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Title: Hate group plans funeral protest [Religious Group to Disrupt Slain Soldier's Funeral]
Source: Marblehead Reporter
URL Source: http://www2.townonline.com/marblehe ... g?articleid=273702&format=text
Published: Jun 28, 2005
Author: Marlene Switzer
Post Date: 2005-06-28 16:32:05 by crack monkey
Keywords: [Religious, Soldiers, Funeral]
Views: 315
Comments: 20

Hate group plans funeral protest

By Marlene Switzer/ marblehead@cnc.com

Thursday, June 23, 2005

Marblehead police are readying for a possible hate group protest that threatens to mar the privacy and solemnity of a local man's military funeral. A radical Midwestern group has announced its intention to rally at the Marblehead funeral of U.S. Army Special Forces Staff Sgt. Christopher N. Piper, who died June 15 at Brooke Army Medical Center of wounds suffered in action in Afghanistan on June 3.

The Kansas-based Westboro Baptist Church, proclaiming "thank God for IEDs" or roadside bombs, claims the attacks on September 11 and American deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan are God's vengeance on a nation that is tolerant of homosexuality.

"It's going to shock and enrage every person who sees it. That is our goal," said Margie Phelps, daughter of WBC leader Fred Phelps, commenting on the planned protest.

The group is based in Topeka, Kansas, and has made headlines protesting homosexuality at school events, graduations and mainstream churches. Representatives of the hate group have said they would protest at the funerals of two Massachusetts soldiers who were killed in action because the slain heroes "were cast into hell to join many more dishonorable Americans."

Margie Phelps said her father is a self-declared prophet.

"He hasn't been sent to save. He's been sent to condemn," she said, adding that group members have protested the funerals of 11 slain soldiers across the nation in the past two weeks.

Marblehead veterans service agent David Rodgers said, "I don't understand people like that. Any disrespect shown towards him [Piper] and his family is beyond my imagination."

Faced with the possibility that a public display by such a hate group could draw a large number of emotionally charged counter protesters to town, Marblehead Police Chief James Carney is taking no chances. Wednesday he said he was planning a Thursday strategy meeting with town police, fire and EMS representatives, as well as other law enforcement officials experienced with riot control, to come up with a plan for maintaining order.

Carney said he was expecting to call on a combination of state police and officers from the North Eastern Massachusetts Law Enforcement Council, of which Marblehead is a member community, to bolster the very small local police contingent.

The chief believes there can't be too much law enforcement presence in such a situation. In fact, he is confident that insuring an orderly public protest will serve as a deterrent to the situation erupting into a dangerous confrontation.

"This is a publicity-hungry group that has latched onto the reprehensible tactic of appearing at soldiers' funerals," Carney said of the group that threatens to appear at Sgt. Piper's funeral.

Margie Phelps said the protests may be disruptive to family members, but "as long as it's being made into a public ordeal, then all bets are off."

She added, "Thank God for the mortar. Thank God for the shell that came from the gun. Thank God for the fact that it killed the fruit of America to punish it for its sins."

The wake, funeral and procession to the cemetery for Sgt. Piper could draw a large number of mourners, regardless of whether the protest takes place, so Carney recommends motorists avoid Elm Street Sunday from 7-10 p.m., and Green, lower Washington and Waterside streets Monday until about noon.

Boston Herald reporter O'Ryan Johnson contributed to this report.

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#2. To: crack monkey (#0)

Oh gawd.. it's that Pastor Phelps.. the "God Hates Gays" faux preacher.. sick man.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-06-28   16:35:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah, crack monkey, jhoffa_, christine (#2)

Although I know little about this group and based on what I see I don't agree with them, the use of the Marxism drenched 'hate group' smear in the article is troubling.

The usage of the term 'hate group' throughout the piece is noteworthy. It is never explained who gave the group this label or how it came about. How does this reporter know that the members of this Church hate gays? She did not even interview any of them to see whether they do, in fact, hate gays. What is with the subtle conditioning in the media?

There should have been coverage of this group so Americans could make up their minds on the group. But there was none. This is another subtle example of how we no longer have a free press. The group is a hate group, period. No questions asked or no other possibilities. Americans now know that when the govt gives special rights to groups, then most opposition to that group can be called hate, and Americans have no right to make up their own minds about many issues. Seems some issues have 'rights'.

I mention all this because the term hate group, the way they are using it, could be used against any group of Americans that tries to question another group that has received special status from the govt. The special status of a protected group could be used to advance the agenda of the group by assigning it victim status and protecting against all criticism, not only 'hateful' criticism. The special interest group receiving the special rights even gets to choose what is hateful when it comes to criticism and opposition that group faces. The only goal of the group is to advance its own agenda at the expense of Americans, when necessary. And they will always call all criticism 'hate' because the govt has allowed them the special group status.

While a collectivist system gives power to groups, its important to note that the power has to come from somewhere- it comes from individuals (we give it up), who are stripped of rights and not allowed to join together and form a group of their own- a majority group. The mechanism for this is mainly psychological- Americans feel that forming a majority group to oppose minority groups attacking them is somehow inherently evil- an attack on those who have been victimized already by their very nature. This majority group would face real resistance as well, from a coalition of the 100's of minority groups which rightly perceive the gaining of power by the majority could be at their expense. Attacking the majority is the one thing that unites all the special interest groups in a collectivist system. All this appears to be textbook Marxism in action- not unlike the system that helped bring down Russia early in the 20th century.

This is a great example why groups should never be given rights by a government. Is it any wonder the individual is under assault in this nation? The govt is assigning rights to groups all over the place and increasing their power they exercise on the majority as a group and individuals in the majority. Meanwhile, the govt is taking away rights from individuals as seen in the Patriot Acts- basically ending the all important right to privacy. The joining of corps and govt is also troubling. In DC, I read about a huge, new office complex specifically dedicated to handling the business of corps and govt coming together. If the fed govt colludes against Americans in the majority with special interest groups, then it will, without doubt, collude with corps against Americans as well. It simply does so by it's very nature at this point.

Bayonne  posted on  2005-06-28   20:04:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Bayonne (#7)

It is never explained who gave the group this label or how it came about. How does this reporter know that the members of this Church hate gays? She did not even interview any of them to see whether they do, in fact, hate gays. What is with the subtle conditioning in the media?

Look at their website: http://www.GodHatesFags.com

They have pictures of them pickiting funerals with signs saying things like: "Thank God He's Dead". Little kids with "I hate fags" shirts, the whole nine yards. Lots of printed material that just drips hate.

I didn't realize that Rush and Hannity were being Marxists when they used the term "Hate Group" on a daily basis. Rush used it several times today. I don't see Limbaugh as being a communist though.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-06-28   20:46:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: crack monkey (#10)

I don't see Limbaugh as being a communist though.

Oh I do.. hes in bed with the Trotskyite neocons.. hes one of them.

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