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Title: Obama Race Speech: The Full Text
Source: Huff Po
URL Source: [None]
Published: Mar 18, 2008
Author: Barack Obama
Post Date: 2008-03-18 11:13:50 by ghostdogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 5967
Comments: 286

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#37. To: ghostdogtxn (#18)

You gotta read the context.

The first association I made with "Ashley" was "Montagu".

Boy did I laugh.

Red states? Blue states? It's an Obama nation!

Tauzero  posted on  2008-03-18   13:19:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: WhiteGuy (#34)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   13:19:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: WhiteGuy (#35)

I'd love to, but the folks at American Renaissance can explain it much better than me.

Red states? Blue states? It's an Obama nation!

Tauzero  posted on  2008-03-18   13:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: christine (#1)

This is a very good speech.

Indeed. What Obama did is to call on the people to responsibility. From this speech 'we the people' will not be able to vote for chimperor (twice) and not be considered responsible for the consequences of their act.

gord  posted on  2008-03-18   13:20:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: lodwick (#36)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   13:21:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: WhiteGuy, Tauzero (#35)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   13:22:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

That's the most patriotic bag of horse puckey I've ever seen handled by a Black Panther Marxist quisling Council on Foreign Relations puppet...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   13:23:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: christine, ghostdogtxn, aristeides, Brian S, Elliott Jackalope, iconoclast, Arator (#4)

I agree. I'm waiting to see Fox News (who were laughing about him before the speech started) to begin extracting statements from this morning's speech out of context so they can start more controversy.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   13:29:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Tauzero (#37)

Who knew that a mustard and relish sandwich could ever be used to make a wonderful statement.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   13:30:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: ghostdogtxn, WhiteGuy (#38)

I am commenting only on racial divisiveness being used as a diversion.

That's pretty much what Obama says in his speech, too.

Yes indeed.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   13:31:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: ghostdogtxn (#38)

That's pretty much what Obama says in his speech, too.

Oh, I see, thanks for filling me in.

I'll read it later.

Resist!

WhiteGuy  posted on  2008-03-18   13:31:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: FOH (#43)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   13:42:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: ghostdogtxn (#48) (Edited)

Jesus Christ, because he changed my heart®

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   13:43:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: FOH (#49)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   13:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: ghostdogtxn (#50)

I wonder if Queen Hitlery and her exTRIMPOTUS hubby will love us as much as the Bush side of the family did?

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   13:49:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: ghostdogtxn (#50)

His conversion to Christianity was real, and it shows.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   13:50:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: FOH (#51)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   13:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: christine (#4)

i give the speech an A

I hate political speeches but I forced myself to listen to the entire speech. My opinion? It was a blockbuster.

Arete  posted on  2008-03-18   13:53:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: robin (#52)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   13:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: ghostdogtxn (#53)

The Stalinist lesbian witch was selected a long time ago.

There's no Black Panther Marxist named Hussein with permission to actually change that, no matter how good the game looks.

It is funny though, that people actually pay attention to the 3 remaining pre-selected turds...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   13:55:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: robin (#52)

Did you get sucked in by the last chimperor, too?

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   13:56:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: ghostdogtxn (#55)

I agree. Unfortunately, as we can see here, it won't sway those who have already made up their minds about race and politics.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   13:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: WhiteGuy (#26)

Both are cultural issues and will never be changed by any government.

It's not easy to change culture through law. But a president can influence it by using his bully pulpit.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   13:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: FOH (#57)

In 2000, I considered Gore another Clinton. But in '04 I voted Constitution Party. I might have voted for Kerry, but CA was clearly going his way.

Bush/Cheney have been the most evil monsters in our nation's history.

A McCain presidency will be another Cheney presidency.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   13:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: robin (#58)

RACE and POLITICS!????

My God you are SUCKER!!!!!

If I hadn't watched all of this unfold with my own eyes (transformation from Ron Paul supporters into Black Panther Marxist CFR supporters) I would have difficulty believing it.

