4um: Obama: Trust Me to End the War

FAYETTEVILLE, N.C. (AP) — Barack Obama suggested Wednesday that Hillary Rodham Clinton could not be trusted to end the Iraq war because she only started opposing it when she began her bid for president.

In a speech not far from North Carolina's Fort Bragg military base, the Democratic presidential hopeful told military families and local officials that the war has emboldened al-Qaida, the Taliban, Iran and North Korea.

"Ask yourself," Obama told the crowd, "Who do you trust to end a war: someone who opposed the war from the beginning, or someone who started opposing it when they started preparing a run for president?"

Obama used the five-year anniversary of the Iraq invasion to again cast himself as the only true anti-war candidate, one who openly opposed the invasion as a state lawmaker. He renewed criticism of Clinton for voting to authorize the use of force against Iraq.

Clinton campaign spokesman Phil Singer responded: "The reality is that Senator Obama took practically no action to end the war until he started his White House run while Senator Clinton has been a consistent critic of Iraq for many years."

Obama also teased likely Republican nominee John McCain for a foreign policy gaffe Tuesday in which McCain, touring the Middle East, said several times that Iran was training al-Qaida in Iraq. Iran is a predominantly Shiite Muslim country and has been at pains to close its borders to al-Qaida fighters of the rival Sunni sect. After another senator on the trip, Joe Lieberman, an independent from Connecticut, whispered in his ear, McCain corrected himself to say Iran was training Shiite militants.

"Maybe that is why he voted to go to war with a country that had no al-Qaida ties," Obama said to laughter and applause. "Maybe that is why he completely fails to understand that the war in Iraq has done more to embolden America's enemies than any strategic choice that we have made in decades."

In the days before she won primaries in Texas and Ohio, Clinton argued that she was better prepared to be commander in chief and broadcast a television ad that asked who could handle a middle-of-the-night crisis. Obama countered that Clinton had bungled her crisis moment when she voted to authorize military force to oust Saddam Hussein.

"What we need in our next commander in chief is not a stubborn refusal to acknowledge reality or empty rhetoric about 3 a.m. phone calls," he said. "What we need is a pragmatic strategy that focuses on fighting our real enemies, rebuilding alliances and renewing our engagement with the world's people."

He said Clinton and McCain talk tough on national security yet make decisions that leave the country less secure.

"This is why the judgment that matters most on Iraq — and on any decision to deploy military force — is the judgment made first," Obama said.

Special forces from Fort Bragg were among the first soldiers in Iraq during the 2003 invasion and its paratroopers led last year's troop increase. President Bush visited the base to deliver his 2005 Independence Day speech, in which he warned that setting a timetable to withdraw from Iraq would only embolden terrorists.

"These are the mistaken and misleading arguments we hear from those who have failed to demonstrate how the war in Iraq has made us safer," Obama said.

Mark Salter, a senior adviser to McCain, responded: "John McCain wants American forces to come home when our clear and serious interests at stake in Iraq, which nearly 4,000 Americans have given their lives to secure, are truly safe, when al-Qaida is defeated; Iran's influence is contained, and the potential for a truly cataclysmic civil war in Iraq is remote. That, I think, is what is called 'making us safer.'"

Obama also defended his contention that the United States should act on intelligence about top terrorist targets in Pakistan even if President Pervez Musharraf refuses — a statement last year that drew criticism from Republicans.

"We have a security gap when candidates say they will follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell, but refuse to follow him where he actually goes," Obama said, referring to McCain's vow to chase down bin Laden.

North Carolina holds its primary May 6. Obama traveled to Charlotte on Wednesday evening for a town-hall meeting and a fundraiser.

Given that we KNOW Hillary and McCain will be disasters, I'm willing to take a chance on the new guy.

Yes. A Democrat will "save us". Riiiggghhhtt. It's your vote and you have to do what you think is best. IMHO, one cannot become a United States Senator or successful presidential candidate without being a bought and paid for member of the two party fraud and their masters. The media will not allow a non-vetted member to get anywhere. As evidence, I present the presidential campaigns of Paul and Kucinich.

Mark my words, regardless of who wins the presidency, very little will change. The government will continue to grow at an unprecedented rate and our freedoms and liberties will decrease proportionally with that growth. Foreign policy in the Middle East will not change, and it is beganning to appear that the political masters may be taking an increasing interest in expoliting the resources of Africa. We will continue to be the bully of the world and use the tension this creates to whip up nationalistic feelings among the rubes of both parties, both in order to take attention away from the economy and the loss of liberties and to boost cannon-fodder numbers.

Having said that, I'm voting for whomever the Libertarian or Constitution Party candidate is. While I believe that the result of the election has already been determined, I'll at least cast my vote in opposition to the two party fraud. When it's tinme for me to become worm dirt, I'll at least know that I had nothing to do with destroying the country.

Both Obama and Ron Paul were against the war before it started and have said they would bring home our troops. Both Obama and Ron Paul have spoken out against the use of torture. Both Obama and Ron Paul said they would end Gitmo. Both Obama and Ron Paul have stated they would restore habeas corpus.

Ron Paul has a long history that we can confirm he means these things. The new guy doesn't. That's the gamble.

Have you seen the list of former presidents who belonged to CFR? Everyone must play the game at least a little.

Obama is a central planning collectivist who wants to use the power of government to take even more of my money in order to redistribute it to everyone He and his people think deserve it more than me and my own family. He's a crusader, which in and of itself is fine, except when he is in a position to force me to be a part of his crusade by stealing my money at gunpoint.

As I said, you have to do what you think is right, but I'm not going to vote for this POS just because he's against the war. He is everthing I have stood against my whole adult life. I haven't voted for a Republican since 1984 because I believed them to be central planning collectivists. I sure as hell won't back this yahoo just because he's against the war.

And as if a member of the CFR is going to get elected, then go rogue and act independently. As long as there is a drop of oil in Iraq, as long as Iran is Israel's enemy, American troops will be in Iraq. This is the complete disconnect I see on the forum. People who have spent years reading and posting about the enemy within, suddenly think the system that is owned and controlled by the elite, is theirs to tap into. There must be something in the water.

It seems everyone is grasping for some kind of hope. I thought my hope had died years ago, then came Dr. Paul. Now that he has fizzled out, I'm right back to where I was. Oh well. What can you do but keep on keeping on.

I don't know anything about a unity onion but I know that the American people want to be tax/regulation slaves to the federal, state and local governments and are working hard to make it come to pass. Freedom and liberty are too hard for them because it entails having to take responsibility for, and living with, the consequences of their decisions and actions, be they good or bad.

Interesting, and this is only one State. . . . . the speaker of the House's state!

If this doesn't open your eyes, nothing will . . . .



From the L.A. Times
1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County ( L.A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.
10. In L.A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.
(There are 10.2 million people in L.A. County ).
(All of the above are from the Los Angeles Times)

Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States ' annual population growth (and over 90% of California , Florida , and New York )   results from immigration.    29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

We are a bunch of fools for letting this continue.

WHY CAN'T WE SEND THEM HOME
HOW CAN YOU HELP? Send copies of this letter to at least two other people .. 100 would be even better.

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