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Title: The New Black Panther Party endorses Obama
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URL Source: http://my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/gGrXCt
Published: Mar 19, 2008
Author: New Black Panther Party
Post Date: 2008-03-19 15:40:40 by Jethro Tull
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#31. To: ghostdogtxn (#27)

http://my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/public/gGrXCt

_______  posted on  2008-03-19   16:49:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: ghostdogtxn (#29)

I can't seem to get you bozo'd.

You a bozoer????

Damn, my estimation of you went in the tank.

Bozoing is for sissies, weenies, wussies and other assorted girly men.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   16:52:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: ghostdogtxn (#29)

Were you born this pathetic, or is this the culmination of a long, hard road?

_______  posted on  2008-03-19   16:52:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: ghostdogtxn (#24)

I think some intellectual honesty would go a long way with you libs.

It simply isn't a good thing that Lord Obama is endorsed by the Black Panthers and uses Big Al as a mentor.

He's toast.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-03-19   16:53:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom, ghostdogtxn, _______ (#32)

That is a profile of one individual.

Anyone who registers has a profile page.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-19   16:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: _______ (#31)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-19   16:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Jethro Tull (#34)

toast????

As in black burned toast????

I look for Obama to take a dive as the natives are restless and want this thing over with so they make take on McKook. Clinton has offered the number two spot, he better take it now.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   16:55:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom (#32)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-19   16:56:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: robin, ghostdogtxn, Cynicom (#35)

When and where did you ever see those endorsements prominently displayed on RonPaul2008.com, cool Black Panther and all?

When did you flip out, Brother?

I stand corrected.

When and where did you EVER see those endorsements displayed ANYWHERE on RonPaul2008.com, cool racist symbolisms and all?

_______  posted on  2008-03-19   16:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jethro Tull (#34)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-19   17:00:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: ghostdogtxn (#36)

That's a facebook ad, dumbshit. Anyone could post that crap there. So much for "prominently displayed". Notice it's ranking and the complete lack of comments on it. Hell, you probaby posted it there yourself.

lol

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-19   17:00:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: ghostdogtxn, Jethro tull (#38)

The funny thing is that at some point you must have thought your estimation of me meant something to me.

I agree, your self esteem at times must be low but I take that into consideration.

If you were to put your best pals here on bozo, we would have no one to joust with. I would never dream of bozoing anyone, not even Ari and he bugs me all the time.

So, keep up the good work ghost, we love you in spite of yourself.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   17:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: ghostdogtxn (#24)

Barack Obama is going to be here in Eugene on Friday at the University of Oregon. I plan on going to listen to what he has to say. Eugene is a very very liberal city. I saw Bill Clinton at the same venue just before he became POTUS and he was treated like a Hollywood star here.

I expect it to be an over flowing crowd. He is winning the lawn sign battle locally, and the mindset of Eugene does not look fondly at dynasties. I expect him to trounce Hilary in the Oregon primary. He'll take Lane County where I live by a two digit margin.

I worked on Jesse Jackson's campaign here when he ran in the primary. Eugene is a diversity friendly city. I can't think of any group that is not protected from job and housing discrimination here in Eugene. Barack Obama does not have to worry about who wins this state.

Old people I know still gush about John Kennedy's 1960 primary visit here. And he has hit the same nerve JFK did visiting here, no question about that. There is a statue of Wayne Lyman Morse here too, with a federal building of the same name, the man known as the tiger of the Senate who voted against the Gulf of Tonkin resolution.

The peace march here this last week was large this community pays undying close attention of who voted on what, and who supported or facilitated what.

Ron Paul was the favorite of many I know here pure and simply because of his war stance; to hell with worrying about anything else he supported they disagreed with.

The same crowd discusses and worries about Obama's commitment to end the insanity of this illegal and immoral war. However he voted the right way not to authorize it, Hillary the wrong way.

She has no wiggle room to win this crowd over. She is toast here from the start simply on the war issue alone.


Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggy, till you find a large rock.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-03-19   17:03:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Ferret Mike (#43)

Ron Paul was the favorite of many I know here pure and simply because of his war stance; to hell with worrying about anything else he supported they disagreed with.

Do you agree with Ron Paul that Obama is a fraud, that he has voted to fund the wars, and that he will expand the wars?

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-03-19   17:05:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: robin (#41)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-19   17:08:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Vitamin Z (#44)

Obama grassroots leader now supports Ron Paul

The head of ObamaLA is now a Ron Paul supporter. I guess he realized the Federal Reserve really is a problem, or that Obama isn’t quite as pro-freedom as he thinks (Though, I suppose, better than the rest).

