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Title: Obama Race Speech: The Full Text
Source: Huff Po
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Published: Mar 18, 2008
Author: Barack Obama
Post Date: 2008-03-18 11:13:50 by ghostdogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 6480
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#147. To: mirage (#141)

I read platforms to decide who I vote for; rhetoric and charisma carry zero weight here. If what is under the hood is undesirable, it doesn't get my vote, regardless of what else is going on.

Reading Bush's served you well.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   15:26:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: FOH (#134)

I guess aristeides was correct about you.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   15:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: ghostdogtxn (#145)

Of the 3 he's POTENTIALLY worth a shit. The others aren't, and that's certain.

That's what it boils down to.

Out of 300M people, what a 'choice.'

Lod  posted on  2008-03-18   15:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: FOH (#80)

You do get carried away .... Ronald Reagan was not a CFR member,

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   15:34:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: iconoclast (#147)

Reading Bush's served you well.

So did voting for Badnarik last time.

If you're going to throw an insult, at least get your facts right.

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2008-03-18   15:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: lodwick (#149)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   15:37:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: mirage (#151)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   15:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: ghostdogtxn (#145)

I'm not concerned about McCain *if* we have a Democrat Congress. I am concerned with Hillary and a Democrat Congress.

Of the two Democrats, Obama is the best choice. He shows the capacity to learn and even the most cynical person has to admit he pays good lip service to issues at the very least.

At Chez Mirage, we are "traditional New England Republicans" meaning we believe in a balanced budget, smaller government, and all that stuff. The only candidate that believes in that is Ron Paul and we will be voting for him until we are not allowed to any longer. We don't like RINOs and we don't like NeoCons. We do vote for Conservative (or Blue Dog) Democrats if they are better than the Republican.

Color us "equal opportunity" here. Color us "wild-eyed independent" as well if you wish.

But, again, I give Obama high marks for the speech. I just wish it recommended a solution or even outlined the pathway to the solution.

I expect the grievance industry and the Black Community will, in some parts, come unhinged because Obama threatens their livelihoods. We will have to see what the fallout is from that.

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2008-03-18   15:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: robin, christine (#148)

I guess aristeides was correct about you.

More to the point, I was correct about the lot of YOU...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   15:46:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: mirage (#154)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   15:47:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: mirage (#154)

Obama's role in all of this was defined when Barack Hussein Obama was asked to address the '04 Democrat Convention...he's just another OWM puppet.

Amazed at how many people are stupid enough to fall for it, especially the supposed Ron Paul supporters who are now playing the Establishment game.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   15:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: ghostdogtxn (#152)

No kidding. He's not my first choice, not even my second choice, but out of what's left, he's my ONLY choice.



FOFLOLOL!!! This is TOO GOOD!!!

Weren't you going to run as a "Ron Paul Democrat"?

!!!!

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   15:50:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: FOH (#158)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   15:53:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: iconoclast (#144)

In 1980, Ronald Reagan was not a member, but his running mate, George H.W. Bush, was. So were both of his opponents – Carter and independent John Anderson. Assuming office, however, Reagan quickly named 313 CFR members to his team.

How could an Obama supporter that pretended to support Ron Paul offend me?

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   15:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: ghostdogtxn (#159)

You go to war with army you have, not the army you might wish to have at some future time....

Seriously, the whole lot of you faux RP supporters jumping to one of the establishment selections are sick little pups...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   15:56:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: ghostdogtxn (#159)

Even Ron Paul had the good sense to avoid endorsing the Establishment Traitor of his own Party...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   15:57:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: ghostdogtxn (#156)

Would anyone notice a difference?

Only at the difference in the target. Imagine Diversity and Grievance people attacking their own.

Obama does "get" one very important thing. You cannot fight discrimination with discrimination. He is ahead of every other Democrat in that regard.

Now he just needs to "get" that people self-segregate by choice in the modern age.

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2008-03-18   15:59:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: FOH (#157)

Amazed at how many people are stupid enough to fall for it, especially the supposed Ron Paul supporters who are now playing the Establishment game.

As usual, mirage is looking to see who the Libertarians are running since the "top two" choices will be unacceptable.

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2008-03-18   16:01:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: FOH (#157)

Obama's role in all of this was defined when Barack Hussein Obama was asked to address the '04 Democrat Convention..

and made an appearance on Monday Night Football

www.youtube.com/watch? v=8WJsuM19-8c

christine  posted on  2008-03-18   16:06:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: christine (#165)

I had no idea...amazing how many sheep (even supposed Ron Paul patriots...LOLOL) fall for all this.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   16:08:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: mirage (#164)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouKJixL--ms&NR=1

Unfit to lead

Hagee  posted on  2008-03-18   16:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: FOH (#162)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-18   16:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: FOH (#105)

I discovered infanticide.

I wholeheartely agree with you on this issue.

But, I also believe, as Dr. Paul implied ... this American shame is not going to be corrected at the national level.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   16:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: FOH (#166)

They've been hooked back into the circus. Obama knows how to deliver some seriously strong Kool-Aid.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-03-18   16:18:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: ghostdogtxn (#168)

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   16:19:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Vitamin Z (#170)

They've been hooked back into the circus. Obama knows how to deliver some seriously strong Kool-Aid.

