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Title: Author challenges claim that Jesus lived in Nazareth
Source: Register Guard
URL Source: http://registerguard.com/csp/cms/si ... tory.cls?cid=81129&sid=4&fid=2
Published: Mar 21, 2008
Author: Jeff Wright
Post Date: 2008-03-21 13:45:17 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 269
Comments: 14

Just in time for Easter, a Eugene author this weekend will unveil his new book arguing that Jesus did not hail from Nazareth — because Nazareth did not exist during Jesus’ lifetime.

Rene Salm will talk about his book, “The Myth of Nazareth: The Invented Town of Jesus,” at the American Atheists’ national conference in Minneapolis. He also will rub shoulders there with the likes of Richard Dawkins, author of the best-selling ode to atheism, “The God Delusion.”

But Salm, a 55-year-old mental health worker and published composer of classical music, insists he’s not anti-Christian — pointing to the framed drawing of Jesus and many books on Christianity that adorn his home library as evidence.

“I do consider myself an atheist but I am not anti-religion,” said Salm, who is also a longtime student of Buddhism. “I am a very spiritual person.”

Salm has spent the past eight years researching his book, a 375-page work that is carefully indexed and footnoted. Working intensively at the University of Oregon Knight Library and its lending library, Salm said he has scoured almost all of the archaeological and other relevant records relating to the biblical community of Nazareth. He said he hired a Hebrew translator to help him make sense of one document, and contacted another researcher who lives in France.

But what does it matter where Jesus actually lived? “It’s the domino effect,” said Salm. “If Nazareth goes, then a whole lot of other so-called facts about Jesus also go out the window.”

Salm said he suspects early Christian evangelists insisted that Jesus came from Nazareth because the “inerrant” Bible said he did, and because they wished to promote the idea of Jesus as a divine savior.

Salm said it’s more likely Jesus grew up in Judea, where belief in human divinity did not exist. Such a belief “was very non-Jewish, even heresy,” he said.

Salm rests his case on two main points: All the tombs that have been found in and around Nazareth date no further back than A.D. 50, and all the oil lamps date from between A.D. 25 and A.D. 135.

“Nazareth appears to have begun about 70 years after the life of Jesus,” he said. “Before then, there is no evidence for Nazareth.”

For more than 100 years, scholars have debated such aspects of the Gospels as the Resurrection, virgin birth and Jesus’ miracles, Salm said. “But those all boil down to my opinion vs. your opinion,” he said. “This you can arguably prove. This is based on digging in the ground.”

Salm concedes he does not have the academic credentials — doctoral degree, university teaching post or peer-reviewed journal articles — that would lend weight to his research.

“If I can get the attention of scholars, I could have a radical impact,” he said. “All the people who have lampooned (my book) have, to a person, not read it.”

Salm said the book’s topic “fell into my lap” about 10 years ago when he was discussing it with other scholars online. “My first reaction was, this is kooky,” he said. He decided to explore the topic at the UO library, figuring he could disprove the claim within an hour.

“Instead I found an 1899 encyclopedia that said it was ‘very doubtful’ that Jesus came from Nazareth.”

Salm grew up in Beirut, where his father worked for the U.S. Embassy, but moved to Eugene in time for his senior year in high school. A spiritual experience in the woods at age 21, he said, has guided his lifelong passion in Christian and Buddhist studies.

“I’m looking for understanding, I’m looking for the facts,” he said. “It’s not so important to me what the facts are as much as they are true.”

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But Salm, a 55-year-old mental health worker and published composer of classical music, insists he’s not anti-Christian — pointing to the framed drawing of Jesus and many books on Christianity that adorn his home library as evidence.

“I do consider myself an atheist but I am not anti-religion,” said Salm, who is also a longtime student of Buddhism. “I am a very spiritual person.” .....

But what does it matter where Jesus actually lived? “It’s the domino effect,” said Salm. “If Nazareth goes, then a whole lot of other so-called facts about Jesus also go out the window.”

and there's the truth of the matter....he'd like to see Jesus go away.

imo, this is another manifestaton of the continuation of the Danite [Samson, a Nazarite, was of the tribe of Dan] plot against Christ, upon whose shoulders the world is resting [Isaiah 9:6], contrary to the fervent desires of the Tribe of Dan: ohr.edu/yhiy/article.php/1401 , who are trying to reinstate the old world order Christ destroyed with their Judeo-British Israel apostate politico-religion. Here: http://scepterofjudah.net/

"....the authority of the Sanhedrin had already been passed to the Romans.

Panic Reaction

When the members of the Sanhedrin found themselves deprived of their right over life and death, they covered their heads with ashes and their bodies with sackcloth, and bemoaned, "Woe unto us for the scepter has departed from Judah and the Messiah has not come!"10 They actually thought that the Torah, the Word of God, had failed! They should have known better.

