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Title: Security concerns prompt Rev. Wright to cancel trip (DEATH THREATS)
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Houston Chronicle
URL Source: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/life/religion/5648912.html
Published: Mar 26, 2008
Author: SHANNON BUGGS and JENNIFER LEAHY
Post Date: 2008-03-26 15:44:49 by aristeides
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Comments: 27
Security concerns prompt Rev. Wright to cancel trip Obama's former pastor was set to preach in Houston on Sunday By SHANNON BUGGS and JENNIFER LEAHY Security concerns have prompted the Rev. Jeremiah Wright to cancel his appearance at Houston's Wheeler Avenue Baptist Church for the first time in two decades. Wright, who until February was minister of Sen. Barack Obama's church, Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ, was scheduled to preach three guest sermons in Houston on Sunday. The theologian who Obama has said strengthened his Christian faith has been a regular revival preacher at Wheeler for about 20 years. Wheeler's pastor, the Rev. Marcus Cosby, said Wright cited three reasons for his cancellation — "the safety of the institution to which he has been invited; ... the safety of his family, which has been placed in harm's way; and for his own safety.". Cosby said he would reverse that order and put the safety of Wright and his family above any thoughts of protecting Wheeler Avenue. The church had arranged for increased security for Wright's visit, he said, including contacting the Houston Police Department and coordinating a security detail in conjunction with Wright's Chicago church. The Rev. Myron Cloyd of the Pilgrim Congregational United Church of Christ in Houston has known Wright for more than 20 years. "As much as I hate for him not to come I think it's probably prudent," said Cloyd, noting that Wright does not normally travel with bodyguards or assistants. "There have been threats against his life and the last thing he would ever want is the potential for someone to be hurt," said Cloyd. Cloyd, who has had Wright speak at his church in the past, said he wished that Wright could have the opportunity to "set the record straight" to Houstonians. Widely publicized recorded excerpts from Wright's past sermons, in which he quoted a former Iraq ambassador as saying that U.S. actions prompted the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and that the government created HIV to target people of color and harassed blacks through "three strike" laws, prompted Obama to address race issues in a speech last week. Obama termed Wright's comments "divisive," but also suggested that the snippets were not representative of the clergyman he has known for more than two decades. "I think we have taken Dr. Wright out of context with sound bites," Cosby said. "After all these years, I am not going to kick him to the curb over sound bites." "Dr. Wright has a perpetual invitation to Wheeler Avenue Baptist Church. Whenever he is comfortable traveling, he will be welcome at Wheeler Avenue Baptist Church." The long-standing relationship between the Chicago and Houston congregations and their pastors stretches back to Wheeler's first pastor, the Rev. William Lawson, pastor emeritus at Wheeler Avenue Baptist Church. A confidant of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., Lawson started the tradition of bringing Wright to Wheeler to reinvigorate the congregation during winter revivals with topical sermons that espoused black liberation theology. "Part of what we do traditionally as African-American preachers is combine current affairs with religious affairs," Cosby said."We put the Bible in one hand and the newspaper in the other." Cloyd said Wright's comments come from that tradition and have been taken out of that context. "As pastors our goal is to teach and inspire and (Wright) uses a variety of strategies— he's certainly very passionate," Cloyd said. "We energize and mobilize not to hate but to recognize injustice, encourage change, to go out and vote, for example." Wheeler's announcement of the cancellation came the same day that Wright cancelled three days of appearances in Tampa, Fla., security concerns. The Tampa Tribune reported that the Rev. Earl Mason, pastor of Bible-Based Fellowship Church of Temple Terrace, blamed the cancellation on "hype" and "commotion" surrounding the visit. Mason also said the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office would not provide security for the event, a claim the law enforcement officials denied, the Tribune reported. Meanwhile, The Dallas Morning News reported the Rev. Wright's scheduled visit to North Texas also was pending. Wright is scheduled on Saturday to attend luncheon at Paul Quinn College in southeast Oak Cliff, where he's to be honored that night at Friendship-West Baptist Church in the Red Bird area. Both events were moved from Texas Christian University because of security concerns by TCU officials, the News reported. shannon.buggs@chron.com
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#1. To: aristeides (#0)
For 30 years Wright pastored a church that is known for its good works in the community it serves. He makes a few very outrageous remarks, and now he is a target.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
Made a target by certain types of people that I think we have become familiar with.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Threats against a piece of shit, imagine that.
God is always good!
Just the attitude I was talking about in #2.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Care to describe those "types" for discussion?
