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Title: Obama's lead over Clinton narrows: Reuters poll
Source: Reuters
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/poli ... me=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true
Published: Mar 19, 2008
Author: Steve Holland
Post Date: 2008-03-19 10:55:48 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 1024
Comments: 73

By Steve Holland

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrat Barack Obama's big national lead over Hillary Clinton has all but evaporated in the U.S. presidential race, and both Democrats trail Republican John McCain, according a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.

The poll showed Obama had only a statistically insignificant lead of 47 percent to 44 percent over Clinton, down sharply from a 14 point edge he held over her in February when he was riding the tide of 10 straight victories.

Illinois Sen. Obama, who would be America's first black president, has been buffeted by attacks in recent weeks from New York Sen. Clinton over his fitness to serve as commander-in-chief and by a tempest over racially charged sermons given by his Chicago preacher.

The poll showed Arizona Sen. McCain, who has clinched the Republican presidential nomination, is benefiting from the lengthy campaign battle between Obama and Clinton, who are now battling to win Pennsylvania on April 22.

McCain leads 46 percent to 40 percent in a hypothetical matchup against Obama in the November presidential election, according to the poll.

That is a sharp turnaround from the Reuters/Zogby poll from last month, which showed in a head-to-head matchup that Obama would beat McCain 47 percent to 40 percent.

"The last couple of weeks have taken a toll on Obama and in a general election match-up, on both Democrats," said pollster John Zogby.

Matched up against Clinton, McCain leads 48 percent to 40 percent, narrower than his 50 to 38 percent advantage over her in February.

"It's not surprising to me that McCain's on top because there is disarray and confusion on the Democratic side," Zogby said

Obama gave a speech on Tuesday rebuking his pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, for sermons sometimes laced with inflammatory tirades but said he could not disown him and it was time for Americans to bind the country's racial wounds.

The poll showed Obama continues to have strong support from the African-American community but that he is experiencing some slippage among moderates and independents.

Among independents, McCain led for the first time in the poll, 46 percent to 36 percent over Obama.

He was behind McCain by 21 percent among white voters.

Zogby attributed this to a combination of the fallout from Clinton's victory in Ohio earlier this month and the controversy over Wright's sermons.

"And, just the closer he gets to the nomination, the tougher questions whites ask about an African-American candidate," Zogby said.

The March 13-14 poll surveyed 525 likely Democratic primary voters for the matchup between Clinton and Obama. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.4 percentage points.

For the matchup between McCain and his Democratic rivals, 1004 likely voters were surveyed. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.2 percentage points.

(To read more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters "Tales from the Trail: 2008" online here

(Editing by Todd Eastham)


Poster Comment:

I wonder how much of a bump Obama's speech will give him. He still has the most delegates. Smear tactics seem to work very well.

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#34. To: robin (#31)

OTOH, I KNOW Hillary and McCain would be a disaster. OTOH, I KNOW Hillary and McCain would be a disaster.

So what will you do when Obama is running as VP to Clinton?????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   11:36:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: ghostdogtxn (#27)

At one time, the polls showed that Obama would win against McCain. Hillary's been smearing with the usual Clinton dirty tactics and that has helped McCain and hurt Obama.

I think there is time to reverse that trend. I also think Hillary burnt the possibility of her being Obama's VP.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-19   11:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: robin (#35)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-19   11:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Cynicom (#34)

After her dirty tactics against Obama, which is helping McCain, I don't see either one picking the other for VP.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-19   11:38:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom (#34)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-19   11:38:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: ghostdogtxn (#36)

It really is, and the superdelegates must be disgusted too.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-19   11:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: aristeides (#33)

Is that because you consider her the lesser of the evils?

Good heavens no.

Being a racist I will vote against Obama by checking Clintons name.

Now being even handed about this, Obama will receive many votes because he is black, but keep in mind that is not racist. I just want to make sure we are on the same page.

You do recall I repeat often that this race is skewed by race and gender, with that in mind, I do prefer girls to boys..........

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   11:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: robin (#37)

After her dirty tactics against Obama,

robin...

Wait until the lovefest at the dem convention. A Clinton/Obama ticket is unbeatable even by God himself...and robin must vote for it because she likes Obama.

Obama will sell you out to Clinton, take that to the bank.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   11:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Cynicom (#41)

As I just posted: I KNOW Hillary and McCain would be a disaster. I'm willing to gamble on Obama.

I understand due to Hillary's desperation, her attacks have soured any prospect of an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket. Unless, at the convention, some master mediator of reconciliation, manages somehow to make peace between them "for the good of the party/country".