The scepter had, indeed, been removed from Judah, but Shiloh had come. While the Jews wept in the streets of Jerusalem, a young son of a carpenter was growing up in **** Nazareth. He would present Himself as the Meshiach Nagid, Messiah the King, on the very day which had been predicted by the Angel Gabriel to Daniel five centuries earlier.11

(In fact, every detail of His life had been foretold centuries earlier.) ....."

A Christmas Promise: THE SCEPTER OF JUDAH

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=76053

Mat 2:19 ¶ But when Herod was dead, behold, an angel of the Lord appeareth in a dream to Joseph in Egypt,

Mat 2:20 Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child's life.

Mat 2:21 And he arose, and took the young child and his mother, and came into the land of Israel.

Mat 2:22 But when he heard that Archelaus did reign in Judaea in the room of his father Herod, he was afraid to go thither: notwithstanding, being warned of God in a dream, he turned aside into the parts of Galilee:

Mat 2:23 And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat002.html#23 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mat/2/23.html

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Jdg 13:5 For, lo, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and no razor shall come on his head: for the child shall be a Nazarite unto God from the womb: and he shall begin to deliver Israel out of the hand of the Philistines. note who this was spoken to: the parents of Samson, of THE TRIBE OF DAN. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jdg/Jdg013.html#5

Note also Samson would only BEGIN to deliver Israel....David finished the job of delivering Israel from the Philistines.... http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Jdg/13/5.html .....just like Jesus Christ will finish the job of delivering the New Revived Israel [the Church] from the hand of the antiChrist tribe of Dan :

THE LOST TRIBE OF DAN - THE EARLY JEWISH & CHRISTIAN VIEW OF THE IDENTITY OF THE ANTICHRIST http://watch.pair.com/dan.html

".....Judaeans in Gilead of Machir are believed to have bordered Dan and to be those named "Judah upon Jordan toward the sunrising" in the Book of Joshua (19;34). Thus, Dan and Judah were neighbors in north and south Israel. In Jewish tradition Judah and Dan are often juxtapositioned. Samson the superman hero came from the Tribe of Dan but his mother was from Judah. **** Samson, in some respects, was considered a forerunner of the Messiah who will come from Judah but his mother, according to the Midrash (Gen. Rab. 49; 9) will be of the Tribe of Dan. A lion represented both Judah and Dan, though Dan has additional symbols such as the snake and ***** dragon......"

The Tribe of Dan: Present Day Identifications The Tribe of Dan and peoples descended from Dan http://www.britam.org/dan.html

re: the dragon....see the Jew Money Power book The Great Red Dragon at http://greatreddragon.com . The dragon is also the symbol of The City of London. The City of London is the one-square mile nation-within-a-nation that is representative of the "nation" in Genesis 15:14, that has enslaved the seed of Abraham [Galatians 3:16-29], the church in America, for 401 years this April 19.

I found this interesting, as well:

"...After the Ten Tribes had been exiled, the Yaati (Utii) were to be found in Carmania (southwest Iran) bordering the Dangalae whose name implies "Dan-of-the Galilee". ...."

I've often thought that is partly who was referred to here [ http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Isa/9/2.html ]:

and FINALLY! I think I just found the connection between Dan and Cain [Jesus told the Pharisees, you are of your father the Devil], the spiritual or otherwise seed of Satan, and whose spiritual or otherwise seed was on the ark, and whose curse continued on Canaan:

"....Dan, situated on the northern border of the area given to Israel, was very slack about driving out the pagan Canaanites in their midst. They didn't always participate in the collective defense or offense of Israel as they should have. When Deborah sang about her victory over the Canaanite king Jabin, she asked, "And why did Dan remain on ships?" ( Judges 5:17)......"

Why is the tribe of Dan NOT mentioned in the book of Revelation?

www.biblestudy.org/questi...n-book-of-revelation.html

So, of course, they would have intermarried with them!

btw, the offspring of Judah these people claim to descend from is not Pharez, who produced Christ, but his twin Zarah, of the scarlet cord.

Hopefully, you can see why it becomes necessary for them to deny that Nazareth exists: so they can knock Christ off His throne, in order that they may put one of their own from the tribe of Dan on it.

A lot of those cities were destroyed and built over many times. Each new layer is called a Tel. Tel Dan is now called Tell Al-Qadi.....

Welcome to the Dan Expedition « Tel Dan Excavations Tel Dan is one of the most important sites for the archaeological and ... of Tell al-Qadi (as the site is known in Arabic) with the biblical city of Dan. ... http://teldan.wordpress.com/

If they dig deep enough, I'll bet they'll find Nazareth, if indeed, they haven't already.

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