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Title: Obama's Speech Wasn't About Race. It Was About Leadership (PHILIP WEISS)
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URL Source: http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/03/obamas-speech-1.html
Published: Mar 19, 2008
Author: Philip Weiss
Post Date: 2008-03-19 15:52:03 by aristeides
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Views: 1073
Comments: 76
Obama's Speech Wasn't About Race. It Was About Leadership Admit it: This has been the most magnificent campaign of our lives. Entertaining, uplifting, full of surprise and great characters. Who will ever forget Mike Huckabee or Ron Paul. And today it outdid itself. Obama's speech on race was stunning. I can't be the only sophisticated person who was blown away. I thought I was used to his style, to the quality of his thought. I thought he was going to be careful. I was amazed. What he did was call us to the better angels of our nature. He told us that blacks are angry for a reason. He said that racism has been persistent and disabling. He said that blacks have been viciously discriminated against. And he said this in a way that was not divisive. This is true leadership. Rather than pandering to the racists out there, as Hillary has been doing, he spoke openly of a deep divide in American society and then called on American idealism to deal with it. He embarrassed the racists for the backwardness of their vision. This guy is truly historic. I want him to be my president. And I can't wait for his speech--one day, not so long from now--on Israel/Palestine. The day that he honestly addresses Palestinian suffering and doesn't scare Jews, but brings us together. And forward.
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#36. To: robin (#31)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Rather than debate guilt by association, I think Obama missed the opportunity to discuss 9/11, Blowback, and demanding Pastor Wright be allowed to speak for himself. Well, I think he learned watching Ron Paul take on these issue honestly where the media will put the crackpot line, and he doesn't want to cross it - if he even thinks about "blowback" and whatnot. I don't know if he does. I'd feel much better about his candidacy if I thought that he did. Perhaps he should go 3rd party then.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
I can respect that position.
I can respect that position. I respect that position. With it goes the realization that such is being done for the benefit of Clinton in an organized fashion.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
You dont know that. You are just hoping and guessing.
Why not? I understand that true reform can not be accomplished from within. I've already seen that Obama has comprimised his principles for political gain. Why should he have to? Or perhaps it is, we just don't know who Obama really is, and what he stands for. Gramma overboard! Pastor overboard! Backed off from troop withdrawal. Global taxation! Socialized healthcare. And now, we are too stupid to understand the level at which he speaks? Uhhhhhhhhhh. Let him be himself, run as the person he is. If his support is so large, leaving the party behind should not be a concern.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
Hey VRC...you are ok, after all. I'm putting you on my Christmas card list this year. Of course I haven't sent any out in 10 years. But you are ok.
4 is a mystery. But it's interesting to see people flocking to another Establishment puppet because he's "different." I wish them luck, but it's a vain hope that anything better will come out of this CFR member than the other two.
You're counting on Obama, Farrakhan, Jesse J, Sharpton, and the Black Panthers to save America? Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. And you were guessing when Ron Paul was labeled a racist?
Calypso Louis Certified
It brings no pleasure to watch the party bosses laugh like hell at this distraction. Whoever of the presumtive 3 win, we lose. I am very tired of watching this sort of thing play out under the color of division. Infiltrators, frauds, liars and operatives. Oh my............
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
You are generous our lives.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
You know, Señator Juan McQuisling could save you from these assorted Communist-Racists. You know you want to vote for the "R", even if you know he's (R) a she (D).
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I think the transcript is posted here.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
I think I understand what you mean. I know they have reasons.
I'm certain they do too.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I am an admitted racist, so I know one when I see one.
He said his pastor was nuts but he wasn't going to disown him because the nutty shit he says in some sermons isn't ALL there is to him. He also said his grandmother loved him more than anyone in the world, but still said some things he disagreed with vehemently. That ain't throwing them overboard, that's speaking to us like we're intelligent enough to understand that sometimes people we love do stupid shit, and it doesn't change the fact that we love them. I figure it's all politics. You don't see Hillary and Bill trotting out their idiot brothers.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
That's nothing to be proud of...we ARE in the 21st century, why not join at least the 20th century?
sodi... You have not a clue concerning that "admission". If you were a long time regular here you would understand it.
Alas for them, you are probably right.
Question Diversity
Up your ass you shriveled up old piece of shit. I have been here and at other sites with the same people longer than your sorry fucking puss. You don't have a "clue" as to what the human race is you sorry ass piece of wasted fuck. Eat shit and die ass hole. Now do you want to know how I really feel about your simple little life? Well don't hold your breath, you out of date slug, because I won't waste my time telling you.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Sodie... Now that you have showed us your entire depth of the spoken English language, is there anything else you care to add? You might try an unabridged dictionary, they have some really bad words that you might not have learned in the third grade. Besides your language disparity, you have displayed for all to see your total lack of social upbringing, having no social manners at all. As long as you were never taught such, it would seem that you should have picked up something on your own, but it appears you failed at that also. If it helps you vent your bilious hatred, why not just go outdoors and let it all out, why come here with decent people to disgorge your vileness?
