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Title: Saint Obama on the 2nd amendment
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Published: Mar 25, 2008
Author: BHO
Post Date: 2008-03-25 17:19:57 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 14949
Comments: 170

Dear Friend,

Thank you for contacting me about gun laws and the Second Amendment. I appreciate hearing from you on this important issue. Americans broadly agree that guns must be kept from those who may pose a threat, and that the rights of legitimate hunters and sportsmen should be protected.

We must work to ensure that guns do not fall into the hands of criminals or the mentally ill through an effective background check system. We also have to strike a reasonable balance between public safety and sportsmen's rights.

I will continue to work for effective gun laws, including reinstatement of the assault weapons ban that the last Congress allowed to expire, and effective law enforcement. I will also speak out against the culture of violence that traps so many of our young people.

Thank you again for contacting me on this important issue.

Sincerely,

Barack Obama*


Poster Comment:

Did you know that it was written for *"..sportsman's rights.."*?

Saint Barack: the final nail in the coffin of America.

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#93. To: Critter (#88)

what's the High Road?

christine  posted on  2008-03-26   17:29:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Critter (#8)

Only if hunting corrupt politicians ever becomes a sport.

Just think how great it would be with no bag limit! And target-rich environments all over the country from the smallest hamlets to the huge metropolitan complexes. Yes indeed.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-03-26   17:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Pinguinite (#80) (Edited)

Is it moral to vote for a warmonger just to protect our 2A rights if it means more death and destruction in Iraq and Iran?

The One World Monopolists will kill anyone that doesn't go along.

All 3 are on the SAME TEAM!

Their M.O.s might be varied, and YOUR MILEAGE may vary, but you're going to get the SAME GAME!!


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-26   17:32:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: James Deffenbach (#94)

Just think how great it would be with no bag limit! And target-rich environments all over the country from the smallest hamlets to the huge metropolitan complexes. Yes indeed.


You had me day dreaming for a moment!! ahaha


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-26   17:33:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#78)

On one the subject of what to do if FEDGOV showed up to confiscate your food and medical supplies in a survival situation came up. Anyone who answered along the lines of "feed em to the hogs!" was banned. Anyone who was banned was sent off with a hale of "Get lost, KOOK!" posts.

Such a paradox. Stating that you will defend you own bests interests to the last is a crime. Daydreaming about sitting in the gunner's seat of a Bradley and pumping 25mm rounds into ragheads (or American hating hippies) all day means you love America and the terrorists haven't won.

Hold on there, you can't just go around throwing out sound logic, it's detrimental to everything we were taught in government schools and might lead to people questioning authority....

"If the Union was formed by the accession of States, then the Union may be dissolved by the secession of States." ---Daniel Webster, US Senate, Feb. 15, 1833

X-15  posted on  2008-03-26   17:37:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: FOH (#96)

Dreaming is good. I engage in it whenever possible.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-03-26   17:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: ghostdogtxn (#70)

I'm gonna have to go with HOUNDDAWG on this one, Dakmar. I'd suggest you edit your comment.

You're right, giant red flashing letters would have been much better.

“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac

Dakmar  posted on  2008-03-26   17:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: christine (#93)

A forum, supposedly for politically incorrect gun owners. It was started by Oleg Volk, who at one time, was quite a pro 2A guy, but seems to have sold his soul.

Rebates for Ron - Ron Paul For Dummies - New R3volution

Critter  posted on  2008-03-26   17:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Dakmar (#50)

I've just declared shooting politicians a sport.

Start with critters with known ties to subversive, Constitution-hating institutions such as the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateralists and Bilderberg...for starters.

The illegal shadow government bleeds, too.


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-26   17:53:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: FOH (#101)

Start with critters...

NOT!

Rebates for Ron - Ron Paul For Dummies - New R3volution

Critter  posted on  2008-03-26   17:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Dakmar, christine (#99)

You're right, giant red flashing letters would have been much better.

That's why we're fortunate to have the 'edit' option on this fine site...


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-26   17:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: James Deffenbach (#94)

And target-rich environments all over the country from the smallest hamlets to the huge metropolitan complexes.

The next revolution is going to start with the assassination of some obscure, petty bureaucrat that pisses someone off big time, with petty bureaucratic bullshit. Then another, and another, until it steamrolls out of control.

Rebates for Ron - Ron Paul For Dummies - New R3volution

Critter  posted on  2008-03-26   17:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: FOH (#101)

Start with critters with known ties to subversive, Constitution-hating institutions such as the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateralists and Bilderberg...for starters.

What I really meant was that if politicians can change the meaning of the Constitution at will, which if you remember from civics class is a pact with We The People, maybe we can change the definition of "sports".

