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Title: Obama's faith in the reasoning abilities of the American public (GLENN GREENWALD)
Source: Glenn Greenwald Salon
URL Source: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/03/18/obama/index.html
Published: Mar 18, 2008
Author: Glenn Greenwald
Post Date: 2008-03-19 14:36:27 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 190
Comments: 14

Obama's faith in the reasoning abilities of the American public

Tuesday March 18, 2008 19:51 EDT

(updated below)

I haven't written about the Obama speech yet because I spent much of the day reading the instantaneous reactions of virtually everyone else, and because the issues raised by the speech are complex and my views about it are somewhat ambiguous. Personally, I found the speech riveting, provocative, insightful, thoughtful and courageous -- courageous because it eschewed almost completely all cliches, pandering and condescension, the first time I can recall a political figure of any significance doing so when addressing a controversial matter.

There were numerous manipulative tactics which the average cynical political strategist would have urged him to employ, and none of those were found in his speech. It was as candid and sophisticated a discussion of the complexities of race in America as any individual could possibly manage in a 45-minute speech, particularly one delivered in the middle of a heated presidential campaign and a shrill political controversy. Then again, I found the whole Wright "controversy" manufactured and relatively petty from the start, and worse, the by-product of a glaring double standard, so the speech obviously wasn't aimed at people who had the beliefs about this whole matter that I had.

The speech will be adored by Obama fans, the political and media elite, and high-information, politically engaged voters other than those firmly entrenched on the Right. But politically speaking, that isn't the target audience either. Barbara O'Brien describes perfectly the real question with regard to the speech's political impact:

I think the question about the speech, articulated by Rachel Maddow on David Gregory’s new MSNBC program, is whether white America will step up and receive the speech in the same spirit in which it was given. Obama's speech was challenging. He assumed that his audience could hear his words and and think about them. He assumed people could get beyond simple narratives, sound bytes, and jerking knees.

Steve M. reluctantly makes the case as to why the speech won't work despite (or, more accurately, because of) its high-minded, steadfast refusal to pander:

The premises [the speech] lays out require you to be an adult, and I'm not convinced that most Americans are adults, at least when looking for a candidate to support. . . .

This isn't what Americans like to hear in political speeches. They like to hear: Good people = us (America, our party). Bad people = them (communists, terrorists, criminals, drug dealers, our ideological opposites, the other party, or some group we identify in code rather than explicitly).

That wasn't the tone of this speech. I hope I'm wrong, but Obama may pay a price for not giving people what they like to hear.

The entire premise of Barack Obama's candidacy is built upon the opposite assumption -- that Americans are not only able, but eager, to participate in a more elevated and reasoned political discourse, one that moves beyond the boisterous, screeching, simple-minded, ugly, vapid attack-based distractions and patronizing manipulation -- the Drudgian Freak Show -- that has dominated our political debates for the last two decades at least.

Nobody actually knows which of these views are right because there hasn't been a serious national campaign in a very long time that has attempted to elevate itself above the Drudgian muck by relying (not entirely, but mostly) upon reasoned discourse and substantive discussions -- at least not with the potency that Obama generates. Will George Bush's ranch hats and Willie Horton's scary face and Al Gore's earth tones and John Kerry's windsurfing tights inevitably overwhelm sober, substantive discussions of the fundamental political crises plaguing the country? Obama's insistence that Americans are hungry for that sort of elevated debate and are able to engage it -- and his willingness to stake his campaign on his being right about that -- has been, in my view, one of the most admirable aspects of his candidacy.

But in Obama's faith in the average American voter lies one of the greatest weaknesses of his campaign. His faith in the ability and willingness of Americans to rise above manipulative political tactics seems drastically to understate both the efficacy of such tactics and the deafening amplification they receive from our establishment press. Even Americans who authentically believe that they want a "new, better politics" may be swayed by the same old Drudgian sewerage because it is powerful and ubiquitous.

Petty, personality-based demonization works, and the belief that it won't work any longer in the absence of a major war against it may be more a by-product of faith and desire than reality. Obama's calm reason and rational (though inspiring) discourse are matched against very visceral images and psychologically gripping strategies. As Pam Spaulding said in commenting on the Jeremiah Wright videos:

That said, people have to acknowledge part of the reason for the discomfort lies in Wright's delivery of the message. It's so black, isn't it? It sounds militant to tender ears outside the traditional black church. . . .

I want to turn the discussion back to race, because I think this episode with Rev. Wright exposed the whole "scary black revolution" primal fear here. . . .

