no words I care to subscribe to you. I do not believe I have never called you stupid and I have to wonder why you see fit to do so.

If you do not care to read what I post, ignore or bozo, whatever pleases you. In return, with your total lack of civility and common manners, you are demonstrating your character here for all to see.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-15   20:37:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: farmfriend, Cynicom (#10)

Yes but like McClintock he decided to stick with the party rather than continue the revolution.

Cynicom is enthusiastically against everyone and everything.

He contributes nothing but negativity to the discussion, and is well named.

I try to ignore him, but alas, I guess he goes back on the bozo list.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-15   20:38:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeye (#15)

Unusual language for this forum, no?

Fortunately, unusual target.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-15   20:41:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: iconoclast (#14)

He contributes nothing but negativity to the discussion.

I try to ignore him, but alas, I guess he goes back on the bozo list.

There is a place for that.

I don't do bozo. I don't believe in it. Only one person has me on bozo so far and that was after the last heavy climate debate. Oh well, if they don't want to see what I have to say...


Vote Republicrat or Democin, it doesn't matter, you still get McHillobama

farmfriend  posted on  2008-03-15   21:26:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#1)

Someone should ask Obama if he would allow open borders for all African-Africans to come here for a better life also.

Some Kenyan was interviewed and said he hoped Barak would be President, because he (Barak) would buy him (the Kenyan) a new motorbike.

The stupider people are the more surprised they are when you kill them.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2008-03-15   21:27:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: iconoclast (#9)

When it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck .....

then it's a duck. To you, a racist duck.

The stupider people are the more surprised they are when you kill them.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2008-03-15   21:29:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: YertleTurtle (#20)

Do I need a passport to move into the Ozarks??

Are most of the natives friendly to furriners? I am a fellow hill billy, maybe they would consider that? And yes, I use to eat squirrel.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-15   21:39:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#22)

Are most of the natives friendly to furriners?

Very friendly.

See the "Deliverance" movie.

They really bond with you quickly.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-03-15   21:44:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Horse (#5) (Edited)

Actually, it is far worse than Dobbs says. Both Hillary and Obama have said they would refuse to enforce the borders until Congress passed a Path to Citizenship (i.e. Amnesty.)

Naturally, most folks assume that these candidates believe in some undefined right of people to seek a better life, but that's not it at all.

In fact, both parties defend the corporations' "right" to cheap, exploitable labor -people who can be unlawfully locked into fire traps to prevent "inventory shrinkage", disciplined with cattle prods, made to work unpaid overtime and who cannot even complain because of a language barrier that doesn't prevent them from working like slaves, but does minimize redress of grievances regardless of their validity.

The Tyson chicken plant that burned here in DE years ago had the emergency panic exit door hardware disabled and the doors chained to keep employees from swiping a chicken or two for their own hungry families. In a *state that produces 4 billion dollars worth of plump fryers every year there is no plan to supply the lowest workers on the food chain with chickens at cost. That's too much like charity, it isn't tax deductible, and like the Wal Mart bazillionaires the Tyson Foods people just can't spare it. (What are we, Japanese?)

The day that Exxon donates home heating oil to minimize winter killed poor people in America (like Chavez does, that rotten commie bastard!) is the day that Tyson and Wal Mart will let their employees buy necessities at cost.

My former oil company boss told me that he paid taxes and that's all the obligation he has to his employees, and that's why he didn't have a health plan. And, while he was telling me that his Republican buddies were quietly lobbying to eliminate the income tax on corporations and make it a withholding tax only! Yeah, the corporate types would like nothing better than if we worker bees supported the less fortunate among us. But, when Exxon spilled a few billion crankcases full of Alaskan crude in Prince William Sound, they didn't insist that only the rich help the rich. They were downright cheerful at the prospect that taxpayers would subsidize the coast guard, the engineers, wildlife professionals, and as far as I know EXXON never gave the volunteers from Delaware who washed the animals a nickel.

* EDIT The industry encompasses the DelMarVa peninsula. Parts of MD, DE and VA make up the 4 bil per yr industry here.

"...and girl you know that rain, is bad for my guitar strings...."__Forrest Lee, Jr.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-15   21:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#22)

Do I need a passport to move into the Ozarks??

As long as you ain't black or Mexican or Jewish, nothing else is needed.

The stupider people are the more surprised they are when you kill them.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2008-03-15   21:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: tom007 (#23)

See the "Deliverance" movie.

Hey!

