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Title: Darkness at Full Moon?
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URL Source: http://www.neverthirsty.org/pp/hist ... quotesaboutjesus/darkness.html
Published: Mar 20, 2008
Author: Like The Master Ministries
Post Date: 2008-03-20 14:39:05 by AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt
Keywords: Crucifixion, Miracles, Heavenly Signs
Views: 376
Comments: 3

Thallus' Statement To Be Explored

"For the Hebrews celebrate the passover on the 14th day according to the moon . . . but an eclipse of the sun takes place only when the moon comes under the sun." - Julius Africanus, THE EXTANT FRAGMENTS OF THE FIVE BOOKS OF THE CHRONOGRAPHY OF JULIUS AFRICANUS

Consideration

If we look for natural events - a solar eclipse - to explain the darkness that occurred during the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, we must explain away the existence of the full moon. Our first piece of information is found in John 19:14-16 where we are told that Jesus died on a Friday just before the Passover. This is important because the Jews schedule the Passover during a full moon. A full moon occurs when the moon is on the "back side" of the earth as shown in the figure below (graphic was modified from one created by Ian Cameron Smith, clint@hermit.org). That is, the earth is between the sun and the moon. When this happens, the moon is referred to as a new moon.

Astronomical records show that no solar eclipse occurred anywhere near the city of Jerusalem during the years of A.D. 30-33. Solar Eclipse. A solar eclipse can only occur when the moon passes between the sun and the earth. When the moon passes between the sun and the earth, the sun's rays are blocked from shining on the earth and consequently part of the earth is darkened. Therefore, a solar eclipse cannot occur during a full moon.

Conclusion
No eclipse was possible due to the positions of the sun and moon during the passover. Therefore, the darkness that occurred over the face of the earth is not explainable by natural causes. It was a supernatural event! Consider the following:
1) The Jewish Passover occurs during the full moon.
2) Full moon occurs when the moon is behind the earth.
3) This means a supernatural darkness occurred over the earth.
4) The darkness occurred during Christ's death.
5) The universe responded to the Creator's death.

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Conclusion
No eclipse was possible due to the positions of the sun and moon during the passover. Therefore, the darkness that occurred over the face of the earth is not explainable by natural causes.

Not explainable by known natural causes. But it's a potential error to conclude that, because we don't understand how something happened, it must therefore be supernatural.

Shine a flashlight at primitive tribesmen, and they may well conclude that the light is supernatural because they too cannot determine a natural reason for it. But their lack of knowledge does not make the flashlight supernatural.

By the same token, we can't conclude the darkness was supernatural just because we don't understand it's cause. Maybe it was supernatural, but until that can be proven, it will logically remain a mystery between supernatural and simply something we don't understand right now.

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Shine a flashlight at primitive tribesmen, and they may well conclude that the light is supernatural because they too cannot determine a natural reason for it. But their lack of knowledge does not make the flashlight supernatural.

Their lack of knowledge does not make the flashlight supernatural, because the light can be explained by others with more knowledge.

But we are talking about a full moon that went dark for no reason that can be explained away, even by the geniuses who supposedly put a man ON the moon, and who would explain it away, if they could:

http://www.fixedearth.com/nasas_hanky-panky.htm

http://www.fixedearth.com/talmud.html

Maybe the earthquake threw up such a dust storm, they couldn't see the moon through it:

Mat 27:54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

God knows they have been trying to explain it all away for 2,000 years:

Mat 27:1 ¶ When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death:

Mat 27:2 And when they had bound him, they led [him] away, and delivered him to Pontius Pilate the governor.....

[ http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Act/3/13.html / the greater sin: http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn019.html#11 ]

Mat 27:62 ¶ Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate,

Mat 27:63 Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.

Mat 27:64 — Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first.....

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat027.html#64

Mat 28:1 ¶ In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first [day] of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

Mat 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.......

Mat 28:10 Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.

Mat 28:11 ¶ Now when they were going, behold, some of the watch came into the city, and shewed unto the chief priests all the things that were done.

Mat 28:12 And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the soldiers,

Mat 28:13 Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him [away] while we slept.

Mat 28:14 And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you.

Mat 28:15 So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.

[ Judaism vs Christianity: The War The Lamb Wins / The Talmud: The Reason Why This “War” Must Come www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=62510 ]

It's possible, maybe probable nothing will happen Passover 2008....but if I see the full moon turn black for no reason ....I'll probably die of a heart attack on the spot....only to be revived shortly :)

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