Unreal

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   13:59:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Arete (#54)

I hate political speeches but I forced myself to listen to the entire speech. My opinion? It was a blockbuster.

agree...and i will give credit where credit is due.

christine  posted on  2008-03-18   13:59:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: robin (#60)

If you can vote for a Skull and Bones, One World Monopolist, Council on Foreign Relations quisling, you're capable of anything...sad.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   14:00:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: FOH (#61)

Both are grassroots campaigns, with a lot of support from young people. IMO, Obama is more out of the establishment (I know about CFR), than the other two possibilities.

So who will you be voting for? One of the candidates who has no chance of winning?

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   14:00:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: FOH (#63)

I'm a realist, and I see no value in allowing others to elect Hillary or McCain.

They are far worse than Obama, IMO.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   14:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: robin (#64)

VOTE FOR THE WINNNER argument next!?

LOLOL

Do you even listen to yourself????

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   14:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Arete (#54)

It was a blockbuster.

It was, and hopefully it will help him win the nomination over Hillary. He will have a tough fight with the corrupt warmonger, McCain.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   14:02:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: robin (#65)

They are far worse than Obama, IMO.

You're one of, if not THE, biggest sucker I've encountered on this or any forum that support(ed) Ron Paul...that's saying a LOT.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   14:03:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: robin (#67)

McNuts is a warmonger but the CFR-D people aren't!?

THIS IS TOO GOOD!!!!

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   14:04:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: robin (#65)

I'm a realist

You're a lot of things, realist not being one of them...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   14:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: aristeides (#59)

It's not easy to change culture through law. But a president can influence it by using his bully pulpit.

Perhaps, but even if we all agree that cultural change is possible with the right leadership and a true desire for evolution, this issue in this presidential race is still only a diversion.

This is just my perspective.

Resist!

WhiteGuy  posted on  2008-03-18   14:06:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: FOH (#63)

If you can vote for a Skull and Bones, One World Monopolist, Council on Foreign Relations quisling, you're capable of anything...sad.

Your description fits Bush II and Kerry (not Obama, by the way, as he never attended Yale, and thus had no opportunity to join Skull & Bones).

So you would appear to be describing almost everybody who voted in the 2004 election.

As someone who voted for Nader (also not Skull & Bones) in '04, let me say, I think you're being unfair to 99% of the American electorate. (I didn't vote for a Skull & Bones candidate in 2000 either, as I voted for Buchanan that year.)

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   14:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: FOH (#66)

That's not what I posted. I guess you did not really read what I posted.

I said I do not want Hillary or McCain; especially McCain. He will be worse than Cheney (according to Pat Buchanan).

Voting for Obama is our best chance, far from perfect, but far better than Hillary or McCain. Voting for Ron Paul at this point, is pointless (unless you just want to make what will end up a meaningless statement).

I voted for Ron Paul in the CA primary, there was some hope then.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   14:06:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: robin (#58)

for me it's not about race at all. it's about establishment selections and, i don't think one can argue that Obama is not. he's CFR.

christine  posted on  2008-03-18   14:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: FOH (#68)

You make rude statements w/o any supporting evidence. Obama is not in any way as corrupted as Hillary and McCain. Nor is he a war monger.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   14:08:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: FOH (#68)

This time we want to talk about the men and women of every color and creed who serve together, and fight together, and bleed together under the same proud flag. We want to talk about how to bring them home from a war that never should've been authorized and never should've been waged, and we want to talk about how we'll show our patriotism by caring for them, and their families, and giving them the benefits they have earned.

Are those the words of a warmonger?

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   14:08:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: christine (#74)

I'm aware he is CFR, and stated so on this thread. But Hillary and McCain are also corrupt. McCain is an insane warmonger.

McCain was part of the Keating Five. He is completely bought by lobbyists of every kind.

He just helped a foreign country take away a huge Airbus contract from Americans.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   14:10:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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