Funny how the article calls Wright, the racist piece of shit and political activist who uses church for his political mouthpiece of hatred...a "clergyman." BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! And now someone has threatened him? Payback is a bitch ain't it "reverend." I guess some folks just got damned sick of the double standard.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Let's address the specific points Wright made, and tell me which ones you disagree with? I'd never heard of the guy before this story broke, but look at what he says, he's ranting against zionism, the phony drug war, hypocrisy of our foreign policy, etc. He appears to make more sense than all the people on FOX news, no?? as far as the white comments, the majority if not all of the bilderbergers, masons, grovers etc in charge are mostly all old white pervert satanists. sorry, but it's true, ain't it? I have even correlated his comments to other issues. "you think a nation that slaughters 20 million unborn babies, and bans guns, and steals peoples land, steals the fruit of their labor, refuses to answer their righteous questions, poisons and brainwashes their kids, and on and on... that God will 'BLESS' such a nation? That God will BLESS america?? 'God Bless America'? No. No. No. Not 'God Bless America,'!!! Wright's controversial comments By POLITICO STAFF | 3/17/08 www.politico.com/news /stories/0308/9089.html Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. is a retiring pastor and outgoing spiritual adviser to Sen. Barack Obama. Photo: AP “Barack knows what it means to be a black man living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich, white people. Hillary ain't never been called a n——- .” “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three- strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America'? No. No. No. Not 'God Bless America,' 'God damn America.' God damn America for killing innocent people.” “They will not only attack you if you try to point out what’s happening in white America. U.S. of KKK A.” “We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought back into our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.” "America is still the No. 1 killer in the world. ... We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns and the training of professional killers. ... We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God. ... We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic. … We started the AIDS virus. ... We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty.”
MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist." RickyJ has spared me the bother. And so now has IndieTX.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
kinda like Dr. (sic) King. But at least he's looking after his own.
The truth is that responsible Southerners have deliberately weakened their own defense because of their unwillingness to raise the underlying problem. They talk of states’ rights when they should be talking anthropology, and they do so out of instinctive human kindness. There is a point at which kindness imposed upon ceases to be a virtue.
Lew Rockwell has been posting many items in favor of Rev. Wright at his blog at lewrockwell.com. And he cites to one particularly persuasive piece by David R. Henderson, Jeremiah Wright: True and False , which disagrees with Wright's economic views, but otherwise strongly approves of him.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I prefer to read your definition as to "types". I think it would be interesting.
The type that would refer to Wright as a "piece of s***" and suggest he deserves whatever he gets, for starters.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
No clue as to what Wright's economic takes may be, but the rest of his stuff sounds just like what Alex Jones reports. BHO had a chance to really open the debate on this country and what we're about, behind the scene, and he totally ducked the opportunity.
Like Ron Paul, I think he judged that that would be political suicide. It doesn't speak well of our country, but I think both men are right about that.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Some here appear to only know about the Rev. Wright, from what they learned on Fox News or Rush Limbaugh. I'm a Baptist, and some Baptist preachers can get really emotional and carried away. Look at Hagee and Robertson. I don't know if they've had any death threats but they've said some very strange things.
'Individuals should not take responsibility for their own defense. That’s what the police are for. ... If I oppose individuals defending themselves, I have to support police defending them. I have to support a police state.”' Alan Dershowitz
There are lists of American "political" assassins, well documented throughout American history. I have never found any "types" such as you allude to, however there are other common threads throughout the lists. Further I do not recall, Rubenstein, Oswald, Fromme, Weiss, Lawrence, Booth,Geuiteau, Czolgosz, Shrank etc etc ever making public statements that they were going to harm anyone. Just perhaps your personal bias from what you read has led you to incorrect assumptions???
People who might not themselves be capable of taking part in an assassination are often capable of helping to create a moral climate where somebody else feels entitled to commit it.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I see. Then Lincoln got what he deserved? Huey Long, JFK etc etc. Moral climate? Hardly...JFK was the most "idolized, worshiped, beloved" president of my time and from out of nowhere two assassins struck. Historical records do NOT bear you out in any sense whatsoever.
Come on, ari. What moral climate are YOU living in where you support a gun-grabbing, Afrocentric, World Government-loving, Marxist Black Panther? You're sofa king pathetic that I almost feel as though I'm abusing a handicapped individual sometimes...
It doesn't speak well of our country, but I think both men are right about that. Talk about a nation of dumbed-down sheeple. When we can't discuss provable facts, much less ideas, we're in a pitiful state.
