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Title: Obama Race Speech: The Full Text
Source: Huff Po
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Published: Mar 18, 2008
Author: Barack Obama
Post Date: 2008-03-18 11:13:50 by ghostdogtxn
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#198. To: aristeides (#195)

He never did disown Kucinich, did he?

He didn't have to, putz.

He never said he'd be on the same ticket as DK either, did he?

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FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   16:54:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: Cynicom, aristeides, ghostdogtxn, iconoclast, robin, Brian (#197)

So far it looks like ghost, Ari and icon in the running for head cheer leader for Obama.

Actually none of them were surprises.

There's plenty more, and a couple of them were surprises to me.

But you'd know far better than I...

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FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   16:56:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: All (#199)

two hundred

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FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   16:56:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: FOH (#198) (Edited)

He didn't have to, putz.

Well, I suppose he didn't have to, unless he paid attention to you.

As you just admitted a few posts back, you demanded that he publicly disown Kucinich or you would drop your support of him.

Some diehard support that is.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   16:57:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: mirage (#151)

Reading Bush's served you well.

So did voting for Badnarik last time.

Ho hum.

Well, I s'pose that at least relieved your frustrations.

Repeating the exercise when the choices are so starkly different may have a decidedly sour result.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   16:58:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: iconoclast (#202)

Repeating the exercise when the choices are so starkly different may have a decidedly sour result.

When confronted with the choice of "lesser of two evils" - recognize that you are still voting for evil and choose not to play.

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2008-03-18   17:02:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: aristeides (#201)

I received direct personal assurances that no watermelons like dk would ever be considered on a Ron Paul ticket.

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FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   17:03:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: FOH (#181)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   17:05:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: ghostdogtxn, mirage (#153) (Edited)

Hey, I voted for Bednarick last time, too.

Why the hell not?

Guys, you'll never be proven wrong by voting for no-chance candidates.

Of course, you'll never know for sure if you were right, either.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   17:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: aristeides (#201)

How did you manage to go from supporting the Constitution-candidate to whoring yourself for the Establishment selection(s)?

(I already know the answer)

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FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   17:07:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: ghostdogtxn (#205)

I certainly will never endorse, support or have a kind word for ANY of the Establishment candidates let alone put on the knee pads for one like you do...

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What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   17:08:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: FOH (#207)

go from supporting the Constitution-candidate

If you bother to read Obama's speech, you may notice that he begins by talking about the Constitution, and ends by talking about the Constitution.

In his previous speeches he has repeatedly spoken of his respect for the Constitution, denounced torture, called for restoring habeas corpus, etc.

He occasionally mentions in his speeches that for years he taught constitutional law. Not just anywhere, but at the conservative University of Chicago Law School.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   17:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: mirage (#203)

When confronted with the choice of "lesser of two evils" - recognize that you are still voting for evil and choose not to play.

Some of these pathetic folks wouldn't know what to do with themselves if they couldn't at least pretend to be playing in the game...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   17:11:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: FOH (#204)

I received direct personal assurances

From Ron Paul? Oh really?

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   17:11:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: iconoclast (#206)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   17:12:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: aristeides (#209)

Don't let me get in the way of you falling for a good line!

"Jesus Christ, because he changed my heart"TM

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   17:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: aristeides (#211)

From Ron Paul? Oh really?

You sound surprised.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   17:13:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: FOH (#207)

Obama is going down, and with him will crash the faux hopes of millions of naive brainwashed, feminist, socialist UN lovers. Ah yes, I love the smell of false dreams crashing in the morning...

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-03-18   17:13:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: FOH (#208)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   17:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#217. To: FOH (#214)

You sound surprised.

I certainly am.

Ron Paul communicates with you?

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   17:14:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#218. To: Vitamin Z (#215)

the faux hopes of millions of naive brainwashed, feminist, socialist UN lovers.

Deep down, they love the thought of the North America Union/Zone/Community...

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What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   17:15:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: aristeides (#217)

Ron Paul communicates with you?

I had the good pleasure of having breakfast with Ron on the campaign trail.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   17:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#220. To: FOH (#219)

I had the good pleasure of having breakfast with Ron on the campaign trail.

You'll have to excuse me if I wait for proof before I believe that.

Ron Paul is obviously a very courteous gentleman, something very different from how you present yourself on this forum.

And, as you admitted above, Ron Paul and Kucinich are friends. I very much doubt if he would speak of him in anything like the terms you indicated above.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   17:18:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#221. To: lodwick (#175)

My hope is that the awakening that Dr.Paul started across the country, and the world, will continue on the local level. That's where most all these criminal cretins that wind up in deecee got their start, after all.

