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Title: Obama's Speech Wasn't About Race. It Was About Leadership (PHILIP WEISS)
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URL Source: http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/03/obamas-speech-1.html
Published: Mar 19, 2008
Author: Philip Weiss
Post Date: 2008-03-19 15:52:03 by aristeides
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Obama's Speech Wasn't About Race. It Was About Leadership Admit it: This has been the most magnificent campaign of our lives. Entertaining, uplifting, full of surprise and great characters. Who will ever forget Mike Huckabee or Ron Paul. And today it outdid itself. Obama's speech on race was stunning. I can't be the only sophisticated person who was blown away. I thought I was used to his style, to the quality of his thought. I thought he was going to be careful. I was amazed. What he did was call us to the better angels of our nature. He told us that blacks are angry for a reason. He said that racism has been persistent and disabling. He said that blacks have been viciously discriminated against. And he said this in a way that was not divisive. This is true leadership. Rather than pandering to the racists out there, as Hillary has been doing, he spoke openly of a deep divide in American society and then called on American idealism to deal with it. He embarrassed the racists for the backwardness of their vision. This guy is truly historic. I want him to be my president. And I can't wait for his speech--one day, not so long from now--on Israel/Palestine. The day that he honestly addresses Palestinian suffering and doesn't scare Jews, but brings us together. And forward.
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#25. To: Sam Houston (#16)
I don't think Pat Buchanan was just joking when he said that McCain would make Cheney look like Gandhi.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
If your comment "Particularly the humble ones" was not meant to be a rebuke to me for having the nerve to call myself "very intelligent" (which I did not do,) I do not understand what its point was. Forgive me for assuming you had a point to make.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Exactly! Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul were forced to disown "racist" groups on national television. The tenuous connection ruined both of their campaigns. Will Obama receive the same treatment in the media? If not, I would question the integrity and agenda of the media.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
So you think that the black Marxists will do a better job than the white Marxists, too?
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Just when those old feelings of nausea were beginning to dissipate too.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Forgive me for assuming you had a point to make. You're forgiven. This open dialog thing is going great so far!
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
I am bitter that my candidates have been ruined by guilt by association. Can you tell? LOL. I'll be damned if guilt by association doesn't ruin everyone's favorite globalist Marxist!
Rather than debate guilt by association, I think Obama missed the opportunity to discuss 9/11, Blowback, and demanding Pastor Wright be allowed to speak for himself. That would open up a gateway to discuss where the crackpot line falls, and who decides what is or is not kooky. Let then Obama and the other candidates come forward to present their own opinions. Obama danced through 3 of 4 issues yesterday, to open up a dialog on race. As a leader, he had time to do more of it.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Rather than debate guilt by association, I think Obama missed the opportunity to discuss 9/11, Blowback, and demanding Pastor Wright be allowed to speak for himself. Well, I think he learned watching Ron Paul take on these issue honestly where the media will put the crackpot line, and he doesn't want to cross it - if he even thinks about "blowback" and whatnot. I don't know if he does. I'd feel much better about his candidacy if I thought that he did. Perhaps he should go 3rd party then.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
I can respect that position.
I can respect that position. I respect that position. With it goes the realization that such is being done for the benefit of Clinton in an organized fashion.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
You dont know that. You are just hoping and guessing.
Why not? I understand that true reform can not be accomplished from within. I've already seen that Obama has comprimised his principles for political gain. Why should he have to? Or perhaps it is, we just don't know who Obama really is, and what he stands for. Gramma overboard! Pastor overboard! Backed off from troop withdrawal. Global taxation! Socialized healthcare. And now, we are too stupid to understand the level at which he speaks? Uhhhhhhhhhh. Let him be himself, run as the person he is. If his support is so large, leaving the party behind should not be a concern.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
Hey VRC...you are ok, after all. I'm putting you on my Christmas card list this year. Of course I haven't sent any out in 10 years. But you are ok.
4 is a mystery. But it's interesting to see people flocking to another Establishment puppet because he's "different." I wish them luck, but it's a vain hope that anything better will come out of this CFR member than the other two.