You mess with me, I'll twist your boob and make you cry like a girl!

The stupider people are the more surprised they are when you kill them.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2008-03-15   21:47:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: farmfriend (#19) (Edited)

...Only one person has me on bozo so far and that was after the last heavy climate debate....

Yew musta really rained on someone's parade! ;)

"...and girl you know that rain, is bad for my guitar strings...."__Forrest Lee, Jr.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-15   21:49:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: HOUNDDAWG (#27)

Yew musta really rained one someone's parade! ;)

Guess so. But then who is to say they didn't put all participants on bozo?


Vote Republicrat or Democin, it doesn't matter, you still get McHillobama

farmfriend  posted on  2008-03-15   21:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: YertleTurtle (#21)

then it's a duck. To you, a racist duck.

Correcto.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-15   21:57:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: YertleTurtle, tom007, Cynicom (#26)

See the "Deliverance" movie.

Hey!

You mess with me, I'll twist your boob and make you cry like a girl!

Actually, WHERE THE RED FERN GROWS is a much nicer movie about The Ozarks.

"...and girl you know that rain, is bad for my guitar strings...."__Forrest Lee, Jr.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-15   21:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: farmfriend (#28)

Yew musta really rained one someone's parade! ;)

Guess so. But then who is to say they didn't put all participants on bozo?

That's right.

Since I take no pleasure in internet rancor I'd rather be ignored than blindsided by avenging angels and Simian fairie godparents. (with JD degrees ;) )

You know the old saying, Winning an argument on the net is like winning in The Special Olympics. Even if you win you're still "extremely gifted and special and you can do anything if you put your mind to it!" ;)

"...and girl you know that rain, is bad for my guitar strings...."__Forrest Lee, Jr.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-15   22:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: farmfriend, HOUNDDAWG (#28)

Yew musta really rained one someone's parade! ;)

Guess so. But then who is to say they didn't put all participants on bozo?

For what it's worth, neither of you have ever been under consideration for inclusion on my very exclusive bozo list (3 at the moment).

I do not believe you would be comfortable in their exclusive company, there or anywhere else. ;-)

I do not put persons there for any reason other than that they drive me to a place where I would rather not be. The shame for that is at least as much on me as them.

Just claiming Irish heritage does not pardon it.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-15   22:16:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: YertleTurtle (#25)

Turtle...

I answer to all of the following.

White trash..redneck..hill billy..ridge runner..stump jumper..cracker..wood hick

Is'nt it odd that those choice names have never made it on the "PC" list.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-15   22:25:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: YertleTurtle (#25)

"As long as you ain't black or Mexican or Jewish, nothing else is needed."

Wrong. If you hate all three traits, you aren't in the Ozarks, you are in your own internal hell. I hope you get a Negro Rabbi of Mexican heritage as your next close neighbor.


Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggy, till you find a large rock.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-03-15   22:31:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: iconoclast, HOUNDDAWG (#32)

Just claiming Irish heritage does not pardon it.

No, but being of Irish stock myself I can understand it.

You have me really curious as to who is on your list.


Vote Republicrat or Democin, it doesn't matter, you still get McHillobama

farmfriend  posted on  2008-03-15   22:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Ferret Mike (#34)

Mike...

In the past I have had all three for next door neighbors, and moved every time.

In Baltimore Jewish real estate blockbusters brought in blacks with dozens of rental kids. Homes were bought for pennies on the dollar. Three families were put in one family homes.

My old home in NYC is all south of the border, trash as far as you can see. I dont go there anymore.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-15   22:46:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: farmfriend (#35)

You have me really curious as to who is on your list.

Maybe I'll P-mail yuh, they're real doozies.

They either don't post much anymore or my bozo worked. ;-)

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-15   22:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: tom007 (#23)

See the "Deliverance" movie.

They really bond with you quickly

lol

christine  posted on  2008-03-15   23:00:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: iconoclast (#37)

Maybe I'll P-mail yuh, they're real doozies.

cool!


Vote Republicrat or Democin, it doesn't matter, you still get McHillobama

farmfriend  posted on  2008-03-15   23:03:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: HOUNDDAWG (#30)

Actually, WHERE THE RED FERN GROWS is a much nicer movie about The Ozarks.

If I'm not mistaken, "Deliverance" was supposedly sited considerably east of the Ozarks.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-15   23:06:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: HOUNDDAWG (#24)

very illuminating post

christine  posted on  2008-03-15   23:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Cynicom, Jethro Tull (#33)

Turtle...

