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Title: RBN [Republic Broadcasting Network] Truth Tellers or Refuge for Scoundrels ???
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Published: Mar 16, 2008
Author: Doug Scheidt
Post Date: 2008-03-16 10:41:38 by noone222
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Views: 735
Comments: 86

I have been an ardent supporter of RBN from its inception and truly appreciate all of the efforts of John Stadtmiller and those others that have supported his efforts to provide an honest forum for debate about each and every topic confronting a once free society, which brings me to this posting.

This morning I have listened to a relative new-comer to RBN, Tom Kovach, cut off nearly every caller (myself included) that simply wished to discuss the root elements of the catastrophe approaching. Mr. Kovach was overwhelmed with students of historical truth that woiuld not be persuaded by his PRO-SEMETIC truth serum. Ray Charles can see that the so-called JEWS have had a perpetual negative effect upon every social environment wherein they have resided.

It appears (to me) that Kovach has been instructed to confer the British-Israel Tag upon anyone that points out the disproportionate amount of carnage left behind by the so-called "JEWS" throughout history. I would add that I don't believe it's John Stadtmiller's instruction that guides Kovach.

Since we're on the subject of fake patriots ... does anyone on this forum perceive Tommy Crier, Larry Becraft and some others as gate-keepers ? I want to ask because I see them as perpetuating the convolluted approach to taxation that requires each case to be "TRIED" on its own merit in a "CROOKED" courtroom filled with other Lawyers. An example of the convusion maintained by this sort of dissembling can be readily seen by the results had by Ed and Elaine Brown or Sherry Jackson as opposed to Tommy (Lawyer) Crier, or Joe (Former IRS Agent)Bannister.

Personally I think Becraft ad Crier are disinfo-provocateurs herding the uninformed newby into another govt. corral. Leaving them to hire another attorney to "defend" them against a library of statutes written in english but often "only" understood by lawyers.

Personally, if someone that claims to be knowledgeable of history and the Bible, yet supports the notion of a legitimate State of Israel ... they are either too stupid or too co-opted to listen to seriously. (In the case of Crier and Becraft ... they're lawyers and that speaks for itself.)

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#1. To: noone222 (#0)

Sheer genius, Doug.

"Patriots vs the Jooooos"

I don't know why Ron Paul didn't just come straight out and make this the center piece of his campaign. /s

The same trash lording over Israel lords over America and this is all you have.

Is it any wonder?? 100% predictablility.

Personally, if someone that claims to be knowledgeable of history and the Bible, yet supports the notion of a legitimate State of Israel ... they are either too stupid or too co-opted to listen to seriously

LOLOL! Do you support the notion of a 'legimate State of uSA'?

There are a plenty of people that come to this site (for 1 visit) and wonder who the real provocateurs are...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-16   11:03:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

St. Augustine --> Martin Luther --> Adolf Hitler --> ???

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-16   11:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: FOH (#1)

Do you support the notion of a 'legimate State of uSA'?

Good question ... probably not. Your question certainly begs the further question ... would the world be a better place without the U.S. ? Current conditions would force me to answer that it would be better off without us (U.S.)

And the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the purpose of enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder their people, are among the greatest villains that the world has ever seen. And they as much deserve to be hunted and killed (if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave traders, robbers, or pirates that ever lived. ... Lysander Spooner

noone222  posted on  2008-03-16   11:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: noone222 (#3) (Edited)

Good question ... probably not. Your question certainly begs the further question ... would the world be a better place without the U.S. ? Current conditions would force me to answer that it would be better off without us (U.S.)

It is a good question, Doug.

The correct answer is that we (Americans) need to take control of America back from the Amerikans while the rest of the smelly globe deals (or not) with their own problems.

_______  posted on  2008-03-16   11:15:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: FOH (#1)

The same trash lording over Israel lords over America and this is all you have.

I would extend the "lording over" to the entire industrialized world and exclude most Arab Nations to some degree.

And the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the purpose of enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder their people, are among the greatest villains that the world has ever seen. And they as much deserve to be hunted and killed (if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave traders, robbers, or pirates that ever lived. ... Lysander Spooner

noone222  posted on  2008-03-16   11:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#0)

Personally, if someone that claims to be knowledgeable of history and the Bible, yet supports the notion of a legitimate State of Israel ... they are either too stupid or too co-opted to listen to seriously.

Agree.