When I heard Wright, I heard a delivery not unlike the unhinged gay-bashing Rev. Willie Wilson . . . . The delivery sounds so angry, so harsh to many. You get the feeling, based on the reaction out there, that people are afraid Barack Obama by association, is some sort of Trojan Horse of Black Anger waiting to be unleashed, prepared to exact revenge on white society by pulling their wool over their eyes by appearing friendly, "articulate" and non-threatening. In other words -- not that [Wright] kind of black guy.

In 1988, those deep-seated, lurking fears were stirred up perfectly by Lee Atwater and Roger Ailes in order to defeat the Willie-Horton-loving Michael Dukakis. The entire Obama campaign is predicated on the belief that it is no longer 1988. As David Axelrod put it when asked if there was debate within the Obama campaign about whether he should give this speech:

It wasn't even a discussion. He was going to do it. I know this sounds perhaps corny, but he actually believes in the fairness and good sense of the American people, and the importance of this issue. His candidacy is predicated on the fact that we can talk to each other in an honest and forthright way on this and other issues.

The New Republic's Michael Crowley, with one of the better discussions of the Obama speech, similarly reported:

The information era being what it is, I was already debating my thesis via email with an Obama aide as I wrote this reaction. He warned me against assuming that Reagan Democrats are defined by the same racial prejudices that defined them in the 1980s, back when crime and welfare were primary political issues, when one Willie Horton could turn an election. He may be right. I hope he is. Unfortunately, I fear that America hasn't come nearly as far as he hopes. But it is the answer to that question that will determine the fate of Barack Obama.

I think that's a perfect summation of the overarching question, one that nobody is really able to answer. The truly distinctive and "change"-oriented aspect of Obama's campaign lies not in any new or exotic policy positions -- his views on the Middle East, for instance, are often as conventional as it gets. What is distinctive is the far more consequential assumption that Americans want and are able to engage an elevated and more noble type of politics than the depressingly familiar garbage spewed from the Rush Limbaugh Show, The Drudge Report, Fox News, the cable news media stars, and all of their cooperating media and political appendages. We'll know soon enough if Obama is right.

UPDATE: In comments, DCLaw1 makes as compelling a case as can be made as to why Obama's speech will succeed politically, with an emphasis on the importance of how well-received it was by the media and political elite. It's well worth reading.

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#1. To: aristeides (#0) (Edited)

The entire premise of Barack Obama's candidacy is built upon the opposite assumption -- that Americans are not only able, but eager, to participate in a more elevated and reasoned political discourse, one that moves beyond the boisterous, screeching, simple-minded, ugly, vapid attack-based distractions and patronizing manipulation -- the Drudgian Freak Show -- that has dominated our political debates for the last two decades at least.

(sigh)

Obama speech brings wide range of reactions

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-19   14:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: aristeides (#0)

Daily Show is amazed that a politician treats Americans as adults

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-19   14:45:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: aristeides (#0)

Obama's speech was challenging. He assumed that his audience could hear his words and and think about them. He assumed people could get beyond simple narratives, sound bytes, and jerking knees.

Oh please. Obama, the Messiah, is just so above politics and even His own audience. If He would only come to down to our mere mortal level, we could better understand His Lordship.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-03-19   14:52:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#2)

Posted By: TexMex @ 03/19/2008 2:43:08 PM

Comment: I was not able to see the entire speech on tv, so I have printed out the transcript. Finally! Someone has had the courage (and of all people a politician) to speak the racial truths of the United States without seeming like a country-hating anarchist. This transcript is not hanging on my family's "Special" bulletin board so that my children can read and see what real leadership should look like. I must admit, I was an Obama supporter before he made this speech, (but I will also vote for Hillary if she becomes the nominee), but I have always been wary of politicians. They always promise voters the world during elections....and then we get 4 years of broken promises and excuses. I am a Mexican-American and race is something I deal with everyday. To have a politician come out and admit that there is still much work to be done...and by ALL of us...and not push the blame on any one race...is just amazing and truthful. For the first time ever, a politician has gained my respect. Hillary Clinton is a good candidate, and I believe she could do much to help our country, but I know that Barack Obama could do so much more. For the first time I have hope that all the illegal immigration rhetoric which has cause my children in school to suffer from the racial statements made from their classmates....may actually get better or be solved without my having to move my family to a different state. Speaking spanish with my husband in the local grocery store draws dirty looks form others, and I have even been spit on and told to "go home to Mexico." But maybe, just maybe if we could all talk about race plainly and openly we could address some of these issues and move beyond them. Thank you Barack...for you have given me hope....and even if you don't win the presidency, your speech will live on in my tiny house, with my family, and in my heart; because we CAN change and you have shown me that this is possible. Thank you. C. Ortiz