You're counting on Obama, Farrakhan, Jesse J, Sharpton, and the Black Panthers to save America? Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. And you were guessing when Ron Paul was labeled a racist?
Calypso Louis Certified
It brings no pleasure to watch the party bosses laugh like hell at this distraction. Whoever of the presumtive 3 win, we lose. I am very tired of watching this sort of thing play out under the color of division. Infiltrators, frauds, liars and operatives. Oh my............
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
You are generous our lives.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
You know, Señator Juan McQuisling could save you from these assorted Communist-Racists. You know you want to vote for the "R", even if you know he's (R) a she (D).
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I think the transcript is posted here.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
I think I understand what you mean. I know they have reasons.
I'm certain they do too.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I am an admitted racist, so I know one when I see one.
He said his pastor was nuts but he wasn't going to disown him because the nutty shit he says in some sermons isn't ALL there is to him. He also said his grandmother loved him more than anyone in the world, but still said some things he disagreed with vehemently. That ain't throwing them overboard, that's speaking to us like we're intelligent enough to understand that sometimes people we love do stupid shit, and it doesn't change the fact that we love them. I figure it's all politics. You don't see Hillary and Bill trotting out their idiot brothers.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
That's nothing to be proud of...we ARE in the 21st century, why not join at least the 20th century?
sodi... You have not a clue concerning that "admission". If you were a long time regular here you would understand it.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestAu contraire (and may you pardon my French). McInsane will make sure America's exit from the world stage will be a thermonuclear Götterdämmerung, taking the entire planet down with us.
#26. To: Peppa (#24)
#27. To: ghostdogtxn (#20)
No, I was counting on Ron Paul, David Duke, the Ku Klux Klan and Stormfront. Obama, Farrakhan, Jackson, Sharpton and the Black Panthers were my second choice.
#28. To: aristeides (#22)
#29. To: aristeides (#21)
That's a perfect example of what ghostdogtxn was talking about.
#30. To: robin (#23)
#31. To: ghostdogtxn (#30)
#32. To: Vitamin Z (#27)
#33. To: aristeides (#26)
If your comment "Particularly the humble ones" was not meant to be a rebuke to me for having the nerve to call myself "very intelligent" (which I did not do,) I do not understand what its point was.
#34. To: ghostdogtxn (#32)
Not only is guilt by association bullshit that you shouldn't buy into, but at the least check facts before a charge is made...
#35. To: ghostdogtxn (#32)
#36. To: robin (#31)
#37. To: Vitamin Z (#34)
#38. To: Peppa (#35)
#39. To: ghostdogtxn (#38)
To: Peppa
#40. To: ghostdogtxn (#37)
So am I. I have no interest in seeing it done to anyone else.
#41. To: Vitamin Z, ghostdogtxn (#40)
So am I. I have no interest in seeing it done to anyone else.
#42. To: Peppa (#39)
#43. To: Vitamin Z (#40)
#44. To: ghostdogtxn (#43)
Especially since I suspect that "Black Panther endorsement" was put on Obama's website by someone who meant him no good.
#45. To: ghostdogtxn (#42)
Why go third party when you are the frontrunner in one of the major 2?
#46. To: Cynicom (#44)
#47. To: Peppa (#45)
#48. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#10)
#49. To: Peppa (#45)
Uhhhhhhhhhh.
#50. To: Vitamin Z (#18)
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Lord Acton
#51. To: Cynicom (#44)
You dont know that. You are just hoping and guessing.
#52. To: buckeye (#49)
Reverend Wright Approved
#53. To: _______ (#47)
#54. To: buckeye (#49)
#55. To: Cynicom (#44)
#56. To: Peppa (#53)
#57. To: Peppa (#45)
#58. To: ghostdogtxn (#57)
Gramma overboard! Pastor overboard! I must have missed that part of the speech.
#59. To: Peppa (#54)
You are generous our lives.
#60. To: buckeye (#59)
You are generous our lives. I think I understand what you mean. I know they have reasons.
#61. To: Peppa (#58)
#62. To: Sodie Pop (#51)
#63. To: ghostdogtxn (#61)
I know. I think I posted it.
#64. To: Cynicom (#62)
I am an admitted racist,
#65. To: Sodie Pop (#64)
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