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Title: Obama blasts Dobbs on demanding secure borders
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Published: Mar 15, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-03-15 19:39:56 by Jethro Tull
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Someone should ask Obama if he would allow open borders for all African-Africans to come here for a better life also.
LOL! Good one. Yes they should. Is he being racial by advocating for one group over another?
Exactly... Whether he answers yes or no he will be in hot water.
Obama's statements were political pandering of the highest order. I shall send him a f'you, nasty email to follow. But, all in all, it's an A+ post for you. You finally fell onto the right side of an issue even though you couldn't resist a bigoted no-sense punch below the belt while you were at it.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot Actually, it is far worse than Dobbs says. Both Hillary and Obama have said they would refuse to enforce the borders until Congress passed a Path to Citizenship (i.e. Amnesty.) The dollar is sinking like a rock because we do not export enough to buy all of our imported oil. Every time we add 10,000,000 people we have to import 100% of the oil they consume. This drives up the price of oil in dollars and drives down our real wages. If we pass Amnesty, we will add 22,000,000 citizens to our population immediately and another 22,000,000 in a few years. That means we will have to print even more dollars to buy oil. At some point the dollar will go into freefall until the price of oil is so high that 50% of all Americans cannot afford to buy gasoline to get to work and we have to live off the oil we can pump domestically. Obama, Hillary and McCain are all saying that you will be taking a 50% after tax paycut. And, that if you object, you are a racist whose views need not be considered. Lou Dobbs' wife is a Mexican with a lot of Indian ancestors so I doubt he is motivated by racism.
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As he should be. In truth this question should be asked of ALL the candidates.
One has to be wary of any person that is free and easy with the descriptive terms "bigot" and "racist". Keeping with the subject in hand, Obama is talking about a RACE, namely Latinos, and I was talking about African-Africans. When you read bigotry into that you are looking for something to attack someone for, not to discuss anything. Keep your personal opinions as to what I am to yourself.
Paul is the only candidate that pandered to no one. That got him 5 per cent of the vote.
When it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck .....
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot That got him 5 per cent of the vote. Yes but like McClintock he decided to stick with the party rather than continue the revolution. I believe the 5% is because of vote fraud. He seemed to have more than 5% support and the numbers of votes in his district just didn't add up.
So far you have painted yourself on this 4um in exactly that manner. If that is what you desire, so be it.
Mystery of this campaign, why the plug was pulled.
He was clearly addressing a voting block, which is and promises to be awesomely large no matter which of the three is nominated/elected, but why he was doing it after the TX primary was not only wrong-headed but pointless. At least you're consistently stupid.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot Cynicom is enthusiastically against everyone and everything. He contributes nothing but negativity to the discussion. I try to ignore him, but alas, I guess he goes back on the bozo list.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot Unusual language for this forum, no?
I am sure if you really try you could come up with some very good language. Normally those that lack adequate social manners stoop to name calling and gutter vulgarisms. I have no words I care to subscribe to you. I do not believe I have never called you stupid and I have to wonder why you see fit to do so. If you do not care to read what I post, ignore or bozo, whatever pleases you. In return, with your total lack of civility and common manners, you are demonstrating your character here for all to see.
Cynicom is enthusiastically against everyone and everything. He contributes nothing but negativity to the discussion, and is well named. I try to ignore him, but alas, I guess he goes back on the bozo list.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot Fortunately, unusual target.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot I try to ignore him, but alas, I guess he goes back on the bozo list. There is a place for that. I don't do bozo. I don't believe in it. Only one person has me on bozo so far and that was after the last heavy climate debate. Oh well, if they don't want to see what I have to say...
Some Kenyan was interviewed and said he hoped Barak would be President, because he (Barak) would buy him (the Kenyan) a new motorbike.
The stupider people are the more surprised they are when you kill them.
then it's a duck. To you, a racist duck.
The stupider people are the more surprised they are when you kill them.
Do I need a passport to move into the Ozarks?? Are most of the natives friendly to furriners? I am a fellow hill billy, maybe they would consider that? And yes, I use to eat squirrel.