Lod  posted on  2008-03-16   11:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: _______ (#4)

we need to take control of America back from the Amerikans while the rest of the smelly globe deals (or not) with their own problems...

Direct hit !

And the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the purpose of enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder their people, are among the greatest villains that the world has ever seen. And they as much deserve to be hunted and killed (if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave traders, robbers, or pirates that ever lived. ... Lysander Spooner

noone222  posted on  2008-03-16   11:17:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: noone222, _______ (#7)

We have to get our priorities in line gentle people!

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-16   11:20:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: FOH (#1)

There are a plenty of people that come to this site (for 1 visit) and wonder who the real provocateurs are...

Do you have a few guidelines for distinguishing one from the other?

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-16   11:21:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: noone222 (#5)

and exclude most Arab Nations to some degree.

I wouldn't; I might exclude a large, oil-rich Persian one though...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-16   11:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeye (#9)

No, I just get lots of feedback from the people I refer this site to.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-16   11:22:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: FOH (#11)

What are their typical concerns?

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-16   11:23:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: noone222 (#0)

The problem with rants like this is that it takes a few valid observations and then twists them to an unsupported conclusion.

Yes, Israel was formed by force - as were most of the nations on this planet.

Yes, certainly SOME Jews are criminals and are part of the cabal pulling this world down into the muck, BUT it is not ALL Jews which is the false equation attempted.

One could make similar aspersions against WASPs because of the actions of SOME. It would be no more true than the attempt to blame Jews for all the ills of the world.

The problems we face are created by a small percentage who originate in no one ethnic genetic line but are surrounded and defined by their ACTIONS not their genetics or ethnics.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-03-16   11:24:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeye (#12)

The 'spirit of Hitler' manifesting and the right of Israel to exist.

#s 1 & 2.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-16   11:25:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeye, FOH (#12)

What are their typical concerns?

As well one might address their concerns by stating that expressing an opposing or contrasting view is how one illuminates and dispels the shadows.

Perhaps they simply don't feel up to the task in which case they are wrong. When you speak the truth it dispels the dark as it is many times more powerful.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-03-16   11:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Original_Intent (#13)

It cost Ron Paul the 'base' he should have been able to draw freely from...too many RP supporters and too many 'Christians' just don't get it and now we're going to have King Juan or Queen Hillary to preside over the crises and new union.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-16   11:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: FOH (#14)

This could get to be an interesting discussion as it is the kind of philosophic issues that cut to the heart of why people think and believe as they do. Very powerful concepts those. Unfortunately I have to run, but I'll pop back in this evening.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-03-16   11:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent, buckeye (#15)

Most people are running in circles and are pleased they have time to do anything but work and raise their family. Critical thinking and time for research are a luxury most can not afford. They happy to not have to work Sundays so they can fellowship with other believers...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-16   11:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Original_Intent (#13)

Yes, Israel was formed by force - as were most of the nations on this planet.

Then we should have zero concern if the Muslims in the ME decide to use force to eradicate Israel?

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-16   11:30:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent (#17)

Alright my friend.

It's good that you're so smart, perceptive and thoughtful...really good.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-16   11:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: FOH (#16)

Interesting comment which deserves a thought out reply for which I don't have time at the moment. I really do have to run.

Keep the shiny side up ....

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-03-16   11:32:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#19)

Exactly!

Nor should we be concerned if Israel miraculously once again lights them up...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-16   11:32:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent (#21)

You too and stop by your local ammo supplier to get another chunk of self defense provisions while you're out today! ;)

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-16   11:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#19)

Yes, Israel was formed by force - as were most of the nations on this planet.

Then we should have zero concern if the Muslims in the ME decide to use force to eradicate Israel?

I didn't say that. I oppose ALL mass murders and state crimes. More hate, injustice, and war solves nothing it just creates more misery. I do have to go though so I can't expand into a more nuanced reply.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-03-16   11:34:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Original_Intent (#13)

The problems we face are created by a small percentage who originate in no one ethnic genetic line but are surrounded and defined by their ACTIONS not their genetics or ethnics.

So true same thing could be said about Christians.....Christians or should I say the evangelical ones (small %) have defined what a Christian should be and we end up with some hybrid thing called Judeo-Christians

robnoel  posted on  2008-03-16   11:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Original_Intent (#24)

I didn't say that.

Get you when you return OI.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-16   11:36:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Original_Intent (#24)

That's my personal conviction, too.

