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Title: Obama Race Speech: The Full Text
Source: Huff Po
URL Source: [None]
Published: Mar 18, 2008
Author: Barack Obama
Post Date: 2008-03-18 11:13:50 by ghostdogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 5798
Comments: 286

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#1. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

This is a very good speech.

christine  posted on  2008-03-18   11:17:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   11:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: ghostdogtxn (#2)

I wonder how long it will take before somebody shows up here and says that.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   11:35:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: ghostdogtxn (#2)

hmmmmm..that's an interesting hypothesis that i hadn't thought of. regardless, i give the speech an A. he's a class act. i think it might win him the nomination assuming that votes of the people are counted.

christine  posted on  2008-03-18   11:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#1)

What would be even more amazing is if he wrote it himself. And I think it is quite likely that he did.

Imagine the Chimp writing his own speeches.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-03-18   11:40:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: aristeides (#3)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   11:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Sam Houston (#5)

it sure looked as though he did. not one time did i see him look down at notes. how refreshing is that compared to the chimp moron or even hillary.

christine  posted on  2008-03-18   11:42:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Sam Houston (#5)

He was making minor alterations -- almost always improvements -- to the written text as he was speaking. That strongly suggests that most -- if not all -- of the authorship was his.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   11:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#4)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   11:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

"The mendacity of hope."

Great speech though, from a technical perspective.

Red states? Blue states? It's an Obama nation!

Tauzero  posted on  2008-03-18   11:57:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: ghostdogtxn (#2)

Now who else thinks Obama engineered the whole Jeremiah Wright contraversy just so he could give this speech?

Naah. But he's a step ahead of his opposition (and his allies.)

Red states? Blue states? It's an Obama nation!

Tauzero  posted on  2008-03-18   11:59:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine (#1)

This is a very good speech.

Thanks cristine. I hope it becomes a milestone speech.

God bless America, with all its glory and warts.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   12:00:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Tauzero (#10)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   12:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Tauzero (#11)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   12:01:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: ghostdogtxn (#14)

In fact, a similar anger exists within segments of the white community. Most working- and middle-class white Americans don't feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race. Their experience is the immigrant experience - as far as they're concerned, no one's handed them anything, they've built it from scratch. They've worked hard all their lives, many times only to see their jobs shipped overseas or their pension dumped after a lifetime of labor. They are anxious about their futures, and feel their dreams slipping away; in an era of stagnant wages and global competition, opportunity comes to be seen as a zero sum game, in which your dreams come at my expense. So when they are told to bus their children to a school across town; when they hear that an African American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed; when they're told that their fears about crime in urban neighborhoods are somehow prejudiced, resentment builds over time.

Like the anger within the black community, these resentments aren't always expressed in polite company. But they have helped shape the political landscape for at least a generation. Anger over welfare and affirmative action helped forge the Reagan Coalition. Politicians routinely exploited fears of crime for their own electoral ends. Talk show hosts and conservative commentators built entire careers unmasking bogus claims of racism while dismissing legitimate discussions of racial injustice and inequality as mere political correctness or reverse racism.

Just as black anger often proved counterproductive, so have these white resentments distracted attention from the real culprits of the middle class squeeze - a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices, and short-term greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favor the few over the many. And yet, to wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist, without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns - this too widens the racial divide, and blocks the path to understanding.

Passages like that could win white working class votes.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   12:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: aristeides (#15)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   12:09:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

He simply says to everyone in the room, "I am here because of Ashley."

Inside joke?

Red states? Blue states? It's an Obama nation!

Tauzero  posted on  2008-03-18   12:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tauzero (#17)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   12:20:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: ghostdogtxn (#9)

agree. Obama stopped the clinton kitchen sink and threw it back at them. i don't think they can overcome this, but, but then, it all depends on who is the PTB selection....and it could still be mcCain. i'm thinking that because of his association with lieberman who is accompanying mcCain to Israel and the ME.

christine  posted on  2008-03-18   12:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

Judging by the way Limbaugh is demonizing Obama on the race issue right now I'd say the speech was very effective.

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...  posted on  2008-03-18   12:23:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#19)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   12:24:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: ... (#20)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   12:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

Outstanding speech.

Lod  posted on  2008-03-18   12:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: ghostdogtxn (#22)

Rush is now telling the goobers that Obama's speech is "Presidential Politics".