Here’s his comment on his site now:

My name is Marc Whittemore. I started the original grassroots group ObamaLA and carried it until it was 2,500 people strong. Having done substancially more homework now I am inclined to switch my vote.

Make no mistake about it — I think Obama would make an AWESOME President — far better than any other stale “part of the problem” Democrat running. However. In case you have not noticed America is picking up “flush momentum” and going down the tubes FAST. We no longer have time for rehersals or inexperience. We MUST get it right and get it right this time. We don’t even have the luxury of voting along party lines if we are to get it right.

And so. Even more surprising is that for the first time in my 32 years of voting I will be voting for a Republican president. And that Republican is Ron Paul. Listen people. And take the time to listen CLOSELY to Ron Paul — because, like the last, we can ill afford one more drastic idiot mistake in the White House. Lives depend on making the right choice — indeed our entire nation depends on the right choice this time.

Sincerely,
Marc Whittemore
Los Angeles, CA

Make no mistake about it — I think Obama would make an AWESOME President —

A little Kool-Aid makes the poison tasteless. Some people just make me shake my head.

_______  posted on  2008-03-19   17:10:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: ghostdogtxn, cynicom, all (#40)

''whatchoo talkin' bout?''

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-03-19   17:11:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Cynicom (#42)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-19   17:11:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Ferret Mike (#43)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-19   17:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: ghostdogtxn (#1)

Given the hay made by others about the unsavory nature of certain folks who endorsed Ron Paul, I wouldn't make too much of this.

If he doesn't disavow this group quickly he's making a big mistake. It's already late .... should have been rejected immediately.Why not? He'd lose any substantial number of black voters? Is Obama between a rock and hard place already? Did the RP campaign idiots move over to his team? He's got to nip these things in the bud or he'll be on the defensive 24-7 from now to whenever.

It'll be the hottest topic in PA bars tomorrow if it isn't already. It's probably flying through the E-mail world as we discuss it. The way to put out a fire is before it gets out of control.

The road to perdition .... Bush/Clinton/Bush/McClinton

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-19   17:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: All (#44)

Do you agree with Ron Paul that Obama is a fraud, that he has voted to fund the wars, and that he will expand the wars?

No one seems to want to answer that question. If Ron Paul is a man of honesty and integrity, and John McCain once called Paul "The most honest man in Congress," I see no reason to disbelieve what Paul says about Obama.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-03-19   17:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: ghostdogtxn (#48)

ghost...

Well, I have never considered bozoing anyone. There is not a soul on here that does not from time to time add something that I do not know.

Just because I do not agree with contents of a book, I do not throw it away. The author was trying to tell me something and just perhaps I missed it.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   17:17:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Jethro Tull (#47)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-19   17:18:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: iconoclast (#50)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-19   17:24:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Cynicom (#52)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-19   17:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: ghostdogtxn (#55)

My reading is not confined to the elite literature of Hustler, Playboy etc.

I do know you look at the photos tho.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   17:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Cynicom (#56)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-19   17:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: ghostdogtxn (#55)

Sometimes if the cover looks like crap, the inside of the book is crap, too.

Don't steal my lines.

Question Diversity

Tauzero  posted on  2008-03-19   17:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Tauzero (#58)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-19   17:57:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: robin, ALL (#59)

does anyone know which post messed up this thread?

christine  posted on  2008-03-19   18:10:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: christine (#60)

Prolly something ghost did.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   18:11:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: christine (#60)

Maybe!

_______  posted on  2008-03-19   18:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: All, _______ (#60)

nevermind! it was the crickets that didn't wrap. sorry, _______, i had to delete your cricket jpgs so i could read the thread.

christine  posted on  2008-03-19   18:13:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: christine (#63)

You could have left ONE cricket!!

_______  posted on  2008-03-19   18:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: _______ (#64)

hehehehe, i didn't think of that. you can post another one.

christine  posted on  2008-03-19   18:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: christine (#65)

Catch it if you can.

_______  posted on  2008-03-19   18:19:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Cynicom (#61)

Prolly something ghost did.

He's blowing the dust off his law books in hopes of salvaging Obama's rapidly declining reputation.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-03-19   18:21:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Jethro Tull (#67)

He's blowing the dust off his law books

Law books?????

You mean ghost is another one of THOSE????? Well, that explains a lot.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-19   18:26:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: All (#66)

Malcolm Che Obama was a pretty good set up guy for Hillary!