However, the American nation has no business (let alone Constitutional provision) entangling ourselves in the age old messes or even the new messes...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-16   11:37:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: FOH (#27)

However, the American nation has no business (let alone Constitutional provision) entangling ourselves in the age old messes or even the new messes...

Amen.


Vote Republicrat or Democin, it doesn't matter, you still get McHillobama

farmfriend  posted on  2008-03-16   11:38:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: farmfriend (#28)

and Amen.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-16   11:39:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: FOH (#29)

Viva la Revolucion!

_______  posted on  2008-03-16   11:42:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Original_Intent (#24)

I oppose ALL mass murders and state crimes.

What's your take on Europeans settling North America by force?

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-16   11:56:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Original_Intent (#13)

Yes, Israel was formed by force - as were most of the nations on this planet.

(2). The problems we face are created by a small percentage who originate in no one ethnic genetic line but are surrounded and defined by their ACTIONS not their genetics or ethnics.

OK, most nations are created through force. Generally conquest is considered legitimate by international standards. Most are not created for false claimants through an international mandate issued by a total fiction (UN) and then implemented by the most powerful Nation States on earth. (Not to mention that the underlying claim that "God" (invisible) promised Abraham (never proven to be related to modern Jewry by DNA) some land (no witnesses to the promise) 5000 years ago.

But let's not get into that since your point about the legitimacy of any so- called Nation State is SUPER-VALID.

(2). On the one hand I would argue that murderers are more likely to be genetically pre-disposed than an accident of genetics or ethnicity. Like the big bang theory creating the perfection we see in everything around us is improbable, so is the takeover of the world by accident (IMHO)

I do agree that we need to rely upon their actions and not their genetics. I think we should use history as our guide and eliminate any institutionalized murderers we detect and any current FRAUD. Fake religions, fake moneychangers, fake governments ... let's have a little peaceful anarchy for awhile !

And the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the purpose of enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder their people, are among the greatest villains that the world has ever seen. And they as much deserve to be hunted and killed (if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave traders, robbers, or pirates that ever lived. ... Lysander Spooner

noone222  posted on  2008-03-16   11:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: robnoel (#25)

Judeo-Christians

These mutants are either conspiring against America or have little understanding of scripture. Judeo-Christianity is an oxy-moron, but promoted by those that wish for you to believe the fruit of the tree of life is a poison apple.

And the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the purpose of enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder their people, are among the greatest villains that the world has ever seen. And they as much deserve to be hunted and killed (if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave traders, robbers, or pirates that ever lived. ... Lysander Spooner

noone222  posted on  2008-03-16   12:05:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: noone222 (#0)

Personally I think Becraft ad Crier are disinfo-provocateurs herding the uninformed newby into another govt. corral.

i don't think so. i am thinking that's more likely the ones encouraging schemes outside of the system who get lots of good people in trouble. i think there's a group of lawyers, including Dickstein and John Green, who truly are fighting the good fight for themselves and their clients. i know that Cryer and Dickstein (Bannister's lawyer) have lost and sacrificed a lot themselves. my view of lawyers has changed over the last couple of years. i don't believe they're all bad and i believe there are some principled ones. let's face it, we do need them at times to deal within this system that is almost impossible to circumvent or extract from and live a normal life.

christine  posted on  2008-03-16   12:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: noone222 (#33) (Edited)

The Judeo-Christian Conflict: Zionism vs. Jesus

Charles E. Carlson Oct 23, 2007

Christian Zionism is a growing enigma to traditional Christians and to non-Christians alike. Most of those inside its churches are very certain of what they believe, but they are not at all sure why they believe it.

It is this author’s conclusion, based on personal observations at some 60 churches where Project Strait Gate has confronted and interviewed congregationand staff, that none of the dispensational or Judeo-Christian inside can open a New Testament and support what they believe from its pages. Most will not try. This paper is dedicated to the friends and families of some 60 million Americans who are in this dilemma.