“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac

Dakmar  posted on  2008-03-26   17:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Critter (#102)

Start with critters...

NOT!

DOH!

hehehe


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-26   17:57:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: FOH (#103)

That's why we're fortunate to have the 'edit' option on this fine site...

You only have X amount of time to do so, two hours I think.

“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac

Dakmar  posted on  2008-03-26   17:58:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Dakmar (#105) (Edited)

Just surviving as a patriot American in Amerika has become a sport...


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-26   18:00:57 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Dakmar, christine (#107)

I believe it's as many edits as you wish within 3 hours of the 1st edit...


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-26   18:01:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Critter (#104)

UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES

(have you read it?)

christine  posted on  2008-03-26   18:09:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: FOH (#109)

yes, you're correct.

christine  posted on  2008-03-26   18:09:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: christine (#110)

Not yet. Maybe one of these days...

Rebates for Ron - Ron Paul For Dummies - New R3volution

Critter  posted on  2008-03-26   18:37:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Jethro Tull, Dakmar, christine (#56)

I get the sportsman connection, Dak. And anyone who knows your sense of humor gets it. BTW, wasn't it Pat Robertson who called for the assassination of Chavez for political sport? On his Christian Broadcasting Network no less? Or perhaps you were alluding to our esteemed VP who shot his best friend and confidant while sporting? My statement stands and I don't give a rats ass who likes it or not; the day this government attempts to disarm me is the day I say no. If anyone here thinks the 2nd is about anything less then to fight back against a tyrannical govt. then Obama and his ilk have completed their mission.

I've been involved in several shooting situations, and if you had you'd know that sane, healthy people don't find anything humorous about shootings, and they don't solve ordinary political problems with unilateral gun play.

JT, you advocated "shooting the bastards" in a recent discussion about abusive cops' treatment of protesters. Were you "joking", too?

And, Pat Robertson is a fucking kook neocon religious fanatic. and, true patriots condemned his remarks. They certainly don't use him for cover.

There are too many sickos who believe that the America they're trying to "restore" is one where any bureaucratic nuisance is met with a hail of bullets. That has never been the definition of freedom here and only silly shits who've never been in a shooting would say something that fucking stupid.

Patriots don't shoot meter maids, city inspectors or even politicians as a form of collective punishment because A) it's morally wrong, and B) it will only result in draconian responses that make things worse.

You can share your foxhole with sick little shits who joke about the very unfunny shooting of unarmed and unsuspecting politicians, but, don't be surprised if you get back shot by a sicko someday.

I'm quite likely the best pistolero on this fucking board, and I don't ever joke about the business of war, because if and when it comes you and these assholes like Dakmar will see soon enough that there's not a goddam thing about it that's funny.

And, Hell, if you were still on the job you'd be the first to arrest a protester for shooting a cop and for violating those fucked up NYC gun laws regardless of how legit the grievance against the police.

Sufjan Stevens is a twink

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-26   23:05:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#57)

Judging by the thread, I'd say they've already won. Years of conditioning have finally convinced most people to work within the very system that is their enemy and that any "hotheads" should be turned into the local DHS office.

When the end comes in this nation I see the farcical view of people being crushed under the tank treads while pleading with their last breath that things can still be resolved via political process. At the same time they'll hurl insults and scorn at the few people who are brave and prudent enough to try prying open the commander's hatch to heave a molotov inside.

The thugs in DC can call for the destruction of nations simply because we have spare bombs sitting around, sing "bomb bomb Iran", entertain the idea of "limited" nuclear strikes, and look the American people in the eye and say "your opinion means nothing"; That's okay.

...but make a joke about hunting your congressman for sport and you're the nut that needs to be locked up.

I can't decide if Americans are the biggest cowards God ever made or has the majority of the population truly gone insane.

Listen you fucking pussy, you will piss your pants and hide under your bed when the shit hits the fan.

So, fuck off you two faced ass kisser!

Sufjan Stevens is a twink

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-26   23:07:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: FOH, christine (#101)

Start with critters with known ties to subversive, Constitution-hating institutions such as the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateralists and Bilderberg...for starters.

The illegal shadow government bleeds, too.

Why don't you name them and make up a death list?

christine, are you getting this?

This isn't about a patriot revolution. It's about forming an assassins' cult. Making sure they target unarmed and unsuspecting bureaucrats. After all, they wouldn't want to attack a special forces team and risk getting shot themselves, right?

Fucking cowards.

Sufjan Stevens is a twink

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-26   23:12:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: HOUNDDAWG (#115)

You're a freakin GENIUS!