Very friendly. See the "Deliverance" movie. They really bond with you quickly.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Naturally, most folks assume that these candidates believe in some undefined right of people to seek a better life, but that's not it at all. In fact, both parties defend the corporations' "right" to cheap, exploitable labor -people who can be unlawfully locked into fire traps to prevent "inventory shrinkage", disciplined with cattle prods, made to work unpaid overtime and who cannot even complain because of a language barrier that doesn't prevent them from working like slaves, but does minimize redress of grievances regardless of their validity. The Tyson chicken plant that burned here in DE years ago had the emergency panic exit door hardware disabled and the doors chained to keep employees from swiping a chicken or two for their own hungry families. In a *state that produces 4 billion dollars worth of plump fryers every year there is no plan to supply the lowest workers on the food chain with chickens at cost. That's too much like charity, it isn't tax deductible, and like the Wal Mart bazillionaires the Tyson Foods people just can't spare it. (What are we, Japanese?) The day that Exxon donates home heating oil to minimize winter killed poor people in America (like Chavez does, that rotten commie bastard!) is the day that Tyson and Wal Mart will let their employees buy necessities at cost. My former oil company boss told me that he paid taxes and that's all the obligation he has to his employees, and that's why he didn't have a health plan. And, while he was telling me that his Republican buddies were quietly lobbying to eliminate the income tax on corporations and make it a withholding tax only! Yeah, the corporate types would like nothing better than if we worker bees supported the less fortunate among us. But, when Exxon spilled a few billion crankcases full of Alaskan crude in Prince William Sound, they didn't insist that only the rich help the rich. They were downright cheerful at the prospect that taxpayers would subsidize the coast guard, the engineers, wildlife professionals, and as far as I know EXXON never gave the volunteers from Delaware who washed the animals a nickel. * EDIT The industry encompasses the DelMarVa peninsula. Parts of MD, DE and VA make up the 4 bil per yr industry here.
As long as you ain't black or Mexican or Jewish, nothing else is needed.
The stupider people are the more surprised they are when you kill them.
Hey! You mess with me, I'll twist your boob and make you cry like a girl!
The stupider people are the more surprised they are when you kill them.
Yew musta really rained on someone's parade! ;)
Guess so. But then who is to say they didn't put all participants on bozo?
Correcto.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot Hey! You mess with me, I'll twist your boob and make you cry like a girl! Actually, WHERE THE RED FERN GROWS is a much nicer movie about The Ozarks.
Guess so. But then who is to say they didn't put all participants on bozo? That's right. Since I take no pleasure in internet rancor I'd rather be ignored than blindsided by avenging angels and Simian fairie godparents. (with JD degrees ;) ) You know the old saying, Winning an argument on the net is like winning in The Special Olympics. Even if you win you're still "extremely gifted and special and you can do anything if you put your mind to it!" ;)
Guess so. But then who is to say they didn't put all participants on bozo? For what it's worth, neither of you have ever been under consideration for inclusion on my very exclusive bozo list (3 at the moment). I do not believe you would be comfortable in their exclusive company, there or anywhere else. ;-) I do not put persons there for any reason other than that they drive me to a place where I would rather not be. The shame for that is at least as much on me as them. Just claiming Irish heritage does not pardon it.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot Turtle... I answer to all of the following. White trash..redneck..hill billy..ridge runner..stump jumper..cracker..wood hick Is'nt it odd that those choice names have never made it on the "PC" list.
Wrong. If you hate all three traits, you aren't in the Ozarks, you are in your own internal hell. I hope you get a Negro Rabbi of Mexican heritage as your next close neighbor.
No, but being of Irish stock myself I can understand it. You have me really curious as to who is on your list.
Mike... In the past I have had all three for next door neighbors, and moved every time. In Baltimore Jewish real estate blockbusters brought in blacks with dozens of rental kids. Homes were bought for pennies on the dollar. Three families were put in one family homes. My old home in NYC is all south of the border, trash as far as you can see. I dont go there anymore.
Maybe I'll P-mail yuh, they're real doozies. They either don't post much anymore or my bozo worked. ;-)
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot They really bond with you quickly lol
cool!