March 7, 2008

New Black Panther Party Supports Obama; More on the UCC Issue

NBPP = “A mix of black nationalism, Pan-Africanism and racist and anti-Semitic bigotry.”

by Bill Levinson

Obama and New Black Panther PartyNoting that this page has acquired 396 points (presumably from activities with Obama ‘08 or ratings from other participants), it is difficult to believe that Obama’s staff is not aware of this page. Furthermore, there is a link for reporting the profile to the administrator. We presume that it has been used but, as with our numerous complaints about Obama’s promotion and endorsement of Al Sharpton, the reports have probably been brushed off or ignored. Obama’s acceptance of the New Black Panther Party’s support would be entirely consistent with his reluctance to “reject” Louis Farrakhan’s endorsement, and his actual endorsement of Al Sharpton and his National Action Network. The latter shares a common language with the New Black Panther Party, since both are familiar with the phrase “bloodsucking Jews” and other forms of racist and anti-Semitic hate speech.


Anti-Defamation League page on the New Black Panther Party:

Founder: Aaron Michaels
Leader: Malik Zulu Shabazz
Headquarters: Washington, D.C.
Founded: 1990
Ideology: A mix of black nationalism, Pan-Africanism and racist and anti-Semitic bigotry
Influences: Original Black Panthers, Black Panther Militia, Nation of Islam


[Khallid Abdul] Muhammad’s rise through the group’s hierarchy was abruptly halted in November 1993, after he delivered a notoriously anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, homophobic and racist speech at New Jersey’s Kean College. In his remarks, Muhammad referred to Jews as “bloodsuckers,” called for genocide against whites, vulgarly ridiculed Pope John Paul II and demeaned homosexuals. The speech attracted significant media attention, and Muhammad was condemned by a wide range of religious and political leaders - including the U.S. Congress, which issued a condemnation in 1994 that decried the speech as “outrageous hatemongering of the most vicious and vile kind.” Farrakhan responded to the controversy by removing Muhammad from the group’s leadership, although the NOI leader noted that he faulted only the form, not “the truth,” of Muhammad’s remarks.

Update on the IRS investigation of Obama’s church
We will say up front that we have very little use for the United Church of Christ (UCC) and especially the Trinity United Church of Christ, of which Barack Hussein Obama is a member. The UCC is associated with the unsavory Sabeel Ecuminical Liberation Theology Center and Naim Ateek, who both refer to the establishment of Israel as the Nakba (”Catastrophe”). To this may be added the racism of TUCC, whose pastor, Jeremiah Wright, says that “white America” got a “wake up call” on 9/11.

    ADL Troubled by United Church of Christ’s Embrace of Radicalized Palestinian Christian Group
    New York, NY, January 10, 2006 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) is troubled by the United Church of Christ’s continuing partnership with the Sabeel Ecumenical Liberation Theology Center, a radicalized Palestinian Christian group whose leaders have openly questioned Israel’s right to exist.

Now that the United Church of Christ is under investigation by the Internal Revenue Service for allegedly allowing Barack Obama to misuse its tax exempt resources to promote his campaign, we could easily indulge in some Schadenfreude, or vicarious enjoyment of an adversary’s troubles. On the other hand, common justice and decency requires us to determine whether our adversary really deserves to be in trouble for something it might not have done. While prosecution for something he didn’t do might be Karmic justice for someone like Mike Nifong, the disgraced and disbarred prosecutor who allegedly withheld exculpatory evidence in the Duke Lacrosse rape case, UCC’s current troubles with the Internal Revenue Service are totally unrelated to its relationship with Sabeel. If people walked away from UCC in disgust over this relationship, the punishment would indeed fit the offense, but jeopardization of UCC’s tax exempt status by Barack Obama’s alleged abuse of the church’s trust would not.

Our question is whether the UCC willfully or even carelessly used its tax exempt resources (in this case its annual meeting, which was held at the Hartford Civic Center) to promote a political figure’s candidacy. Doing so is cause for revocation of the organization’s tax exemption. ”IRS Investigation: A Test Of Church’s Faith?” by UCC minister Davida Foy Crabtree asserts, however, that the church made reasonable efforts to obey the rules. This suggests that the blame lies elsewhere.

Reverend Crabtree asserts,

    Our purpose in inviting Sen. Obama in the spring of 2006 — long before he was a candidate for the presidency — was to ask him to address the connection between his Christian faith and his public service, to speak to us of the challenges for people of faith in the public square today. And he did so with eloquence. As a prominent member of our church, his was a natural invitation, just as the others were. To avoid any hint of endorsement or promotion, our national officers and our denominational attorney established clear understandings with Sen. Obama’s office in Washington. He readily agreed to all of them. We made it clear not only to his campaign staff but also to our own synod delegates and visitors that no advocacy or promotion of his candidacy would be permitted.

This shows that:

  1. The United Church of Christ was aware of its obligations as a tax exempt organization.
  2. The United Church of Christ communicated these rules to Senator Obama’s office.
  3. Barack Obama and his staff said that they understood that “no advocacy or promotion of his candidacy would be permitted,” and that they agreed to follow these rules.

