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Title: Two McCain Moments, Rarely Mentioned
Source: New York Times
URL Source: http://tinyurl.com/2cou74
Published: Mar 24, 2008
Author: Elisabeth Bumiller
Post Date: 2008-03-24 14:54:35 by nolu_chan
Keywords: None
Views: 179
Comments: 12

March 24, 2008
Two McCain Moments, Rarely Mentioned
By ELISABETH BUMILLER

WASHINGTON — Senator John McCain never fails to call himself a conservative Republican as he campaigns as his party’s presumptive presidential nominee. He often adds that he was a “foot soldier” in the Reagan revolution and that he believes in the bedrock conservative principles of small government, low taxes and the rights of the unborn.

What Mr. McCain almost never mentions are two extraordinary moments in his political past that are at odds with the candidate of the present: His discussions in 2001 with Democrats about leaving the Republican Party, and his conversations in 2004 with Senator John Kerry about becoming Mr. Kerry’s running mate on the Democratic presidential ticket.

There are wildly divergent versions of both episodes, depending on whether Democrats or Mr. McCain and his advisers are telling the story. The Democrats, including Mr. Kerry, say that not only did Mr. McCain express interest but that it was his camp that initially reached out to them. Mr. McCain and his aides counter that in both cases the Democrats were the suitors and Mr. McCain the unwilling bride.

Either way, the episodes shed light on a bitter period in Mr. McCain’s life after the 2000 presidential election, when he was, at least in policy terms, drifting away from his own party. They also offer a glimpse into his psychological makeup and the difficulties in putting a label on his political ideology over many years in the Senate.

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#1. To: nolu_chan (#0)

"I will conduct a respectful debate," McCain told the crowd at Texas Instruments, per ABC News' Bret Hovell. "Now, it will be spirited because there are stark differences. I am a proud conservative, liberal Republica--- conservative Republican," he said, catching himself. "Hello?" he said as the crowd laughed. "Easy there."

McCain's 'Liberal' Misstep.

Even recently, McCain hasn't always called himself just a "conservative Republican".

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-03-24   14:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: nolu_chan (#0)

Senator John McCain Speaks to Dan Rather on 9/11/01, regarding State Sponsored Terrorism: "I have felt that there's been involvement"

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-03-24   15:21:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: nolu_chan (#0)

That he is a candidate at all, is an in your face FU to the whole country.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-03-24   15:46:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Peppa (#3)

That he is a candidate at all, is an in your face FU to the whole country.

Republican Change! ;-)

Hillary ... Democrat Change! ;-)

The road to perdition .... Bush/Clinton/Bush/McClinton

iconoclast  posted on  2008-03-24   15:53:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: iconoclast (#4) (Edited)

Republican Change! ;-)

Hillary ... Democrat Change! ;-)

Obama, staus quo.

All 3 are Globalist Candidates.

"The truth that makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear." -- Herbert Sebastien Agar (1897-1980) Source: The Time for Greatness, 1942

Peppa  posted on  2008-03-24   16:23:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: nolu_chan (#0)

What Mr. McCain almost never mentions are two extraordinary moments in his political past that are at odds with the candidate of the present: His discussions in 2001 with Democrats about leaving the Republican Party, and his conversations in 2004 with Senator John Kerry about becoming Mr. Kerry’s running mate on the Democratic presidential ticket.

On CNN this evening, they played clips that show how easily McCain lies.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-24   23:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robin (#6)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrJKB22PITs

TPMtv: John McCain vs. The Video Tape

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-03-25   0:04:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Peppa (#3)

That he is a candidate at all, is an in your face FU to the whole country.

If McCain, Clinton and Obama are the three most qualified, what does that say about the rest of congress?

nolu_chan  posted on  2008-03-25   0:14:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin, nolu_chan (#6)

On CNN this evening, they played clips that show how easily McCain lies.

John McCain vs. John McCain


"I would not run round a corner to see the world blow up." ~ Henry David Thoreau

wudidiz  posted on  2008-03-25   0:20:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#9)


"I would not run round a corner to see the world blow up." ~ Henry David Thoreau

wudidiz  posted on  2008-03-25   0:23:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: nolu_chan (#8)

McCain, Clinton and Obama are the three most qualified, what does that say about the rest of congress?

The Three Clowns are not the most qualified, they just have the biggest ego's to stick out the process. I think that the next President should not come from Congress. There are plenty of men from the private sector that are running large corporations ethically and honestly that would make a good president, they just don't want to go through the BS that the MSM would throw at them.

"If the Union was formed by the accession of States, then the Union may be dissolved by the secession of States." ---Daniel Webster, US Senate, Feb. 15, 1833

X-15  posted on  2008-03-25   1:05:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: wudidiz (#9)

wow! Everyone should watch this evidence that McCain lies like Hillary.

'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz

robin  posted on  2008-03-25   10:51:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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