If I'm not mistaken, "Deliverance" was supposedly sited considerably east of the Ozarks.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot very illuminating post
I answer to all of the following. White trash..redneck..hill billy..ridge runner..stump jumper..cracker..wood hick Is'nt it odd that those choice names have never made it on the "PC" list. I know where you're going with this. Sure, you're good natured as all heck because you enjoy "white skin privilege! Howard Hughes knew what that meant! (watch and Jane will blink) To prove that you're not a "racist" or a "hater" you need to accept different standards of beauty". You can prove yourself worthy by walking with this lovely creature on your arm.... If I'm not mistaken, "Deliverance" was supposedly sited considerably east of the Ozarks. Well, I didn't wanna be a know-it-all but DELIVERANCE was supposed to be in GA. So, that would be closer to the Blue Ridge Mountains.
Thanks, Teenie!
How do ya feel about us Injuns? At least I'm part Injun (even though I don't really look it). Oh, and I don't have a big nose even though a lot of my ancestors were Jewish. And my family was "Old South" before the term was invented. (Also they had a lot of errr, ummm, "employees" in the 1790 Census.)
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
If Custer was around we could ask his opinion. hehehehehehe
Hey! You mess with me, I'll twist your boob and make you cry like a girl! I thought you did that last night. And the master card you presented for the $1500 at the five diamond girl mart was declined, so I am going to reposess the Safeway cart you gave me as collateral. She wants her panties back as well.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Turtles wearing them. Now he has two pair.
She tell me she dosen't want them back any more. All is forgiven, except for the peacock thing. She said you would know. We don't have to know everything.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" I'm part Assiniboine so I might have had an ancestor at the Little Bighorn, but not with the Cavalry. Hee, he, he, he, he.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Dear Iconoclast We still live in the United
States, therefore what happens to one state, happens to all. The Illegal
invasion isn't limited to the SW (Oh, how I wish it were). In Ohio, where you
live, illegals have set up shop as they have here in PA. I pray your
liberalism subsides before your kids and grand kids are forced to learn
Spanish, but I hold no hope. Your acquaintance to the Wave might assuage your
guilt, but it will surely leave your kids knee deep in s**t. PS: Why is it
Obamaphiles have trouble staying on topic? Their kneejerk reaction to
criticism of their candidate is a FReeperlike attack of the poster.
Obama has nothing behind his platitudes and neither do his followers.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
I am vehemently for protected borders and sovereignty. Who should my candidate be? Lamentably the Mexican border seems to have replaced SocSec as "the third rail". God help us.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot Who should my candidate be? Well, certainly it shouldn't be someone - who by his own words - doesn't hold those values.
Damn, well done. There is no one on this
forum who appreciates more than I do a simple sentence that speaks volumes.
Bravo.
How do ya feel about us Injuns? The Ozarks was settled by the Scots-Irish and their attitude has always been, "Don't bother me and I won't bother you." It's more of a "do what you want in private but not in public thing." The traditional dislike of blacks, Mexicans and Jews has been based on their obnoxious and crimimal behavior. Branson has a fair amount of gays, due to its being an entertainment center, but you never see them displaying it in public. There are even some Asians there. I've seen what appear to be Chinese girls as waitresses at Lammerts (which is the place where they throw rolls at you from across the room).
The stupider people are the more surprised they are when you kill them.
Turtles wearing them. Now he has two pair. She'll have to get them off of my head! At least I wear them in private, not public. Well, not yet.
The stupider people are the more surprised they are when you kill them.
There is very little crime here, because nearly everyone is white. Where there are blacks, and Mexicans, and Jews, there is crime, death, and destruction. There are really no liberals there, either, because liberals also bring those things. People leave their doors unlocked and neighbors just walk in and out. Hell is where you live. It's so degraded adults steal bikes, which you have admitted many times.
The stupider people are the more surprised they are when you kill them.
Well, of the three choices we have, Obama is in the lowest favor of Hispanics and Zionists .... if he is nominated and elected he's going to turn one way or the other on these critical issue areas. It's damn little to cling to but I am not a believer in protest write-ins. If I wrote in anyone's name it would probably be Robt. A Taft, the last politician with whom I feel a full kinship. How silly would that be? McCain and HRC represent for me utterly perfect examples of the dry rot in our political system ... hence my position and the sentiment in my tag line.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
I'll not dispute your claim of of life in a crime free paradise, and if you're happy there, more power to yuh. I'd add only this. Crime, "living in sin", welfare cheating, fathering and abandoning and/or abusing poor little bastards has become as American as apple pie .... and it's an equal opportunity scene. This hasn't fallen upon us suddenly. As many as 40+ years ago my uncle had a deer cabin in far northern MI. It became necessary to clear such places,so far as possible, of anything of any value when you were not actually inhabiting them. Break-ins were as regular and predictable as rain from heaven. And believe me, there wasn't a black, Jew, or Mexican within 200 miles of the area.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
I dare say the age old desire to pull one's self up by pushing another group(s) down has a bit to do with it.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
No one has to push blacks and Mexicans down. They do it to themselves. If they believe it's being done to them here, they can go back to the homelands. Oh, wait...white culture is essentially decent and black and Mexican culture isn't...that's why they're moving here and not whites moving there. As for Jews, they've been expelled over 80 times in less than 2000 years, That's not anti-Semitisim. They're bringing their problems on themselves.