A REAL SLEUTH YOU ARE there Dawg...


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-26   23:21:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Critter, christine (#104)

The next revolution is going to start with the assassination of some obscure, petty bureaucrat that pisses someone off big time, with petty bureaucratic bullshit. Then another, and another, until it steamrolls out of control.

Only in your sick boy fantasies.

Here's another one, chris. Geez, this place is a magnet for internet assassins and commandos, ain't it?

You could just as easily visualize an awakening where Americans take back this country, but, that doesn't do a thing for you because there's no Hollywood glam gun play, right?

Try a real shootout sometime. (Please don't back shoot a meter maid) You may find that you lose your taste for it, and would actually prefer the harder road of winning the people over instead of murdering those who pose obstacles to your goals.

Hell, that's what the Clintons do. If they have a problem they kill the sonofabitch. And, they have more enemies than ever as will you if you try that to solve America's problems.

Sufjan Stevens is a twink

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-26   23:21:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: FOH (#116)

It didn't take much to show your lack of intellectual prowess.

Stay out this okay, Sonny? The grownups are talking.

Sufjan Stevens is a twink

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-26   23:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: HOUNDDAWG (#118)

So why are you at the kiddie table, nut breath?


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-26   23:23:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: FOH (#119)

I've said what I need to say to you and I don't cross swords with ignorance.

If you wanna play I'll be happy to shut you down, though.

DO YOU?

Sufjan Stevens is a twink

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-26   23:31:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: HOUNDDAWG (#120)

After you go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut, then walk down to your local PD and turn in your firearms, THEN prostrate yourself before the man...THEN we can talk you big bag of douche.


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-26   23:35:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: FOH (#121)

After you go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut, then walk down to your local PD and turn in your firearms, THEN prostrate yourself before the man...THEN we can talk you big bag of douche.

Sorry.

Your post is below the minimum intelligence threshhold.

Try again!

HAH!

Sufjan Stevens is a twink

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-26   23:42:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: HOUNDDAWG (#122) (Edited)

Dou're Yrunk!


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-26   23:48:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: HOUNDDAWG (#113)

And, Hell, if you were still on the job you'd be the first to arrest a protester for shooting a cop and for violating those fucked up NYC gun laws regardless of how legit the grievance against the police.

Sad.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-03-26   23:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: HOUNDDAWG (#113)

I'm quite likely the best pistolero on this fucking board

Probably not. MotherF*_cker.


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-27   0:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: FOH (#123)

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Sufjan Stevens is a twink

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-27   0:04:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Jethro Tull (#124)

And, Hell, if you were still on the job you'd be the first to arrest a protester for shooting a cop and for violating those fucked up NYC gun laws regardless of how legit the grievance against the police.

Cutting to close to the bone, eh?

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2008-03-27   0:06:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: HOUNDDAWG (#113)

I'm quite likely the best pistolero on this fucking board

Good for you, I admire Jelly Bryce's. I will stick to my rifles, it's much more interesting for me to hit little targets at a good distance.

"If the Union was formed by the accession of States, then the Union may be dissolved by the secession of States." ---Daniel Webster, US Senate, Feb. 15, 1833

X-15  posted on  2008-03-27   0:31:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: ALL (#128)

http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=32709&Disp=114#C114

christine  posted on  2008-03-27   2:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Brian S (#127)

Cutting to close to the bone, eh?

Brian, to my knowledge I've never had a cross word with you. And no, this isn't cutting close to the bone. I worked in the worst slums in NY, and the ghetto residents I arrested deserved it. But you wouldn't have a clue about anything I've ever done, would you? I suspect your poke at me is b/c I don't adore the political fraud you do, Saint Obama, and this thread exposed his warped position on the 2nd Amendment. For you, or anyone else, to not want to know where a politician stands on specific issues is the working definition of ignorant.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-03-27   6:20:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: X-15 (#128)

Mastering the rifle was easy, and my well tuned super accurate rifles are ready with hundreds of tailored handloads to match.

Combat handgunning is a little more difficult. Hell, even Brownies and Cub Scouts shoot well the first time out with a shoulder stocked arm.

Sufjan Stevens is a twink

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-27   6:58:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Jethro Tull (#130)

Did the cops who were shot deserve it?

You advocate shooting them and made no distinction between good ones or bad ones.

Should the whole NYPD suffer collectively for the crimes of the more egregious officers?

Sufjan Stevens is a twink

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-03-27   6:59:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: HOUNDDAWG (#132)

You advocate shooting them and made no distinction between good ones or bad ones.

Who are you talking about?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-03-27   7:05:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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