The problem for Christ followers in Judeo-Christian churches is that their belief system varies depending on who is in the room, and what the subject is. If the subject is personal salvation for those who are present, Jesus Christ is the king, and His word is law, however many passages are avoided.

http://whtt.org/index.php?news=2&id=1843

Christian Zionism the movie

http://whtt.org/show/

robnoel  posted on  2008-03-16   12:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: robnoel (#25)

Christians or should I say the evangelical ones (small %) have defined what a Christian should be and we end up with some hybrid thing called Judeo-Christians

Marcion the first editor, compiler, of the New Testament ( Rome, AD 135-150) believed Paul the prophet had declared the Old Testament as fulfilled and concluded. Going a step farther, Marcion the real creator of the New Testament pronounced the Old Testament defeated and cancelled. He saw in Paul’s work only the basis on which to found the true religion of salvation, and he strove to cut everything Jewish out of it, down to the last detail. From end to end he was fighting nothing but Judaism. If he had had his way, the New Testament would have stood alone, without the evil corruption of Jehovah, Yahweh, the Demiurge, the Creator-God, whatever, and the burden to lesser humans of a Jewish master race in a book that was written by Jews and for Jews.

Well, as we all know, the early Roman Church canonized the Old Testament, and it has corrupted Christianity ever since. One could say that the popularity of the New Testament, carrying the Old along in its wake, has given legitimacy to the so-called Jews of today, imposters for the most part, with no connection to ancient Israel, let alone God.

If the Old Testament had not been included with the New, and if the Khazar Kingdom had not converted to Judaism eight centuries after Christ, Judaism likely would have perished as a major religion.

The key is the word, “Judeo,” as in Judeo-Christian. I must agree with Marcion, the real creator of the New Testament, that the symbiosis with the Old Testament not only confounds but defeats the good principals of Christianity. In the end the Old Testament may prove to be the poison that destroys the message of Christ, giving final victory to the modern-day Pharisees, i.e Zionism and its Christian Zionist syncopates..

-Z-.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-03-16   12:12:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Original_Intent (#24)

I oppose ALL mass murders and state crimes.

This is not a personal attack. I have to ask those that would instantly make the same remark if they are paying income taxes, paying interest on loans, depositing funds in banks etc., if they too oppose mass murder ... or are they guilty of financing it ?

Scripture states "They worship me with their lips only" ... Here's where true faith has an opportunity to prove itself out. We all know how ruthless the taxman can be, don't we ? Well, when 250 million voices say fuck you, the taxman will become a mouse. Faith in operation will not allow an honest person of faith to finance the murder of innocent people regardless of the lies the 501 (c)(3) pulpit prostitute teaches from Romans 13, or what our "christian" president spews.

People of operational (action based) faith have no fear of the IRS Mouse.

And the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the purpose of enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder their people, are among the greatest villains that the world has ever seen. And they as much deserve to be hunted and killed (if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave traders, robbers, or pirates that ever lived. ... Lysander Spooner

noone222  posted on  2008-03-16   12:14:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: FOH (#14)

People my 2 cents worth,

I fear that this incessant arguing over a horse that has already left the barn is futile. We are at a new stage in the game now. The OP is correct in accessing that something is amiss on RBN. I can further that notion by telling you that two associates of mine had their show cancelled recently by RBN. The whole shakedown of the station a couple of years back with accusations of Stadtmiller and Alex Jones splitting from them is still a big question mark in the movement.

However with the ratcheting up of the dollars demise and hyperinflation starting to take hold the PTB have moved the game to the next level. We don't have time to debate anymore. With uniting becoming a fleeting notion in the movement reality should be focused on self preservation. Do yourselves a favor and stop listening to people who are not at this level and listen to the ones who are at the stage of where the battle (or coming battle) is now. Get your dollars out of the banks immediately and purchase what you all know you need to survive the next stage. It is upon us!

MING THE MERCILESS  posted on  2008-03-16   12:17:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: christine (#34)

There's no question a dilemma exists. I also think that most law students start with the best of intentions, and somewhere along the path to the court room lose their goodness.

let's face it, we do need them at times to deal within this system

When an intelligent human being is denied justice within a system comprised entirely of lawyers because the person hasn't hired a lawyer (and about as often when one has hired a lawyer)... i reference Shakespeare and say ... kill all the lawyers.

And the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the purpose of enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder their people, are among the greatest villains that the world has ever seen. And they as much deserve to be hunted and killed (if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave traders, robbers, or pirates that ever lived. ... Lysander Spooner

noone222  posted on  2008-03-16   12:22:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: noone222 (#33)

Judeo-Christians

If you check out Judeo-Christian in most dictionaries, you will find it orignated in the late 19th Century, together with the rise of Zionism.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-03-16   12:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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