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Title: Where Clinton, Obama, and McCain Stand on Immigration
Source: http://www.usnews.com
URL Source: http://www.usnews.com/articles/news ... cain-stand-on-immigration.html
Published: Mar 17, 2008
Author: http://www.usnews.com
Post Date: 2008-03-24 12:08:09 by robin
Ping List: *The Border*
Keywords: None
Views: 188
Comments: 6

Where Clinton, Obama, and McCain Stand on Immigration

Posted March 17, 2008

ClintonObamaMcCain

Border Fence

"Let’s deploy more technology and personnel, instead of the physical barrier."

Clinton voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which authorized a fence on the Mexican border, but has softened her support by criticizing the fence’s execution.

"The key is to consult with local communities [when] creating any kind of barrier."

Obama voted for the fence but has since joined Clinton in de-emphasizing his support, which is unpopular in border towns and among Hispanic voters.

"Borders are borders, and there should be agreements between the landowners and the federal government."

McCain voted for the fence and has encouraged agreements to allow the government to enter private property to survey land.

Guest-Worker Program

"It is easier sometimes to employ people who are immigrants and… really take advantage of them."

Despite voting for the failed McCain-Kennedy bill, Clinton says she opposes a guest-worker program because it could depress U.S. wages.

"Illegal immigration is bad for illegal immigrants and bad for the workers against whom they compete."

Obama supports a guest-worker program with a database of workers, arguing it will improve wages and conditions for all workers.

"We need workers in this country. There are certain jobs that Ameri­cans are simply not willing to do."

McCain cosponsored the failed Senate bill that proposed a guest-worker program with a registry and a path to legalization for illegal immigrants.

Legalization/Amnesty

"[Deporting all illegal immigrants] is absolutely unrealistic, and it is not in keeping with American values."

Clinton supports allowing illegal immigrants to apply for legal residency if they pay a penalty and don’t have a criminal record.

"Give the 12 million people who are here illegally… many of whom have U.S. citi­zens for children…a pathway to legalization."

Obama supports giving illegal immigrants a path to legal residency, similar to Clinton’s position.

"Make them earn citizenship because they have broken our laws."

As a principal author of the failed immigration bill, which would have given illegal immigrants a path to citizenship, McCain hasstruggled to convince conservatives that his plan is not amnesty.

Enforcement and Security

"It is unconscionable to think that in a post-9/11 world, we do not precisely know who is entering and exiting our country."

Clinton voted for comprehensive immigration reform, which would work to enhance national security by tightening the borders and implementing an employer verification system.

"I will make sure that the federal government does what it’s supposed to do...a better job of closing our borders and preventing hundreds of thousands of people to pour in."

Obama voted for comprehensive immigration reform and has stressed that legalizing workers will boost U.S. wages.

"I will secure the borders first, and I will have the border states’ governors certify that those borders are secured. We can do it with UAVs, with vehicle barriers, with walls, and with high tech and cameras."

McCain, a key player in the immigration reform fight, has moved from pushing the cause of legalization to emphasizing the need for border security first.

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#1. To: All (#0)

"Illegal immigration is bad for illegal immigrants and bad for the workers against whom they compete."

Obama supports a guest-worker program with a database of workers, arguing it will improve wages and conditions for all workers.

This belongs under Obama, it shifted right for some reason.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-24   12:10:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robin (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-03-24   12:16:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#1)

"We need workers in this country. There are certain jobs that Ameri­cans are simply not willing to do."

McCain cosponsored the failed Senate bill that proposed a guest-worker program with a registry and a path to legalization for illegal immigrants.

This should be under McCain, it also shifted right.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-24   12:22:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#0)

Where Clinton, Obama, and McCain Stand on Immigration

This is more nearly correct.

"Where Clinton, Obama, and McCain Stoop on Immigration"

Cynicom  posted on  2008-03-24   12:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: ghostdogtxn, *The Border* (#2)

I think McCain may be the most pro-illegals of the 3.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-24   12:22:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: robin (#5)

I think McCain may be the most pro-illegals of the 3.

Yes, he's doing a good bit of backing and covering since becoming the Plutocrat candidate but his record is there for all to see.

RP's stance on border security was superior to any of the three (oddly enough it was/is diametrically opposed to Libertarian philosophy). But, he is not in the race.

Hitlery and Jack D. Ripper have much greater support from Hispanics and Jews than Obama .... but the obstinance of Obama opposers rolls right along.

Rejection of the achievable good for the un-achievable perfect?

Sad.

The road to perdition .... Bush/Clinton/Bush/McClinton

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-24   15:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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