The stupider people are the more surprised they are when you kill them.
Charles Manson, Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacey, Richard Speck, Dick Hickock and Perry Smith (Kansas murders), the entire panoply of prohibition gangsters, and on and on.. Sad little man in a hateful little self invented world.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
iconoclast, I feel your pain. The lesser of three evils in one hell of a way to cast your vote. I've grown weary of these Hopkins's choices, hence my dropping out. Read what I posted to noone regarding LBJs 1948 senatorial (s)election. Our system reeks.
Obama's hope based campaign has a bittersweet irony to it now that the contest has narrowed down to his opposing two indisputable scoundrels.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot
I totally hear you, and on a purely selfish note I'd much rather see Obama & Michelle in the WH than the Clinton's. I despise them, whereas Obama hasn't irritated me to any degree as yet.
#2. To: Cynicom (#1)
Someone should ask Obama if he would allow open borders for all African-Africans to come here for a better life also.
Vote Republicrat or Democin, it doesn't matter, you still get McHillobama
#3. To: farmfriend (#2)
Yes they should. Is he being racial by advocating for one group over another?
#4. To: Cynicom (#1)
(Edited)
Someone should ask Obama if he would allow open borders for all African-Africans to come here for a better life also.
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire
#5. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#6. To: Cynicom (#3)
Whether he answers yes or no he will be in hot water.
Vote Republicrat or Democin, it doesn't matter, you still get McHillobama
#7. To: iconoclast (#4)
you couldn't resist a bigoted no-sense punch below the belt while you were at it.
#8. To: farmfriend (#6)
#9. To: Cynicom (#7)
One has to be wary of any person that is free and easy with the descriptive terms "bigot" and "racist".
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire
#10. To: Cynicom (#8)
Paul is the only candidate that pandered to no one.
Vote Republicrat or Democin, it doesn't matter, you still get McHillobama
#11. To: iconoclast (#9)
When it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck .....
#12. To: farmfriend (#10)
Yes but like McClintock he decided to stick with the party rather than continue the revolution.
#13. To: Cynicom (#7)
Keeping with the subject in hand, Obama is talking about a RACE, namely Latinos, and I was talking about African-Africans.
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire
#14. To: farmfriend (#10)
Yes but like McClintock he decided to stick with the party rather than continue the revolution.
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire
#15. To: iconoclast (#13)
At least you're consistently stupid.
#16. To: iconoclast (#13)
(Edited)
At least you're consistently stupid.
#17. To: farmfriend, Cynicom (#10)
Yes but like McClintock he decided to stick with the party rather than continue the revolution.
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire
#18. To: buckeye (#15)
Unusual language for this forum, no?
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire
#19. To: iconoclast (#14)
He contributes nothing but negativity to the discussion.
Vote Republicrat or Democin, it doesn't matter, you still get McHillobama
#20. To: Cynicom (#1)
Someone should ask Obama if he would allow open borders for all African-Africans to come here for a better life also.
#21. To: iconoclast (#9)
When it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck .....
#22. To: YertleTurtle (#20)
#23. To: Cynicom (#22)
Are most of the natives friendly to furriners?
#24. To: Horse (#5)
(Edited)
Actually, it is far worse than Dobbs says. Both Hillary and Obama have said they would refuse to enforce the borders until Congress passed a Path to Citizenship (i.e. Amnesty.)
#25. To: Cynicom (#22)
Do I need a passport to move into the Ozarks??
#26. To: tom007 (#23)
See the "Deliverance" movie.