Remind me again why I fight for these stupid prigs?

They run back to the CFR-D mud puddle like dressed up little piglets when a door to the house is left open...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   16:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: FOH (#107)

In February 2004, U.S. Senate candidate Barack Obama's wife, Michelle, sent a fund-raising letter with the "alarming news" that "right-wing politicians" had passed a law stopping doctors from stabbing half-born babies in the neck with scissors, suctioning out their brains and crushing their skulls.

Mrs. Barack would appear to be inflicted with a serious case of Feminist Flu.

But at least she is not ostracizing cookie bakers. :-/

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   16:24:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: iconoclast (#169)

I wholeheartely agree with you on this issue.

But, I also believe, as Dr. Paul implied ... this American shame is not going to be corrected at the national level.

You put your big but in there and wrecked your attempt at rationalizing why you're voting for McHillobama the Black Panther Marxist baby butcherer...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   16:24:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: ghostdogtxn, the thread (#152)

He's not my first choice, not even my second choice, but out of what's left, he's my ONLY choice.

As I mentioned earlier, after the havoc wreaked on the entire world by 'my generation' presidents, bentmember and smirk; I'm ready to let the younger generation have a go at it.

My hope is that the awakening that Dr.Paul started across the country, and the world, will continue on the local level. That's where most all these criminal cretins that wind up in deecee got their start, after all.

Lod  posted on  2008-03-18   16:24:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: iconoclast (#173)

Mrs. Barack would appear to be inflicted with a serious case of Feminist Flu.

But at least she is not ostracizing cookie bakers. :-/

There's your but again...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   16:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: robin (#148)

Fagee Over Hagee has the whole LOLOL-leet crypto-package where he can tell you if you left a light on in the attic and what your credit score will be next Tuesday. Either that, or he was dropped on his head as a baby.

nobody  posted on  2008-03-18   16:26:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: lodwick (#175) (Edited)

My hope is that the awakening that Dr.Paul started across the country, and the world, will continue on the local level.

If RP's support included as large of a % of latent McHillObama supporters as it appears, then truly the movement was MUCH smaller than anyone knew...

Interestingly, it appears that MOST of the faux RP supporters came from the traditionally labeled Liberal wing of the CFR Party...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   16:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: mirage (#154)

I expect the grievance industry and the Black Community will, in some parts, come unhinged because Obama threatens their livelihoods. We will have to see what the fallout is from that.

Excellent point - I hadn't even thought of the poverty-pimps reaction...maybe BHO should tap Bill Cosby as his veep, to really stir the pot.

Lod  posted on  2008-03-18   16:28:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: ghostdogtxn (#119)

So I'll support him for now, given my lack of other choices.

As you know dog I emphatically agree with you this year.

Even for those putting forth the lesser of evils argument, I don't see how anyone can fail to see the widening of the evil gap this time around.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   16:34:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: iconoclast, ghostdogtxn, ALL (#180)

For EVERYONE that blew it and supported George W. Bush in either 2000 or especially 2004 - you are NOW not the sleaziest one in the room.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   16:36:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: FOH (#178)

The 'Help America' voting machines could elect Christine's cat, who, knowing him personally, would do a fine job in the oval office.

Dr.Paul had the support, the donors, just not the black box programmers.

Lod  posted on  2008-03-18   16:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: lodwick (#182)

Even knowing the outcome was rigged, I supported the anti-Establishment patriot and would never ever consider playing the McHilloBama goose step.

Most of the stalwart RP supporters on 4um have proven to be frauds in their support now of the Marxist Mulatto Panther Barack Hussein Council on Foreign Relations member Obama...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   16:41:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: lodwick (#179)

maybe BHO should tap Bill Cosby as his veep, to really stir the pot.

If he does that, my only question is then "Where do I send the check?"

Obama has set the stage now for real leadership. This is political brinksmanship at its best. If he does not seize the moment and emerge as a real leader with a solution and a plan, all is for naught.

All eyes are on Obama now. It is "lead or die" for his campaign at this moment.

I imagine the uproar at Jesse Jackson's mansion is deafening. Obama threatens Jackson's very existance. Ditto for Al Sharpton and the Diversity Mongers.

Once Obama starts in, he will discover that Black America has withdrawn from the country in many parts. Whitey did his part - it is now time for Black America to do its part and join with the rest of us.

Lunch with a friend of mine where we discuss these matters (let's just say his kids are mixed) should be very interesting this week.

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2008-03-18   16:41:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: FOH (#181)

For EVERYONE that blew it and supported George W. Bush in either 2000 or especially 2004 - you are NOW not the sleaziest one in the room.

Is it your 'time of the month,' or what the heck's wrong with you today?

You're not winning friends, nor influencing people with these mindless, groundless attacks.

Lod  posted on  2008-03-18   16:43:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: lodwick (#185)

Are you now supporting Obama as well?

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   16:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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