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Title: Reviews Say Speech Sucked: Badeye Cops to it and then Spins Like a Top.
Source: LP
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=100278
Published: Jun 29, 2005
Author: badeye
Post Date: 2005-06-29 11:03:29 by crack monkey
Keywords: Reviews, Sucked:, Speech
Views: 260
Comments: 29

I've been reading the reviews this morning and there seems to be a universal agreement that Bush's speech last night sucked mongo donkey weenie. Badeye, in his own special way, seems to agree, i.e., he says that snap polls arn't to be trusted, but that some magical event will make things better next week. Or better still, maybe people will forget about the speech by next Tuesday.

I'm glad to see we're all on the same page here. Soon we'll all be holding hands and singing.

Here's the link: A Nose Up Bush's Ass

And here's a repeat of the quote:

3. To: Ghost of Quantrill (#2)

excellent speech

I thought the President got the point across to the American people last night.

Figure we will know the impact long about next Tuesday or so, giving time for word to spread, and a bit of thoughtful consideration.

Snap polls won't get it.

Badeye posted on 2005-06-29 09:12:16 ET Reply Trace

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#11. To: crack monkey (#0)

I thought the President got the point across to the American people last night.

I agree with Badeye. I thought he did wonderfully.. (Well, for Dubya anyway.. These things ARE relative) IMO, he got his "message" across in spades.

The problem I saw was the message itself. It's essentially the same message (although revised slightly, to take the emphasis off WMD's) that he's been spouting since the beginning.

Iraq is a threat, fight them there or in our streets, spreading freedom/nation building, the Iraqui's are showing progress, stay the course, be afraid, Remember 9/11!

It's the same thing.. As one very astute 4UM poster commented to me last night.. these are all "Scrabble" speeches. You just take the same words & phrases, mix them up, and package them as a different speech entirely.

That being the case, I don't see how it will make much of a difference in his approval or approval for the war.

If it's all the same material, the same "message" and the same speech. How CAN it help?

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-06-29   12:54:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

One cannot say Iraq is a threat and then at the same time say we must train Iraqis militarily (which wouldn't even be necessary had the "coalition" not disbanded the Iraqi army two years ago).

If Iraqis in particular and Arabs in general are some sort of permanent threat, you would want to disarm them of even the most innocuous weapons.

There is an incredible amount of cognitive dissonance in his entire message, but fortunately for him his "base" is totally lacking in critical thinking skills. All of their actions in life are prompted by their reptilian brains.

What he is really desperately hoping for is the creation of a viable puppet army beholden and loyal to its Zionist masters. And I just don't see that happening in our lifetimes.

Sam Houston  posted on  2005-06-29   13:39:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

One cannot say Iraq is a threat and then at the same time say we must train Iraqis militarily..

No, no.. The claim is that the horrible terrorists are the threat.

Not common Iraqui's

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-06-29   13:42:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It reminds me a lot of Clinton after Waco labeling all "patriots" and "right-wing talk show hosts" as enemies of the state.

Bush may not mean to label ordinary Iraqis as "terrorists" but enough of them have been "collaterally damaged" by now that that is no doubt how ordinary Iraqis see it. You hardly ever see the U.S. soldiers mingle with the "ordinary Iraqis" anymore, because both sides know either could go off at any time and that's because of all the innocent blood that has been shed.

Of course, no soldier of an invasion or occupation force is technically "innocent" but I think they do instinctively know deep down inside that they shouldn't still have to be occupying that $hithole more than two years after it started. So that's where a lot of the trigger-happiness comes from. They'd rather waste 100 Iraqi women and children than have even one of their buddies bite the big one, particularly since the entire war was sold on false premises and Big Lie rhetoric.

Sam Houston  posted on  2005-06-29   13:50:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#21. To: Sam Houston, JHoffa_ (#18)

Bush may not mean to label ordinary Iraqis as "terrorists" but enough of them have been "collaterally damaged" by now that that is no doubt how ordinary Iraqis see it.

you're absolutely right. how many times have you seen or read or heard "kill all the ragheads,", "all the GD iraqis are our enemy," and "nuke the whole damn country then let god sort them out?"

christine  posted on  2005-06-29 14:29:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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