A comment to the Newsweek piece that Greenwald mentions.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-19   14:56:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vitamin Z (#3)

This is where we are right now. It’s a racial stalemate we’ve been stuck in for years. Contrary to the claims of some of my critics, black and white, I have never been so naïve as to believe that we can get beyond our racial divisions in a single election cycle, or with a single candidacy – particularly a candidacy as imperfect as my own.

But I have asserted a firm conviction – a conviction rooted in my faith in God and my faith in the American people – that working together we can move beyond some of our old racial wounds, and that in fact we have no choice is we are to continue on the path of a more perfect union.

Perhaps you didn't notice that Obama admitted in his speech that he is imperfect.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-19   15:01:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vitamin Z (#3)

Repeated failures in judgement.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-03-19   15:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: aristeides (#0)

that Americans are not only able, but eager, to participate in a more elevated and reasoned political discourse

That they are. But most can't handle the facts. Yet.

Question Diversity

Tauzero  posted on  2008-03-19   18:29:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tauzero (#7)

That they are. But most can't handle the facts. Yet.

Who decides when? I'd like to hear them.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-03-19   18:34:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: aristeides (#4)

For the first time I have hope that all the illegal immigration rhetoric which has cause my children in school to suffer from the racial statements made from their classmates....may actually get better or be solved without my having to move my family to a different state. Speaking spanish with my husband in the local grocery store draws dirty looks form others, and I have even been spit on and told to "go home to Mexico."

Reminds me of my wife's upbringing.

Some white tykes nearly ripped her earrings out.

I would never wish that on anyone, but if her father had a clue, which he did, he had to have known things like that were a possibility when he moved to that small town.

How did they handle it? He told her life wasn't fair.

She has for the most part assimilated -- and learned resilience -- not despite of that, but because of it.

She still strongly identifies with and loves her relatives in Puerto Rico, but she sure wouldn't want to live there.

Question Diversity

Tauzero  posted on  2008-03-19   18:42:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Peppa (#8)

It's like obscenity. You'll know it when you see it.

Question Diversity

Tauzero  posted on  2008-03-19   18:44:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Tauzero (#10)

It's like obscenity. You'll know it when you see it.

You're not going to share your decoder ring with me are you?

I'm not sure we have the luxury of time.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-03-19   18:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Peppa (#11)

I'm not sure we have the luxury of time.

Define your goals right, and you have all the time in the world.

I have no decoder ring. Fact is, it's all in the hands of animal spirits, facts notwithstanding.

Question Diversity

Tauzero  posted on  2008-03-19   18:56:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Tauzero (#12) (Edited)

Define your goals right, and you have all the time in the world.

I just want to know what 'social gospel' means for starters. It meant something to Obama, and I just want to understand it. My goal, is to understand what he is saying.

As for the animals spirits, I get humor. :)

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-03-19   19:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: aristeides (#0)

Personally, I found the speech riveting, provocative, insightful, thoughtful and courageous -- courageous because it eschewed almost completely all cliches, pandering and condescension, the first time I can recall a political figure of any significance doing so when addressing a controversial matter.

The same crap warmed over can be served up if you polish it enough.

I read over Obama's speech and then went back and looked at speeches given by Dubya in the 1998 to 2002 time frame. It's almost exactly the same. Blah Balh tolerance blah blah unity blah blah god bless America blah blah we have trouble but were still the best blah blah blah retch.

In an English class years ago the instructor had us do an exersize. Everyone was given a copy of the alphabet and instructed to recite it to the class. Some just read it rote, others squirmed at the podium, a few gave rousing and very interesting reads. Yet, in the end it was the exact same thing being repeated. I see little difference between that and the current political posturing.

I must admit that the elites have pulled another masterful scam on the masses. Have two lunatics as the head of each major political party and spend all day on their speeches about how many nations they will nuke when elected. Then bring in an "outsider" who doesn't want to mash the big red button till his finger breaks. Presto! Suddenly your average statist, freedom hating, blue blood is the best politician EVAR.

Wow, someone who won't cause the world to end. Truely this must be proof that the election process still works! Vote Obama: It's not the end of the world.

What a damn racket.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.

"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-03-19   19:08:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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