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Title: Obama Speech: 'A More Perfect Union' (youtube)
Source: http://www.youtube.com
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWe7wTVbLUU
Published: Mar 18, 2008
Author: Barack Obama
Post Date: 2008-03-18 13:41:02 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 800
Comments: 54

Obama Speech: 'A More Perfect Union' (~37 minutes)

Barack Obama speaks in Philadelphia, PA at Constitution Center, on matters not just of race and recent remarks but of the fundamental path by which America can work together to pursue a better future.


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Obama Race Speech: The Full Text
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(Breaking) Obama to deliver a major speech on race
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#1. To: Brian S, aristeides, iconoclast, Elliott Jackalope, Arator, christine, Jethro Tull, Cynicom (#0)

ping

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   13:41:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#1)

His speech was brilliant. Strike up "Hail to the Chief" because McCrazy and Hellary are done.

Arator  posted on  2008-03-18   19:20:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Arator (#3)

His speech was brilliant. Strike up "Hail to the Chief" because McCrazy and Hellary are done.

Monumental.

An historic milestone.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-18   23:08:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: iconoclast (#5)

I made it about five minutes into this. The world is on fire and he has time to all this time to talk about being black. Sorry, but it's not good enough.

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-18   23:19:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeye (#6)

Are you aware of the firestorm of smears that he has been through in the past two weeks, all focused on race?

Had he not given this speech, his campaign would have suffered.

He said beforehand that the speech would be about race, in an effort to directly deal with the recent attacks.

robin  posted on  2008-03-18   23:25:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#7)

I have long been disgusted by his church, so I haven't looked at the "firestorms" as an issue. I'm actually more critical of his association with Saul Alinsky.

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-18   23:28:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeye (#8)

I'm actually more critical of his association with Saul Alinsky.

Alinsky was a "bottom-up social activist" ... not some wild eyed bomb thrower or demagogue.

As you know, Hillary beat Obama to Saul's door before Obama was out of knickers.

I recall very little reference to this episode during her "35 years of service".

But Obama's opposers are desperately grasping any and every straw to be found.

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-19   0:23:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: iconoclast (#14)

But Obama's opposers are desperately grasping any and every straw to be found.

You're apologizing for a raving communist.

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-19   6:40:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: buckeye (#17)

You're apologizing for a raving communist.

Are you sure you want to to toss the word "raving" around, buck?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-19   7:52:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: iconoclast (#26)

Are you sure you want to to toss the word "raving" around, buck?

Don't make me laugh! I can't give Hillary Clinton a pass for her former associations with Saul Alinsky, so why should I give BHO a pass for the same? Face it, we're in deep trouble. You're quibbling over which poison we ingest.

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-19   17:34:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: buckeye, iconoclast (#39)

I can't give Hillary Clinton a pass for her former associations with Saul Alinsky, so why should I give BHO a pass for the same?

What association? Obama was ten years old when Alinsky died.

Prior to Alinsky's death, Obama lived in Hawaii or Indonesia.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-03-19   18:07:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: nolu_chan (#41)

Seventeen years later, another young honor student was offered a job as an organizer in Chicago. By then, Alinsky had died, but a group of his disciples hired Barack Obama, a 23-year-old Columbia University graduate, to organize black residents on the South Side, while learning and applying Alinsky's philosophy of street-level democracy. The recruiter called the $13,000-a-year job "very romantic, until you do it."

washingtonpost.com

buckeye  posted on  2008-03-19   18:11:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeye (#42)

By then, Alinsky had died,

There is nothing in your linked source showing any association between Obama and Alinsky, or even showing that they were ever on the same continent. As noted in my #15, to you, Alinsky died when Obama was ten years old.

Can you provide any quote where Obama so much as said anything about Alinsky?

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=76132&Disp=15#C15

There was no association with the corpse of Alinsky.

The article fails to state anything to substantiate that Obama either learned or applied any Alinsky philosophy. Specifically, what are you complaining that Obama said or did?

The article states,

In time, Obama helped build and guide a small network of grass-roots groups that agitated for better playgrounds, improvements in trash pickup and the removal of asbestos from public housing. The city opened a jobs office in the tumbledown community as the lights were going out in nearby factories.
What exactly do you find subversive or offensive?

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-03-20   0:02:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: nolu_chan (#44)

Are you endorsing Obama or just pointing out that some attacks on him are unfair?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-03-20   0:07:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#46. To: Old Friend (#45)

Are you endorsing Obama or just pointing out that some attacks on him are unfair?

Just pointing out some attacks are unfair, unfounded, just plain silly, or possibly true but lacking sufficient factual foundation. Such attacks have been made against all three major candidates, not just Obama.

Such things just divert attention from real issues such as the war and the economy and such.

The character of the candidates is fair game, but for personal attacks on the candidates, I would prefer that it be based on something the candidate said or did, rather than trying to link him or her to something said or done by someone else by some vague connection a la Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon.

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-03-20 04:07:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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