I answer to all of the following.

White trash..redneck..hill billy..ridge runner..stump jumper..cracker..wood hick

Is'nt it odd that those choice names have never made it on the "PC" list.

I know where you're going with this.

Sure, you're good natured as all heck because you enjoy "white skin privilege! Howard Hughes knew what that meant! (watch and Jane will blink)

Jane

To prove that you're not a "racist" or a "hater" you need to accept different standards of beauty". You can prove yourself worthy by walking with this lovely creature on your arm....

Photobucket
(Her white public defender goes down on her so she knows he's truly "Reconstructed")

"QUOTATION OF THE DAY - "If the Fed hadn't acted this morning and Bear did default on its obligations, then that could have triggered a very widespread panic and potentially a collapse of the financial system." - JAMES L. MELCHER, president of Balestra Capital, a hedge fund based in New York."

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-15   23:28:04 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: iconoclast (#40)

Actually, WHERE THE RED FERN GROWS is a much nicer movie about The Ozarks.

If I'm not mistaken, "Deliverance" was supposedly sited considerably east of the Ozarks.

Well, I didn't wanna be a know-it-all but DELIVERANCE was supposed to be in GA. So, that would be closer to the Blue Ridge Mountains.

"QUOTATION OF THE DAY - "If the Fed hadn't acted this morning and Bear did default on its obligations, then that could have triggered a very widespread panic and potentially a collapse of the financial system." - JAMES L. MELCHER, president of Balestra Capital, a hedge fund based in New York."

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-15   23:37:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: christine (#41) (Edited)

Thanks, Teenie!

"SO MUCH FOR MY HAPPY ENDING...."__Avril Lavigne

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-15   23:42:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: YertleTurtle (#25)

As long as you ain't black or Mexican or Jewish, nothing else is needed.

How do ya feel about us Injuns?

At least I'm part Injun (even though I don't really look it).

Oh, and I don't have a big nose even though a lot of my ancestors were Jewish.

And my family was "Old South" before the term was invented. (Also they had a lot of errr, ummm, "employees" in the 1790 Census.)

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-03-15   23:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Original_Intent (#45)

If Custer was around we could ask his opinion. hehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-15   23:54:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: YertleTurtle (#26)

See the "Deliverance" movie.

Hey!

You mess with me, I'll twist your boob and make you cry like a girl!

I thought you did that last night.

And the master card you presented for the $1500 at the five diamond girl mart was declined, so I am going to reposess the Safeway cart you gave me as collateral.

She wants her panties back as well.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-03-16   0:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: tom007 (#47)

She wants her panties back as well.

Turtles wearing them. Now he has two pair.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-16   0:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Cynicom, turtle (#48)

She tell me she dosen't want them back any more. All is forgiven, except for the peacock thing.

She said you would know.

We don't have to know everything.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-03-16   0:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Cynicom (#46)

If Custer was around we could ask his opinion. hehehehehehe

I'm part Assiniboine so I might have had an ancestor at the Little Bighorn, but not with the Cavalry. Hee, he, he, he, he.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-03-16   0:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: iconoclast (#13)

He was clearly addressing a voting block, which is and promises to be awesomely large no matter which of the three is nominated/elected, but why he was doing it after the TX primary was not only wrong-headed but pointless.

Dear Iconoclast We still live in the United States, therefore what happens to one state, happens to all. The Illegal invasion isn't limited to the SW (Oh, how I wish it were). In Ohio, where you live, illegals have set up shop as they have here in PA. I pray your liberalism subsides before your kids and grand kids are forced to learn Spanish, but I hold no hope. Your acquaintance to the Wave might assuage your guilt, but it will surely leave your kids knee deep in s**t.

PS: Why is it Obamaphiles have trouble staying on topic? Their kneejerk reaction to criticism of their candidate is a FReeperlike attack of the poster.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-03-16   3:05:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Jethro Tull (#51)

Obama has nothing behind his platitudes and neither do his followers.

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2008-03-16   3:37:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Jethro Tull (#51)

I pray your liberalism subsides before your kids and grand kids are forced to learn Spanish, but I hold no hope. Your acquaintance to the Wave might assuage your guilt, but it will surely leave your kids knee deep in s**t.

I am vehemently for protected borders and sovereignty.

Who should my candidate be?

Lamentably the Mexican border seems to have replaced SocSec as "the third rail".

God help us.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-16   8:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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