#27. To: farmfriend (#19)
(Edited)
...Only one person has me on bozo so far and that was after the last heavy climate debate....
#28. To: HOUNDDAWG (#27)
Yew musta really rained one someone's parade! ;)
Vote Republicrat or Democin, it doesn't matter, you still get McHillobama
#29. To: YertleTurtle (#21)
then it's a duck. To you, a racist duck.
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire
#30. To: YertleTurtle, tom007, Cynicom (#26)
See the "Deliverance" movie.
#31. To: farmfriend (#28)
Yew musta really rained one someone's parade! ;)
#32. To: farmfriend, HOUNDDAWG (#28)
Yew musta really rained one someone's parade! ;)
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire
#33. To: YertleTurtle (#25)
#34. To: YertleTurtle (#25)
"As long as you ain't black or Mexican or Jewish, nothing else is needed."
Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggy, till you find a large rock.
#35. To: iconoclast, HOUNDDAWG (#32)
Just claiming Irish heritage does not pardon it.
Vote Republicrat or Democin, it doesn't matter, you still get McHillobama
#36. To: Ferret Mike (#34)
#37. To: farmfriend (#35)
You have me really curious as to who is on your list.
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire
#38. To: tom007 (#23)
See the "Deliverance" movie.
#39. To: iconoclast (#37)
Maybe I'll P-mail yuh, they're real doozies.
Vote Republicrat or Democin, it doesn't matter, you still get McHillobama
#40. To: HOUNDDAWG (#30)
Actually, WHERE THE RED FERN GROWS is a much nicer movie about The Ozarks.
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire
#41. To: HOUNDDAWG (#24)
#42. To: Cynicom, Jethro Tull (#33)
Turtle...
#43. To: iconoclast (#40)
Actually, WHERE THE RED FERN GROWS is a much nicer movie about The Ozarks.
#44. To: christine (#41)
(Edited)
#45. To: YertleTurtle (#25)
As long as you ain't black or Mexican or Jewish, nothing else is needed.
#46. To: Original_Intent (#45)
#47. To: YertleTurtle (#26)
See the "Deliverance" movie.
#48. To: tom007 (#47)
She wants her panties back as well.
#49. To: Cynicom, turtle (#48)
#50. To: Cynicom (#46)
If Custer was around we could ask his opinion. hehehehehehe
#51. To: iconoclast (#13)
He was clearly addressing a voting block, which is and promises
to be awesomely large no matter which of the three is nominated/elected, but
why he was doing it after the TX primary was not only wrong-headed but
pointless.
#52. To: Jethro Tull (#51)
#53. To: Jethro Tull (#51)
I pray your liberalism subsides before your kids and grand kids are forced to learn Spanish, but I hold no hope. Your acquaintance to the Wave might assuage your guilt, but it will surely leave your kids knee deep in s**t.
OBAMA/WEBB IN 2008
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Voltaire
#54. To: iconoclast (#53)
I am vehemently for protected borders and sovereignty.
#55. To: mirage (#52)
Obama has nothing behind his platitudes and neither do his
followers.
#56. To: Original_Intent (#45)
As long as you ain't black or Mexican or Jewish, nothing else is needed.
#57. To: Cynicom (#48)
(Edited)
She wants her panties back as well.
#58. To: Ferret Mike (#34)
Wrong. If you hate all three traits, you aren't in the Ozarks, you are in your own internal hell. I hope you get a Negro Rabbi of Mexican heritage as your next close neighbor.
#59. To: Jethro Tull (#54)
Well, certainly it shouldn't be someone - who by his own words - doesn't hold those values.
#60. To: YertleTurtle, Ferret Mike (#58)
There is very little crime here, because nearly everyone is white. Where there are blacks, and Mexicans, and Jews, there is crime, death, and destruction.
#61. To: YertleTurtle (#56)
The traditional dislike of blacks, Mexicans and Jews has been based on their obnoxious and crimimal behavior.
#62. To: iconoclast (#61)
I dare say the age old desire to pull one's self up by pushing another group(s) down has a bit to do with it.
#63. To: YertleTurtle (#62)
Oh, wait...white culture is essentially decent
#64. To: iconoclast (#59)
#65. To: Jethro Tull (#64)
The lesser of three evils in one hell of a way to cast your vote.
#66. To: iconoclast (#65)
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