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War, War, War See other War, War, War Articles Title: New Yorker: Abu Ghraib abuses were 'de facto US policy' New Yorker: Abu Ghraib abuses were 'de facto US policy'
Some of the most iconic images of the Iraq war came not from photojournalists on the front lines, but US soldiers carrying point-and-shoot digital cameras. In its latest issue, the New Yorker profiles the woman who snapped many of the photos depicting abuse at Abu Ghraib prison that the same magazine revealed nearly four years ago.
Like many of the soldiers in charge of the detained Iraqis at Abu Ghraib, Sabrina Harman had little experience running a prison. As Philip Gourevitch and Errol Morris report, she and others in her Army Reserve unit didn't stick out at the prison, "where almost nothing was run according to military doctrine."
The article, which appears in the March 24 issue of the New Yorker, has not been posted online, but the magazine has posted additional photos and videos to augment the report.
Gourevitch and Morris trace Harman's evolving reactions to the horrors she witnesses -- "ricocheting from childish mockery to casual swagger to sympathy to cruelty to titillation to self-justification to self-doubt to outrage to identification to despair" -- through interviews and excerpts she sent home from the prison. In one October 2003 letter to Kelly, the woman Harman called her wife, the young MP writes what could now be seen as a grim foreshadow to the war in which American soldiers are still fighting and dying.
"These people will be our future terrorist," she writes one night after witnessing interrogators poking one detainees genitals with a stick and handcuffing another to his top bunk. "Kelly, its (sic) awful and you know how fucked I am in the head. Both sides of me think its (sic) wrong. I thought I could handle anything. I was wrong."
Harman and other soldiers told of taking prisoners' blankets and leaving them naked in bare cells while temperatures dipped near freezing. The New Yorker writers relay witness accounts of bones being found inside Abu Ghraib incinerators and prisoners being submerged in ice-filled trash cans.
She also told of women and children being held at the prison, according to the magazine.
She didn't like seeing children in prison "for no reason, just because of who your father was," but she didn't dwell on that.
The photos, Harman said, were intended to "expose what was being allowed ... what the military was allowing to happen to other people."
Subsequent investigations revealed that Gilligan was not who the Army's Criminal Investigative Division thought he was -- he was simply an innocent cab driver. His interrogators appeared to have little regard for how he was treated before that information came to light, though, Gourevitch and Morris report.
After the photos were made public, Harman and several of her fellow low-ranking reservists faced courts martial and were punished with reductions in rank and bad-conduct discharges. Only one person ranked above staff-sergeant faced charges, but was acquitted of criminal wrongdoing. No one has ever been charged with abuses that were not photographed, and charges against Harman related to her al-Jamadi photographs were thrown out (the CIA interrogator never faced charges, either).
Harman became increasingly unnerved by what she witnessed, and said she would simply try to forget whatever had happened the day before with each new morning. She was asked how the other MPs could participate in the abuses without similar reservations.
"They're more patriotic," is all she could say. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread
#1. To: Ada (#0)
bump to the top.
1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
Support the troops and vote dempublican.
I was told by one of the people in attendance at an interagency meeting in the Bush I administration that, at one point in that meeting, Bill Barr, then Attorney General, an old CIA hand, and now general counsel and executive VP at Verizon (where he must have been involved in the illegal NSA wiretapping), said, "F*** international law!" Richard Clarke reports in his book on 9/11 that, the evening of 9/11, at a meeting in the White House, Bush told Rumsfeld, "I don't care what the international lawyers say. We're going to kick some ass!"
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
If that's patriotism, it's the kind of patriotism that Dr. Johnson said is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I think she was being sarcastic.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. Thats what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.' Alan Dershowitz
The guy like that phrase. But he never does it, just gets his saps to do the kicking and maiming and dying. Yeh, a real leader. My "Worst Person in the World".
Richard Clarke reports in his book on 9/11 that, the evening of 9/11, at a meeting in the White House, Bush told Rumsfeld, "I don't care what the international lawyers say. We're going to kick some ass!" sickening As Pinguinite posted on another thread, "If you liked Bush, you'll just LOVE John McCain!!!"
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. Thats what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.' Alan Dershowitz
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