An admitted racist who has also admitted that he is going to vote for Hillary. An admitted racist who claims to be vehemently opposed to McCain, but who is intelligent enough to know that voting for Hillary in the primary is likely to help McCain win in November. An admitted racist whose racism is so strong that it apparently overwhelms his common sense.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I see you've gotten the talking points. Do you watch Fox News?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Those statements are extraordinarily false. They are no doubt Faux Newz talking points.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
Again you assume others do my thinking for me. I listened to the speach myself and went there immediately. Shabby treatment of gramma. In contrast to the hate speech heard in the church. As for the Pastor, I did my reasearch on him and wondered why obama held on to him for a year past his shelf date. That looked like a political move to me to hold on to those that put some sort of faith in Obama and the message they expected him to bring through the advance of his campaign. When the Pastor was tossed, and I beleve he would not have been if the tapes had not surfaced, it was political pastor overboard. Got it? Now Pope Ari, you can slip back in your chair and relax. You appear to be far more inclined to jump to conclusions about others than I am. Let me also say, the conversation about race has been going on every day for decades. Only a couple of days ago, whites were invited to join it. So, here we are. Let's take full advantage of the window before the PTB shut it down again. I believe though, it would be fair to include everyone into the race discussion. Everyone. If one is to be honest about the look of 21st century America, all must invest in the conversation to buy into the solution. Or we can just fire Imus again and move on. I would sign off with my Indian name if you would like to poke at me more. edit: While we have this long needed conversation and invite all to the table, remember the fight is over crumbs. Look around Ari, the economy is melting. What will be left to redistribute will result in chaos, unless we all come together to see who is pulling the strings and decide to work together to save ourselves, or let the greedy bastards win, again, at our expense. No one is really ready for the honesty of the entire discussion. Least of all, those that have the most to lose if a single standard of fairness is applied.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
I have others if you don't like this one.... ;)
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
So you came to the same thoughts Fox News has been spouting all on your own? Point remains, you and they have a lot in common.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
You would of course think so as you have lost the argument.
"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942
#37. To: Vitamin Z (#34)
#38. To: Peppa (#35)
#39. To: ghostdogtxn (#38)
To: Peppa
#40. To: ghostdogtxn (#37)
So am I. I have no interest in seeing it done to anyone else.
#41. To: Vitamin Z, ghostdogtxn (#40)
So am I. I have no interest in seeing it done to anyone else.
#42. To: Peppa (#39)
#43. To: Vitamin Z (#40)
#44. To: ghostdogtxn (#43)
Especially since I suspect that "Black Panther endorsement" was put on Obama's website by someone who meant him no good.
#45. To: ghostdogtxn (#42)
Why go third party when you are the frontrunner in one of the major 2?
#46. To: Cynicom (#44)
#47. To: Peppa (#45)
#48. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#10)
#49. To: Peppa (#45)
Uhhhhhhhhhh.
#50. To: Vitamin Z (#18)
(Edited)
Lord Acton
#51. To: Cynicom (#44)
You dont know that. You are just hoping and guessing.
#52. To: buckeye (#49)
Reverend Wright Approved
#53. To: _______ (#47)
#54. To: buckeye (#49)
#55. To: Cynicom (#44)
#56. To: Peppa (#53)
#57. To: Peppa (#45)
#58. To: ghostdogtxn (#57)
Gramma overboard! Pastor overboard! I must have missed that part of the speech.
#59. To: Peppa (#54)
You are generous our lives.
#60. To: buckeye (#59)
You are generous our lives. I think I understand what you mean. I know they have reasons.
#61. To: Peppa (#58)
#62. To: Sodie Pop (#51)
#63. To: ghostdogtxn (#61)
I know. I think I posted it.
#64. To: Cynicom (#62)
I am an admitted racist,
#65. To: Sodie Pop (#64)
#66. To: aristeides (#4)
I think Weiss is in a good position to know what the feelings of Jews, at least in this country, are.
#67. To: Cynicom (#65)
If you were a long time regular here you would understand it.
#68. To: Peppa (#63)
#69. To: Sodie Pop (#67)
#70. To: Cynicom (#62)
I am an admitted racist
#71. To: Peppa (#45)
(Edited)
Gramma overboard! Pastor overboard!
#72. To: aristeides (#71)
Gramma overboard! Pastor overboard!
#73. To: aristeides (#71)
(Edited)
#74. To: ghostdogtxn (#68)
I figure it's all politics. That's a good default position.
#75. To: Peppa (#73)
#76. To: aristeides (#75)
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