We'll now see yukon posting that when Obama stumps for President it's just Presidential politics.

Maybe Limbaugh should tell the goobers that when Obama takes a breath, he's just "sucking air". It is kind of hard to defend against this sort of stuff when there's a pack of morons out there just waiting to lap it up.

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...  posted on  2008-03-18   12:35:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: christine (#19)

and it could still be mcCain. i'm thinking that because of his association with lieberman who is accompanying mcCain to Israel and the ME.

If the Stupid party thinks Joe is going to corral a bunch of Jewish votes for them in November then they learned nothing from 2000.

The Jewish vote was not influenced one iota by the presence of him on the Dim ticket.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary....ce/US-Israel/jewvote.html

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   12:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

Race Speech

yeah..........

I see this whole "race" matter being the same as the "gay marriage" issue from '04.

Both are polarizing factors to divert Americans' attention away from the fact that the economy is in the toilet, there is an evil foreign occupation going on, the middle class is being systematically crushed, and the taxable earnings of the next 4 generations are being looted by off-shore "defense" contractors.

Neither issue has any real substance and neither issue can be resolved by our elected officials. Both are cultural issues and will never be changed by any government.

JMHO

Resist!

WhiteGuy  posted on  2008-03-18   12:54:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: WhiteGuy (#26)

Neither issue has any real substance and neither issue can be resolved by our elected officials. Both are cultural issues and will never be changed by any government.

Excellent point.

Lod  posted on  2008-03-18   12:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine (#19) (Edited)

Obama stopped the clinton kitchen sink and threw it back at them.

Please take no offense if have at a slight editing stab, christine.

Obama stopped the clinton kitchen sink and threw candidness, truthfulness, sincerity and decency back at them.

I still insist that this man will continue to take the high road all the way to November, regardless of how much mud he has to slog through.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   12:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lodwick (#27)

thanks, you're kind.

Resist!

WhiteGuy  posted on  2008-03-18   13:01:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: WhiteGuy (#26)

I see this whole "race" matter being the same as the "gay marriage" issue from '04.

Both are polarizing factors to divert Americans' attention away from the fact that the economy is in the toilet, there is an evil foreign occupation going on, the middle class is being systematically crushed, and the taxable earnings of the next 4 generations are being looted by off-shore "defense" contractors.

Obama is not the one dragging race into the contest.

Indeed, even in this "race" speech he attempted to bring the issues you mention back into the debate.

Read it and think about it, it won't change your color.

Heck, the next time we hear from you, you might even be calling yourself AmericanGuy.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   13:10:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: lodwick (#23)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   13:10:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: WhiteGuy (#26)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   13:11:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: WhiteGuy (#26)

Both are polarizing factors to divert Americans' attention away from the fact that the economy is in the toilet

bass ackwards

Increasing scarcity increases the importance of kinship.

Red states? Blue states? It's an Obama nation!

Tauzero  posted on  2008-03-18   13:12:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: ghostdogtxn (#32)

Did you read the speech?

no, I haven't.

I'm certain that it's a very good speech, though.

I am commenting only on racial divisiveness being used as a diversion.

Resist!

WhiteGuy  posted on  2008-03-18   13:16:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Tauzero (#33)

Increasing scarcity increases the importance of kinship.

Please explain

Resist!

WhiteGuy  posted on  2008-03-18   13:17:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: ghostdogtxn (#31)

Although BHO is far from my first choice for the presidency, to my knowledge, he doesn't have a 'body-count' website devoted to him.

Lod  posted on  2008-03-18   13:17:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: ghostdogtxn (#18)

You gotta read the context.

The first association I made with "Ashley" was "Montagu".

Boy did I laugh.

Red states? Blue states? It's an Obama nation!

Tauzero  posted on  2008-03-18   13:19:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: WhiteGuy (#34)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   13:19:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: WhiteGuy (#35)

I'd love to, but the folks at American Renaissance can explain it much better than me.

Red states? Blue states? It's an Obama nation!

Tauzero  posted on  2008-03-18   13:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: christine (#1)

This is a very good speech.

Indeed. What Obama did is to call on the people to responsibility. From this speech 'we the people' will not be able to vote for chimperor (twice) and not be considered responsible for the consequences of their act.

gord  posted on  2008-03-18   13:20:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: lodwick (#36)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   13:21:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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