The Internal Revenue Service alleges, however, that “Our concerns are based on articles posted on several websites, including the church’s, which state that United States Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama addressed nearly 10,000 church members gathered at the United Church of Christ’s General Synod at the Hartford Civic Center on June 23, 2007. In addition, 40 Obama volunteers staffed campaign tables outside the center to promote his campaign.” Even worse, however, is Obama’s speech, “A Politics of Conscience.”

Note the key word “written” in the title. In other words, Obama did not forget the rules to which he agreed while he spoke spontaneously or off the cuff. He wrote his speech in advance, and therefore had plenty of time to reflect on how a phrase like “I have made a solemn pledge that I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president” would contravene the promise that “no advocacy or promotion of his candidacy would be permitted.”

A Politics of Conscience
Written by Senator Barack Obama
June 23, 2007

It’s great to be here. I’ve been speaking to a lot of churches recently, so it’s nice to be speaking to one that’s so familiar. I understand you switched venues at considerable expense and inconvenience because of unfair labor practices at the place you were going to be having this synod. Clearly, the past 50 years have not weakened your resolve as faithful witnesses of the gospel. And I’m glad to see that.

It’s been several months now since I announced I was running for president. In that time, I’ve had the chance to talk with Americans all across this country. And I’ve found that no matter where I am, or who I’m talking to, there’s a common theme that emerges. It’s that folks are hungry for change – they’re hungry for something new. They’re ready to turn the page on the old politics and the old policies – whether it’s the war in Iraq or the health care crisis we’re in, or a school system that’s leaving too many kids behind despite the slogans.

Our conscience can’t rest so long as 37 million Americans are poor and forgotten by their leaders in Washington and by the media elites. We need to heed the biblical call to care for “the least of these” and lift the poor out of despair. That’s why I’ve been fighting to expand the Earned Income Tax Credit and the minimum wage. If you’re working forty hours a week, you shouldn’t be living in poverty. But we also know that government initiatives are not enough. Each of us in our own lives needs to do what we can to help the poor. And until we do, our conscience cannot rest.

Our conscience cannot rest so long as nearly 45 million Americans don’t have health insurance and the millions more who do are going bankrupt trying to pay for it. I have made a solemn pledge that I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family’s premiums by up to $2500 a year. That’s not simply a matter of policy or ideology – it’s a moral commitment.

…But we also know our conscience cannot rest so long as the war goes on in Iraq. It’s a war I’m proud I opposed from the start – a war that should never have been authorized and never been waged. I have a plan that would have already begun redeploying our troops with the goal of bringing all our combat brigades home by March 31st of next year. The President vetoed a similar plan, but he doesn’t have the last word, and we’re going to keep at it, until we bring this war to an end. Because the Iraq war is not just a security problem, it’s a moral problem.

    And there’s another issue we must confront as well. Today there are 12 million undocumented immigrants in America, most of them working in our communities, attending our churches, and contributing to our country. Now, as children of God, we believe in the worth and dignity of every human being; it doesn’t matter where that person came from or what documents they have. We believe that everyone, everywhere should be loved, and given the chance to work, and raise a family. But as Americans, we also know that this is a nation of laws, and we cannot have those laws broken when more than 2,000 people cross our borders illegally every day. We cannot ignore that we have a right and a duty to protect our borders. And we cannot ignore the very real concerns of Americans who are not worried about illegal immigration because they are racist or xenophobic, but because they fear it will result in lower wages when they’re already struggling to raise their families. And so this will be a difficult debate next week. Consensus and compromise will not come easy. Last time we took up immigration reform, it failed. But we cannot walk away this time. Our conscience cannot rest until we not only secure our borders, but give the 12 million undocumented immigrants in this country a chance to earn their citizenship by paying a fine and waiting in line behind all those who came here legally.

    We will all have to make concessions to achieve this. That’s what compromise is about. But at the end of the day, we cannot walk away – not for the sake of passing a bill, but so that we can finally address the real concerns of Americans and the persistent hopes of all those brothers and sisters who want nothing more than their own chance at our common dream.

    When we place this excerpt from Obama’s pre-written speech side by side with Reverend Crabtree’s statement, we must come to the following conclusion: Barack Obama knew in advance that his speech would violate the rules to which he had agreed, but he chose to do it anyway.

    _______  posted on  2008-03-19   18:27:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


    #70. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

    New Black Panther Party endorses Obama

    Soul on nice.


    I've already said too much.

    MUDDOG  posted on  2008-03-19   19:22:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


    #71. To: MUDDOG (#70)

    X

    Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-03-19   19:25:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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