I didn't say that. Lincoln was not one of the people who led some Confederate- sympathizing extremists to think that killing him would be justified.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
“Barack knows what it means to be a black man living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich, white people. Hillary ain't never been called a n——- .” And Barack will never know what it means to be raped and have bleach poured down his throat by a Sophisticated Black Gentleman. Hardly seems fair to me to complain that someone does not know what it is not possible for her to know. If the word coming from a white distresses him so much, perhaps he should avoid white people. The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three- strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America' One unstated questionable premise is that without prohibition of (some) drugs blacks would not be as violent as they are. Frankly I am grateful blacks are incarcerated at such high rates. I do have a problem with the forfeiture laws, as they guarantee abuse. They will not only attack you if you try to point out what’s happening in white America. U.S. of KKK A. If only. The Klan at the beginning of the 20th century did a fairly good job of reigning in lawless but fortunately superstitious blacks. It atrophied and became a little more absurd after its mission was accomplished, but it might be revived, should America descend further into tyranarchy. We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye. If you really believe that, Pastor, it might be a good idea to keep that in mind. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought back into our own front yards. Neither region is properly any of our business; America should also not have imposed sanctions on South Africa. We started the AIDS virus How about herpes, which half of adult black Americans have?
The truth is that responsible Southerners have deliberately weakened their own defense because of their unwillingness to raise the underlying problem. They talk of states’ rights when they should be talking anthropology, and they do so out of instinctive human kindness. There is a point at which kindness imposed upon ceases to be a virtue.
In the records, there is no bias as to whether any victim deserved it or not, nor any mention of moral climate. Perusing the different lists however does create interest.
Cyni - I grew up forty miles from Dealey Plaza and I will tell you that there was plenty enough 'hatred' of Jack Kennedy here in Texas - it was the perfect place for an assassination to take place, and immediately finger, and then murder their perfect patsy. A third of my high school were sobbing, a third were cheering, and the rest of us were just numb with disbelief.
People that speak of doing such rarely ever do. Usually political assassinations are well planned, orchestrated, and cleaned up.
Just like those who threaten lawsuits, or whatever. If you're going to do something, you do not threaten or announce it - 'it' just happens. I agree with you 100% on this.
Truth. More than I can say about the guilt ridden self immolative self destructive white race. Blaming everything on whitey is what makes him ignorant. Although he may have some facts right (sounds at times like RP), he has no idea what they mean, or who to blame, or what to do about it other than blame whitey. He exists by feeding off of that and breeding that idea among his flock of misguided souls..while the real "bad guys" get a pass and go unchallenged. There's more than whitey involved in TheStateIncCorporateCrimeConglomerate.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx
#2. To: robin (#1)
and now he is a target
#3. To: aristeides (#0)
#4. To: RickyJ (#3)
#5. To: aristeides (#2)
Made a target by certain types of people that I think we have become familiar with.
#6. To: RickyJ (#3)
Threats against a piece of shit, imagine that.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#7. To: IndieTX, Ricky, robin, lodwick (#6)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#8. To: Cynicom, RickyJ (#5)
(Edited)
Care to describe those "types" for discussion?
#9. To: IndieTX (#6)
a "clergyman."
#10. To: Artisan (#7)
#11. To: aristeides (#8)
RickyJ has spared me the bother.
#12. To: Cynicom (#11)
#13. To: aristeides (#10)
#14. To: lodwick (#13)
BHO had a chance to really open the debate on this country and what we're about, behind the scene, and he totally ducked the opportunity.
#15. To: Artisan (#7)
#16. To: aristeides (#12)
(Edited)
The type that would refer to Wright as a "piece of s***" and suggest he deserves whatever he gets, for starters.
#17. To: Cynicom (#16)
#18. To: aristeides (#17)
People who might not themselves be capable of taking part in an assassination are often capable of helping to create a moral climate where somebody else feels entitled to commit it.
#19. To: aristeides (#17)
People who might not themselves be capable of taking part in an assassination are often capable of helping to create a moral climate where somebody else feels entitled to commit it.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#20. To: aristeides (#14)
Like Ron Paul, I think he judged that that would be political suicide.
#21. To: Cynicom (#18)
Then Lincoln got what he deserved?
#22. To: Artisan (#7)
#23. To: aristeides (#21)
I didn't say that. Lincoln was not one of the people who led some Confederate- sympathizing extremists to think that killing him would be justified.
#24. To: Cynicom (#18)
Hardly...JFK was the most "idolized, worshiped, beloved" president of my time and from out of nowhere two assassins struck.
#25. To: lodwick (#24)
it was the perfect place for an assassination to take place, and immediately finger, and then murder their perfect patsy.
#26. To: Cynicom (#25)
People that speak of doing such rarely ever do. Usually political assassinations are well planned, orchestrated, and cleaned up.
#27. To: Tauzero (#9)
(Edited)
at least he's looking after his own.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
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