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Title: Obama Race Speech: The Full Text
Source: Huff Po
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Published: Mar 18, 2008
Author: Barack Obama
Post Date: 2008-03-18 11:13:50 by ghostdogtxn
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Views: 3795
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#247. To: James Deffenbach (#242)

This lovefest by 4um members for Obama is downright laffable.

White guilt? Hardshell democrats? Naive and or without a clue?

We got sandbagged with Clinton and Bush from the same organization and now they offer up Obama and the sheep slobber all over themselves to be first in line for the slaughter.

The elite in the back room must be having a real gut busting laff.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-18   18:17:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#248. To: aristeides (#76)

Are those the words of a warmonger?

Talk is cheap. How did he vote on the funding for the war? Did he not vote in favor of the funding? He is allegedly against the war but votes for all the funding.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-03-18   18:18:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#249. To: FOH (#246)

Some people are totally transparent.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-18   18:18:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#250. To: Cynicom (#249)

This lovefest by 4um members for Obama is downright laffable.

White guilt? Hardshell democrats? Naive and or without a clue?

We got sandbagged with Clinton and Bush from the same organization and now they offer up Obama and the sheep slobber all over themselves to be first in line for the slaughter.

The elite in the back room must be having a real gut busting laff.

I couldn't have said it any better...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   18:21:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#251. To: FOH (#237)

I leave the subtleties to others.

I don't give a damn which of the three leading puppets wins the election.

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-18   18:53:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#252. To: FOH (#237)

There is, of course, a very simple way to prove your claims -- or at least to make them a lot more believable. If Ron Paul did confide his plans to you, surely you posted something about that here, or elsewhere on the Web. Or at least you must have made some mention of this breakfast meeting you claim to have had with him. You have only to point us to those earlier postings.

If, however, this thread is the first time you have mentioned Ron Paul's assurance or your breakfast meeting with him, and that only in response to my challenge, you will have to accept the fact that no one will believe you.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   18:56:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#253. To: aristeides (#252)

heheheheh

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   19:01:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#254. To: buckeye (#251)

I don't give a damn which of the three leading puppets wins the election.

!!!!!!!!!!

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   19:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#255. To: FOH (#253)

Checkmate.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   19:03:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#256. To: aristeides (#255)

ari, you're a legend in your own mind.

I had lunch with Warren Buffet a few weeks ago, too.

Want me to prove that as well?

LOLOL

I have nothing to prove to a false flag flying traitor like you...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-18   19:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: FOH (#256) (Edited)

I had lunch with Warren Buffet a few weeks ago, too.

Yeah, sure, and you have the time to spend all day posting on this forum.

But you somehow never post anything about your meetings with these important people, until somebody challenges you.

Yeah, sure.

As if we are supposed to believe that somebody with your obvious lack of manners and breeding gets to meet all these important people.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   19:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#258. To: aristeides (#257)

As if we are supposed to believe that somebody with your obvious lack of manners and breeding gets to meet all these important people.

Now now Ari, your elitism is showing again.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-18   19:17:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#259. To: Cynicom, FOH (#258)

I'm trying to provoke FOH into proving his claims.

And you've got to admit, he's given me plenty of cause to provoke him. Look at the language he's used -- about me and about others -- in this thread.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-18   19:20:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#260. To: aristeides (#259)

And you've got to admit, he's given me plenty of cause to provoke him. Look at the language he's used -- about me and about others -- in this thread.

Ari...

You are fair game here as is everyone else.

I do give you credit for civility and manners.

When is your fitting for your cheer leaders uniform??? I can hear it now, (Murrow) "rah rah for Old BO"....just kiddin

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-18   19:23:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#261. To: aristeides (#229)

Everybody on this forum can see what you are.

And very clearly.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-03-18   19:33:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#262. To: FOH (#178)

Interestingly, it appears that MOST of the faux RP supporters came from the traditionally labeled Liberal wing of the CFR Party...

Agreed.

Red states? Blue states? It's an Obama nation!

Tauzero  posted on  2008-03-18   19:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#263. To: FOH (#178)

Interestingly, it appears that MOST of the faux RP supporters came from the traditionally labeled Liberal wing of the CFR Party...

They that swim with Teddy, become like Teddy.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-03-18   19:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#264. To: FOH (#244)

My friend, the frauds that have exposed themselves over this are the same type of stealth fake patriots that poisoned Ron Paul's campaign inner circle....

You summed it up nicely. Good to see you.

Likewise. Hope all is well 'round your 'hood. ;^)

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-03-18   19:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#265. To: Cynicom (#247)

This lovefest by 4um members for Obama is downright laffable.

White guilt? Hardshell democrats? Naive and or without a clue?

We got sandbagged with Clinton and Bush from the same organization and now they offer up Obama and the sheep slobber all over themselves to be first in line for the slaughter.

The elite in the back room must be having a real gut busting laff.

It is sad to me when otherwise intelligent people can be snookered so easily by the establishment and its puppets.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-03-18   19:50:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#266. To: James Deffenbach (#265)

It is sad to me when otherwise intelligent people can be snookered so easily by the establishment and its puppets.

You single thought CFR harranguers are those MOST controlled by the CFR.