To be honest, I think he can do better. Someone like Jim Webb or Admiral Fallon would be far better, if they are interested.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-19   11:49:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: robin (#37)

After her dirty tactics against Obama, which is helping McCain, I don't see either one picking the other for VP.

It would be risky for Obama to turn down the VP slot because that could spell the end of his presidential aspirations. This is Hillary's last chance, and she has nothing to lose.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-03-19   11:56:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Cynicom (#40)

Well, if you're willing to vote for Hillary (something that will benefit Hillary, or McCain, or both,) I don't think you should criticize people who support Obama.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-19   11:57:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: robin (#42)

Unless, at the convention, some master mediator of reconciliation, manages somehow to make peace between them "for the good of the party/country".

Good of the party or country is the least of anyones interest.

It is all about winning. Obama knows full well that if Clinton wins, his only salvation is to be VP, if not he is done in politics.

Go back a few years to JFK/LBJ.. they hated each other with a passion but at the convention you would have sworn it was a father/son lovefest. what happened?

They won, beat Nixon by a hair. The ONLY way to win was that combination.

With Obama on the ticket he brings 90 % of the black vote, guaranteed.

Clinton/Anyname vs McKook, the crazy man might win.

You would never make a poker player robin.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   12:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: aristeides (#44)

Well, if you're willing to vote for Hillary (something that will benefit Hillary, or McCain, or both,) I don't think you should criticize people who support Obama.

Ari...

Now your bias is showing not your intellect.

I said I am voting AGAINST Obama and for a reason, and in Nov will write in Paul regardless of whom you and the establishment present, so there.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   12:02:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Cynicom (#45) (Edited)

With Obama on the ticket he brings 90 % of the black vote, guaranteed.

The Democrats can count on 90% of the black vote no matter who they run and who the Republicans run. Where Obama might help Clinton is with college-age kids who would not have voted at all if it hadn't been for the mass media's Obamamania.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-03-19   12:03:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Cynicom (#46)

Whatever your reason, you're going to do something that you have to know will benefit Hillary, or McCain, or both. And it's hard to understand how that is not your intent.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-19   12:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Cynicom (#46)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-19   12:09:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#47)

The Democrats can count on 90% of the black vote no matter who they run and who the Republicans run. Where Obama might help Clinton is with college-age kids who would not have voted at all if they hadn't been for the mass media's Obamamania.

Clinton/Obama is an unstoppable ticket.

Clinton needs Obama and Obama will not throw everything away as a matter of pride, his desire for power is as great as hers. They will use each other.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   12:11:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: ghostdogtxn (#49)

Okay. And what was that?

If I said because I am a racist, you would get all lathered up over that, assuring me that you already knew that...

Cast that aside, just for a moment. Consider that Obama came from nowhere to be the darling of American voters, untold money falls from heaven, guilt ridden whites stand in line to worship. Put your bias aside and think that perhaps Obama was created for some other use.

If you cannot or will not, then go back to the racist thing where you feel comfortable.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   12:17:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Cynicom (#40)

Being a racist I will vote against Obama by checking Clintons name.

Lol. Come on, Cyni, stop being all PC and tell us how you really feel!

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-03-19   12:19:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Vitamin Z (#52)

Lol. Come on, Cyni, stop being all PC and tell us how you really feel!

Z...

I have yet to see these people condemn blacks for voting Obama because he is black.

I save them the trouble of calling me racist, saves time.

I hazard not a one of these people read and digested even one primary statistics.

DC is the outstanding and glaring example.. Headlines said McKook and Obama sweep DC.

Really?????

Obama received 85,000 votes and McKook 3900.

Now anyone that studies that and sees nothing, should not be voting.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   12:25:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Cynicom (#51)

Consider that Obama came from nowhere to be the darling of American voters, untold money falls from heaven, guilt ridden whites stand in line to worship.

Obama's career is a creation of the mass media, the hoola hoop of American politics. When a complete unknown and a mediocrity suddenly gets catapulted into the Senate (where his achievements were zip) and turned into a top Presidential contender, it's obvious that he's someone's tool. The only question is whose tool he is.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-03-19   12:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Cynicom (#51)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-19   12:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Cynicom (#53)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-19   12:30:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#54)

Obama's career is a creation of the mass media, the hoola hoop of American politics. When a complete unknown and a mediocrity suddenly gets catapulted into the Senate (where his achievements were zip) and turned into a top Presidential contender, it's obvious that he's someone's tool. The only question is whose tool he is.

Rupert...

You might add...useful tool...therein lies a mystery. One that thinking people might take time to consider.

Instead we have people here running on emotions.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   12:31:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Cynicom (#53) (Edited)

I have yet to see these people condemn blacks for voting Obama because he is black.

