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Title: Clintons push a Hillary/Obama ticket (would anyone here pull the plunger for this team?)
Source: reuters
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0940302520080310
Published: Mar 20, 2008
Author: Thomas Ferraro
Post Date: 2008-03-20 11:04:10 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 171
Comments: 12

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Hillary and Bill Clinton are again teaming up on Barack Obama -- this time saying the first-term U.S. lawmaker, whom they have derided as inexperienced, would be a strong running mate on a Democratic presidential ticket headed by the former first lady.

In talking up a joint ticket, the Clintons may be seeking the upper hand, attempting to put her in consideration for the top of the ticket when she so far has failed to win the votes necessary to assure that she would face Republican presidential candidate John McCain in the November election.

The maneuver may also be aimed at countering an image in voters' minds of Obama as presidential material and at helping restore an aura of inevitability as the party's nominee that Clinton had early in the campaign but lost.

"The Clintons are in a difficult position," said Dennis Goldford, a political science professor at Drake University in Iowa, who has tracked the presidential race.

"If she wins the Democratic presidential nomination, she would need Obama's supporters. But she needs to be careful. If this talk of him on the ticket is seen as a cynical maneuver, it could backfire and hurt her," Goldford said.

Former Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota, an Obama backer, mocked the idea.

"It may be the first time in history that the person who is running number two would offer the person running number one the number two position," Daschle told "Meet the Press."

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Obama better take his position in the back of the bus NOW, where at least he will ride for free. If he lets his personal ambitions over rule reality he will be left on the street corner with a tin cup.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-20   11:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

If this talk of him on the ticket is seen as a cynical maneuver, it could backfire and hurt her," Goldford said.

That's because it is cynical.

If TPTB cannot get the effect they want with manipulating the public, then it's: "If you cant beat them, join them", just so Hitlery is the top dog.

------They may look intimidating, by design, but they aren't bulletproof. -------

PSUSA  posted on  2008-03-20   11:38:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Wolf Blitzer started pushing this idea of a Clinton/Obama "dream ticket" on CNN every chance he gets a couple of months ago. Even at that time, he and his handlers saw that it was the only way Hillary could get the presidential nomination.

However, Hillary and her campaign have burned so many bridges at this point that I think this "dream ticket" is impossible as a matter of practical politics.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-20   11:42:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#1)

Obama better take his position in the back of the bus NOW,

By the time the Clintoons are done with hie ebony hiney, he'll be clinging to the bumper of the bus, never mind riding in it. Was that racist?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-03-20   11:48:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: aristeides, PSUSA, all (#3)

I can see him taking the v/p slot. He can't survive this blood bath. The question is, who here would vote for that ticket?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-03-20   11:51:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-20   11:55:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-20   11:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

In talking up a joint ticket, the Clintons may be seeking the upper hand, attempting to put her in consideration for the top of the ticket when she so far has failed to win the votes necessary to assure that she would face Republican presidential candidate John McCain in the November election.

Given she's behind, it's either that or she's just trying to politically obligate Obama to choose her as his VP candidate, but I don't think Obama is stupid enough to choose her as VP.

As if Hillary isn't embarrassing enough as it is.

Obama will win the D nomination and choose someone else. Hillary will then go crying into oblivion. That's my prediction.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-03-20   12:48:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Pinguinite (#8)

Obama will win the D nomination and choose someone else. Hillary will then go crying into oblivion. That's my prediction.

I can't see their fixation with power allowing them to vanish from the political stage. I think the Obama boat hasn't begun to rock yet.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-03-20   13:20:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#5)

The question is, who here would vote for that ticket?

No one that I know.

Lod  posted on  2008-03-20   14:47:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#1)

Cyni -

Running number two on a Clinton ticket is like being a dog someone forgot is tied up to the bumper of a car on the move and heading for the highway.

You would be forgotten about and nobody in Clinton's sphere of ugliness of ego cares about your future.

He is better off neither offering or accepting anything to do with the Clintons when it comes to being on the Democratic ticket.


Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggy, till you find a large rock.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-03-20   14:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ferret Mike (#11)

He is better off neither offering or accepting anything to do with the Clintons when it comes to being on the Democratic ticket.

True...

I do not see him forgoing his political career however. If he persists in pushing down to the wire he risks all for nothing. A Clinton/Obama ticket is a sure winner with ease. The two of them have much to gain and a lot to lose if fractured and Clinton takes on some unknown.

People in the background may prefer Obama with reason but also understand that if Hillary wins she will take out the long knives for those that opposed. Obama cannot do that.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-20   15:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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