An awful lot of the elitists start at at least the Congressional level.

Caveat emptor.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   17:19:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#222. To: aristeides (#220)

ari, unlike you, I'm serious about what I do.

As the blind man said to his wife after taking a dump: "Honey, can you proof read something for me".

So I say to you.

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FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   17:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: FOH (#210)

Some of these pathetic folks wouldn't know what to do with themselves if they couldn't at least pretend to be playing in the game...

Its the canard of "don't throw your vote away!" that gets them every time.

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2008-03-18   17:21:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: FOH (#222)

In other words, you can't prove it.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   17:22:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#225. To: ghostdogtxn (#216)

Still trying to decided what a "Ron Paul Democrat" believes in?

You're a joke...a clown asitwere.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   17:23:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#226. To: lodwick (#182)

Dr.Paul had the support, the donors, just not the black box programmers.

Sadly, my friend, outside our little cybernet world I have not had my pathway encumbered by great numbers of Dr. Paul supporters.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   17:24:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#227. To: aristeides (#224)

In other words, you can't prove it.

I don't have to prove it.

I was there.

My State Campaign Director was there.

My wife was there.

My partners were there.

You're a nobody Left Wing Progressive Communist sh*t for brains that is now sucking the Establishment's knob.

You deserve "proof"?! LOLOL

You deserve what you continually get.

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FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   17:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#228. To: mirage (#223)

Its the canard of "don't throw your vote away!" that gets them every time.

For some, but not for these particular clowns in my opinion.

They just like 'the action'.

That and they're Liberal Demopublicans to their core...

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FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   17:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#229. To: FOH (#227)

You deserve what you continually get.

I try to act like a gentleman.

Everybody on this forum can see what you are.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   17:27:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: aristeides (#229)

Yes, you are a very polite Deconstructionist Communist Progressive Liberal Left Wing Marxist asswipe.

But you are a polite one, ari.

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FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   17:29:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#231. To: FOH (#230) (Edited)

I repeat:

Everybody on this forum can see what you are.

And it's certainly not a gentleman.

Nor a credit to any cause you may support. Like Ron Paul's.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   17:30:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#232. To: mirage (#184)

All eyes are on Obama now. It is "lead or die" for his campaign at this moment.

Could be he's trying to hold his party together.

If he gets a chance to go one on one with McInsane the picture may become clearer.

He has hinted at bipartisanship, even to the point of implying non-Dims in his administration.

I will be anxious to see if he expands on this at cutting time,

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   17:30:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#233. To: aristeides (#231)

I repeat, I'm not HERE to be a gentleman, a friend, a buddy or ANYTHING else.

You Obamaphile knob polisher...

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FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   17:31:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#234. To: aristeides (#231)

Nor a credit to any cause you may support. Like Ron Paul's.

Sadly, you and I both know that when it comes to policies, you and Ron Paul have very little in common.

He loves America.

You love Liberalism.

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What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   17:32:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#235. To: FOH (#233)

I repeat, I'm not HERE to be a gentleman, a friend, a buddy or ANYTHING else.

Nor to win any supporters for the causes you support, apparently.

Or should I say -- for the causes you say you support.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   17:33:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#236. To: FOH (#233)

I repeat, I'm not HERE to be a gentleman, a friend, a buddy or ANYTHING else.

And, since you admit you're no gentleman, I continue to have a hard time believing someone as courtly as Ron Paul would confide in you.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   17:37:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#237. To: aristeides, buckeye (#235)

Nor to win any supporters for the causes you support, apparently.

Or should I say -- for the causes you say you support.

I leave the subtleties to others.

I'll take a patriot that is less gentlemanly over a polite traitor like you every day of the week and twice on Tuesdays...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   17:38:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#238. To: iconoclast (#232)

He has hinted at bipartisanship, even to the point of implying non-Dims in his administration.

The Democrat party is pretty much in a civil war right now. That much we know for a fact.

If Obama is truly trying to be the "coalition" candidate, he will announce how he will deliver this.

Many people are so cynical with regards to Government right now that they don't believe it until they see it.

Obama bought himself a pass with his speech today, but the price is stepping up to the plate and being a leader. Delivering on his words begins with articulating a vision and then a plan.

Without that, he falls on his face as being an empty suit.

Thinking about some of his comments, his "My mother looked over her shoulders for ni**ers" echoes CHRIS ROCK. Is Obama going to blast Chris Rock now? I don't think so.

As time goes on and people have time to think about this speech, more "WTF?" items like that will come out.

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2008-03-18   17:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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