Ironic.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   19:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#267. To: iconoclast (#266)

uh huh. I didn't mention the CFR but talked about the establishment. You know, the establishment that owns the guy you are touting for president. The CFR is a part of it but only a part.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-03-18   19:56:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#268. To: James Deffenbach (#267)

It is sad to me when otherwise intelligent people can be snookered so easily by the establishment and its puppets.

Evasive hairsplitting and hardly a reply at all.

My old mind must be slipping faster than I feared ... I thought the establishment instigated and went ape shit over the illegal invasion of Iraq. Or as Obama puts it so fundamentally and right on, dumb.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   22:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#269. To: James Deffenbach (#267)

uh huh. I didn't mention the CFR

It is sad to me when otherwise intelligent people can be snookered so easily by the establishment and its puppets.

Evasive hairsplitting and hardly a reply at all.

My old mind must be slipping faster than I feared ... I thought the establishment instigated and went ape shit over the illegal invasion of Iraq. Or as Obama puts it so fundamentally and right on, dumb.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   22:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#270. To: iconoclast (#269)

Iraq is not our only problem.

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-18   22:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#271. To: Peppa (#263)

They that swim with Teddy, become like Teddy.

Clarification please.

You are referring to McCain and his nefarious legislative couplings with the rotund one are you not?

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   22:58:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#272. To: buckeye (#270)

Iraq is not our only problem.

Of course it's not .... it's only the root from which the others sprung.

Base portion of the Midas Bush Touch .... everything he touched turned to shit.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   23:03:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#273. To: iconoclast (#272)

Wrong, our slavery to the British Empire is the problem. Obama just sings a different anthem, but it's to the same queen.

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-18   23:05:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#274. To: iconoclast (#271)

They that swim with Teddy, become like Teddy. Clarification please.

You are referring to McCain and his nefarious legislative couplings with the rotund one are you not

Yes, and Obama.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-03-18   23:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#275. To: buckeye (#273)

our slavery to the British Empire is the problem

True, we have been neocon-hubristicly slavish of the British.

It is to Likud that we are puzzlingly and totally submissive.

But, I still submit that either all problems stem from the very early and ongoing obsessiveness with Iraq or the Bush administration is simply totally inept.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   23:36:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#276. To: iconoclast (#275)

Obama serves the same masters. Iraq is done. Africa is next on their horizon.

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-18   23:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#277. To: Peppa (#274)

They that swim with Teddy, become like Teddy. Clarification please.

You are referring to McCain and his nefarious legislative couplings with the rotund one are you not

Yes, and Obama.

Kennedy endorsed Obama ... something I have never seen attributed to any act/wish on Obama's part.

Incidentally, it appears to have done no good whatsoever for Obama aside from some Kennedy-hagiographic photo-ops.

OTOH, McCain and Kennedy have worked hand in glove legislatively.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   23:48:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#278. To: buckeye (#276)

Africa is next on their horizon.

Prescience here, prescience there, prescience everywhere.

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   23:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#279. To: iconoclast (#277) (Edited)

Kennedy endorsed Obama ... something I have never seen attributed to any act/wish on Obama's part.

How odd they are both politicians. I've never seen that either./s

Incidentally, it appears to have done no good whatsoever for Obama aside from some Kennedy-hagiographic photo-ops.

Gee, I remember an inordinate amount of build up to the event, and the waiting for royalty to arrive. Can't quite remember so much free airtime given to any other candidate, other than the priestess herself.

OTOH, McCain and Kennedy have worked hand in glove legislatively. Yes. McCain. Brought back from the dead to ensure no matter which party chummed the waters best, the sharks win.

But on the other hand, he wore a glove. >grin

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-03-19   0:05:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#280. To: All (#279) (Edited)

oops

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-03-19   0:15:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#281. To: All (#279)

Word Up

www.youtube.com/watch? v=eFTfWTqQ0dM

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-03-19   0:15:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#282. To: Sam Houston, christine (#5)

Imagine the Chimp writing his own speeches.

That was my thought as I read that. This guy is certainly no dummie.

I still have a gut feeling Hillary has been chosen for us.

Diana  posted on  2008-03-19   3:00:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#283. To: iconoclast (#269)

My old mind must be slipping faster than I feared...

Indeed. Anyone who thinks that one of the establishment puppets is the "cure" for the problems the establishment has created probably needs lots of help.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-03-19   9:27:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#284. To: James Deffenbach (#283)

icon is a part of the problem.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   9:33:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#285. To: Cynicom (#284)

Anyone who really believes Obama is going to be that much better or that much different than what currently infests the White House is going to be badly disappointed IF he actually gets the nomination and "wins" the election.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-03-19   9:50:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#286. To: ghostdogtxn (#103)

I may be getting off track, but do you really think RedNeck (oops! I mean RedState) Uhmurrica would sit still while either Hitlery or a black man became Prezodent?

Obama's speech was a nice and commendable effort, and there isn't much in it with which to disagree (other than his shameful genuflection to the NeoCons on the issue of the source of the trouble in the Middle East), but I don't think that the people who need to be reached will ever give either the speech or speaker a fair chance.

leveller  posted on  2008-03-20   14:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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