Something like 90% of blacks are voting for Obama. That's fine, but voting for a candidate because of his race is every bit as "racist" as opposing a candidate because of his race.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-03-19   12:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Cynicom (#45)

Clinton/Anyname vs McKook, the crazy man might win.

I understand McKooK is currently ahead in some national polls. And, if you've noticed of late, Iraq has become a media success story, hence it's a feather in the cap for the War Class. Obama's early opposition to the war is being slowly removed as a campaign positive. It's looking more and more as if the strategy of Rs - crossing over party lines and voting for Hillary - is working. Shall we toss a few votes Hillary's way here in PA to keep the latent racist stuck in the mire of nasty Clintoid politics? Who can forget Obama's early cry for the head of Imus for saying nasty things, but excusing a fellow brother when he slamed whitey for spreading the AIDS virus in the black community?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-03-19   12:54:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Vitamin Z (#58)

That's fine, but voting for a candidate because of his race is every bit as "racist" as opposing a candidate because of his race

Z...

To an unbiased thinking person, that is correct.

Many people will not or cannot lay aside their own bias and emotions in a manner that would perhaps help them to see what is going on in front of them.

I voted Perot for a choice as did 20 million other AMERICANS. We have no choice here as there is not even a lesser of three evils, people that believe otherwise are fooling themselves as the system is fooling them.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   12:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Jethro Tull (#59)

Shall we toss a few votes Hillary's way here in PA to keep the latent racist stuck in the mire of nasty Clintoid politics?

I intend to do my part to that exact end.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   12:57:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Cynicom (#45)

Go back a few years to JFK/LBJ.. they hated each other with a passion but at the convention you would have sworn it was a father/son lovefest. what happened?

Sounds like a master mediator of reconciliation at the convention managed to convince them it was for the good of the party/country.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-19   12:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Vitamin Z (#43)

And it is possible that at the convention someone will convince them to accept a Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-19   12:59:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: robin (#62)

Sounds like a master mediator of reconciliation at the convention managed to convince them it was for the good of the party/country.

Most likely that was afore your political life.

Both men had lust for power. Both were willing to submit to a shotgun wedding in that they each would gain. One without the other would have meant neither gained anything and Nixon would have won.

No one had to marry them, they hated each other but wanted glory and power so badly they kissed in public, the rest is history.

Nixon lost by 100,000 votes or so but being a better man than JFK and LBJ he refused a recount. Few recall that. JFK did.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   13:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Jethro Tull (#59)

Who can forget Obama's early cry for the head of Imus for saying nasty things, but excusing a fellow brother when he slamed whitey for spreading the AIDS virus in the black community?

I think Obama is starting to realize that his affiliation with black supremacists might hurt him.

Obama's race or affiliation isn't what bugs me. It's that he is probably the most globalist Marxist candidate to ever run for president.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-03-19   13:05:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Vitamin Z (#65)

Obama's race or affiliation isn't what bugs me. It's that he is probably the most globalist Marxist candidate to ever run for president.

You are not supposed to see or concern yourself with that.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   13:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Vitamin Z (#65)

It's that he is probably the most globalist Marxist candidate to ever run for president.

Yes, the Ds are running increasingly to the hard left, while the Rs are corporate, free trading liberals. There is absolutely no distinction between the evil either side can do to us.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-03-19   13:10:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Cynicom (#64)

They say Nixon lost b/c of a 5:00 shadow during that televised debate.

My mother voted for him, but soon after JFK came to office, she was already saying she would vote for JFK next time.

And in the same way Johnson was an unhealthy choice for VP, so is Hillary.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-19   13:17:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Cynicom (#66)

You are not supposed to see or concern yourself with that.

You're right. Obama is half-black, so I should not criticize him.

Can I still criticize his white half?

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-03-19   13:17:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Vitamin Z (#69)

Can I still criticize his white half?

Uhhhh, oh, well, uhhhh, can I get back to you on that?

You are brilliant. I can now criticize Obama all I want, when people here scream at me, I can say I am denouncing his white half. Damn, brilliant. thank you.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   13:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Cynicom (#70)

I can say I am denouncing his white half.

I don't think that explains why Hillary is better. Or McCain, for that matter.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-19   13:58:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: aristeides (#71)

I don't think that explains why Hillary is better. Or McCain, for that matter.

Three peas in a pod, they all green, they all look alike, some may be bigger than others, still they are all peas.

Oh, and the pod is the establishment that has given all of them birth.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   14:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Cynicom (#72)

But nevertheless you say you're going to vote for one of those peas in a pod.

Strange.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-19   14:04:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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