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Title: Obama Speech: 'A More Perfect Union' (youtube)
Source: http://www.youtube.com
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWe7wTVbLUU
Published: Mar 18, 2008
Author: Barack Obama
Post Date: 2008-03-18 13:41:02 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 647
Comments: 54

Obama Speech: 'A More Perfect Union' (~37 minutes)

Barack Obama speaks in Philadelphia, PA at Constitution Center, on matters not just of race and recent remarks but of the fundamental path by which America can work together to pursue a better future.


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Obama Race Speech: The Full Text
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#1. To: Brian S, aristeides, iconoclast, Elliott Jackalope, Arator, christine, Jethro Tull, Cynicom (#0)

ping

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   13:41:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#1)

His speech was brilliant. Strike up "Hail to the Chief" because McCrazy and Hellary are done.

Arator  posted on  2008-03-18   19:20:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Arator (#3)

His speech was brilliant. Strike up "Hail to the Chief" because McCrazy and Hellary are done.

Monumental.

An historic milestone.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   23:08:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: iconoclast (#5)

I made it about five minutes into this. The world is on fire and he has time to all this time to talk about being black. Sorry, but it's not good enough.

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-18   23:19:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeye (#6)

Are you aware of the firestorm of smears that he has been through in the past two weeks, all focused on race?

Had he not given this speech, his campaign would have suffered.

He said beforehand that the speech would be about race, in an effort to directly deal with the recent attacks.

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   23:25:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#7)

I have long been disgusted by his church, so I haven't looked at the "firestorms" as an issue. I'm actually more critical of his association with Saul Alinsky.

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-18   23:28:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: buckeye (#8)

I have long been disgusted by his church

His church or the former paster, Rev Jeremiah Wright?

This speech was given to address his remarks. And Obama did so extremely well.

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   23:30:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robin (#9)

The church. I didn't focus on the preacher very much. I do recognize why black Americans might congregate together that way. His years of attendance there are a strong indication of the kind of chip I'd rather not see being carried into the White house on the shoulders of the president.

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-18   23:34:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: buckeye, robin (#10)

I do recognize why black Americans might congregate together that way.

The history of it is that Blacks originally congregated that way because the Methodist Episcopal churches where they went in the 1780s deemed them undesirable and chose to segregate them. Some were pulled off their knees and ordered to the back of the church. They left that church as a group and formed the African Methodist Episcopal (AME) Church. After a series of lawsuits, they gained a victory in court against opposition, obtained a charter from the General Assembly of Pennsylvania, built a church, and opened in 1794.

Segregation and discrimination persisted for a while.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-03-19   2:53:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#34. To: nolu_chan (#16)

Does no one remember that forced segregation only ended a few decades ago? There are old people who remember the separate drinking fountains, separate restrooms, not being allowed to sit at the counter of a cafe and being denied service altogether. And of course separate schools (Brown vs Board of Education) and told to sit at the back of the bus (Rosa Parks).

As Obama said in his speech, (which a few here are refusing to read or watch), Sunday morning is the most segregated day of the week.

In CA, there are Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese and Samoan churches, where the entire service is in their native tongue. The language makes for a reasonable excuse. But that's not why Blacks had to start their own churches.

Jimmy Carter's church was all White. There was one old Black man who liked to point it out by standing outside Carter's church. He did embarrass Carter too. As I recall, they finally said he was welcome to join them. Imagine what a warm experience that would have been for him.

In my family tree, in 1785 in KY, a few of my ancestors started a Baptist church that included 4 free Blacks. In the church minutes there was discussion about allowing them founding member status. A compromise was made, they would be allowed to be founding members, but they're names would not be mentioned. It's the Boone's Creek Baptist church.

This history is dedicated to the memory of Samuel Boone, Sarah Boone, Turner Crump, Robert Fryer, Elizabeth Hazelrigg, James Hazelrigg, John Hazelrigg, Grace Jones, John Morgan, Leah Scholl, William Scholl, George Shortige, Kizziah Shortige, Margaret Shortige, the four unnamed members of that first congregation which met here on the second Sunday in November of 1785, and to Elders John Tanner and John Taylor, whom God led to this place and blessed with his ministry.

I am a direct descendent of the Shortridges and Scholls. From what I can see in the photos of the current congregation, it is entirely white.

On my maternal side of my family tree, there was also tolerance and far more foundings of Baptist Churches starting in 1787, in VA, to Carter valley TN, to MO and then CA. They started only Baptist churches and were present at the first Southern Baptist convention. Because of their Christian faith, they rose above the intolerance around them (but not to the degree of allowing integration or true equality until more recently).

You've Got To Be Carefully Taught

How does that Catholic saying go, give us a child until he is 7? Something like that. But that also works for other types of training as well.

robin  posted on  2008-03-19 10:51:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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