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Title: A 'New World Order' for Conservatives? (McCain - North American Union)
Source: The Loft - GOPUSA
URL Source: http://www.gopusa.com/theloft/?p=678
Published: Mar 27, 2008
Author: Bobby Eberle
Post Date: 2008-03-27 16:42:00 by FOH
Keywords: Please, Wake, Up
Views: 255
Comments: 19

Last week, I focused on Sen. Obama's speech about his "former" pastor. I thought the speech was both fascinating and scary in how it revealed so much of what the senator actually believes. Who would have thought that in such a short time, there would be another speech that seems equally revealing and that has conservatives grumbling. Though not given all the advance billing of a "major address" like Sen. Obama's speech, the comments delivered by Sen. John McCain on Wednesday have conservatives such as myself up in arms. To Sen. McCain.... when you give a speech like that -- a speech John Kerry could have given -- are you purposely thumbing your nose at conservatives?

In a speech before the World Affairs Council in Los Angeles, California, Sen. McCain delivered a laundry list of all things non-conservative. Speaking of new world orders, North American Unions, and global permission to protect American interests is so far from our basic Republican platform that I don't even need to use the word conservative, it's not even Republican. Let's take a look at what the senator from Arizona -- the REPUBLICAN NOMINEE -- had to say.

On Rush Limbaugh's program, the conservative talk show host correctly honed in on one of the items that particularly went up my spine. Rush takes issues with the following McCain statement:

MCCAIN: Our great power does not mean we can do whatever we want, whenever we want, nor should we assume we have all the wisdom and knowledge necessary to succeed. We need to listen, we need to listen to the views and respect the collective will of our Democratic allies. When we believe international action is necessary, whether military, economic, or diplomatic, we will try to persuade our friends that we are right. But we in return must be willing to be persuaded by them.

What McCain is saying is that American interests are now up for veto by the collective "world body" and we must always get permission before action is taken. Clearly we don't want our "democratic allies" to be mad at us. This is just another step in diminishing America's role as leader of the free world. As Rush states, "Liberals are going to love this speech. This is the problem. This is their stated approach. This is no different than what John Kerry was talking about doing, although his remarks were in the context of military involvement, but McCain included that here."

Rush addressed a few other areas of McCain's speech, but one part that particularly bothered me was this passage:

Relations with our southern neighbors must be governed by mutual respect, not by an imperial impulse or by anti-American demagoguery. The promise of North, Central, and South American life is too great for that. I believe the Americas can and must be the model for a new 21st century relationship between North and South. Ours can be the first completely democratic hemisphere, where trade is free across all borders, where the rule of law and the power of free markets advance the security and prosperity of all.

Again, this sounds like something straight from the liberal manifesto. I'm sorry, I'm just not buying it. When Lee Greenwood belts out those stirring words that make our hearts beat a little stronger, he doesn't sing, "I'm proud to be a North American." When I get up in the morning, I don't pray to God and thank him for the fact that our neighbors are Canada and Mexico. I don't long for the day when people will say, "Hey you are one of those Western Hemisphere folks, aren't you? Cool...." I'm proud to be an American! A citizen of the United States of America. I do not want alliances that take away American sovereignty or diminish our capacity to do what is in the best interest of America. Any presidential candidate who talks otherwise is sending up a huge red flag to conservatives across the country.

McCain goes on to call for the closing of the Guantanamo Bay detention facility. That is simply crazy. Would we no longer house enemy combatants? Of course we would. We'd simply have another Gitmo under a different name. So, there is no reason to close what we already have. Suggesting so is simply catering to liberals both at home and abroad that America is somehow the bad guy who needs to clean up his act. Forget it!!!

The comments poured in yesterday, and it might be wise for the senator's presidential campaign to make a note that trying to fundraise among conservatives on the same day you give a "new world order" speech is not really a great idea.

I was going to send a contribution, but after today's speech I have changed my mind. I just won't vote in the next election. I feel this country is going to hell in a handbasket. I can't believe we will close Gitmo!
-- Liz O.

After the speech McCain gave today 3/26, about closing Gitmo and torture, and the global B.S. he will never get my vote, even if he RAN UNOPPOSED.
-- Bob L.

I honestly am not to the point that I can say for certain I will even vote for you, Senator McCain, let alone send a donation. I heard some of your speech today and really object to much of it.
-- Nancy M.

I am proud of America... a country that was forged in the fires of liberty, freedom, and leadership. When America faces adversity, we face that adversity head on, and we lead. We don't ask, "Excuse, kind European neighbor, are we really facing adversity, because, um, er, if not, we'll just go back across the Atlantic. Just wanted to check with you because maybe you thought that perhaps we might just sort of be right and that America should act. Of course we won't take any action that might make you upset."

America is strong, and we will continue to be so, as long as we have leaders who will promote and defend America and not sell us out to the "global village."


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If We The People don't rise up, the North American Union will be done. Even this douche bag finally gets it...or is it We The Sheeple?

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#1. To: buckeye, JamesDeffenbach, wudidiz, TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker, Original_Intent, christine, Pinguinite, lodwick, _______, farmfriend, IndieTX (#0)

And there you have it...

[TAGLINE BTTT]


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-27   16:45:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom, HayekFan, JethroTull (#1)

pingy lingy


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-27   16:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: FOH (#0)

Last week, I focused on Sen. Obama's speech about his "former" pastor. I thought the speech was both fascinating and scary in how it revealed so much of what the senator actually believes.

I'll repost what I said yesterday in this thread freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...? ArtNum=76737&Disp=10#C10

Let's address the specific points Wright made, and tell me which ones you disagree with? I'd never heard of the guy before this story broke, but look at what he says, he's ranting against zionism, the phony drug war, hypocrisy of our foreign policy, etc. He appears to make more sense than all the people on FOX news, no?? as far as the white comments, the majority if not all of the bilderbergers, masons, grovers etc in charge are mostly all old white pervert satanists. sorry, but it's true, ain't it?

I have even correlated his comments to other issues. "you think a nation that slaughters 20 million unborn babies, and bans guns, and steals peoples land, steals the fruit of their labor, refuses to answer their righteous questions, poisons and brainwashes their kids, and on and on... that God will 'BLESS' such a nation? That God will BLESS america?? 'God Bless America'? No. No. No. Not 'God Bless America,'!!!

Wright's controversial comments By POLITICO STAFF | 3/17/08 www.politico.com/news /stories/0308/9089 .html

Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. is a retiring pastor and outgoing spiritual adviser to Sen. Barack Obama. Photo: AP

“Barack knows what it means to be a black man living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich, white people. Hillary ain't never been called a n——- .”

“The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three- strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America'? No. No. No. Not 'God Bless America,' 'God damn America.' God damn America for killing innocent people.”

“They will not only attack you if you try to point out what’s happening in white America. U.S. of KKK A.”

“We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought back into our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.”

"America is still the No. 1 killer in the world. ... We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns and the training of professional killers. ... We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God. ... We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic. … We started the AIDS virus. ... We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty.”

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-03-27   16:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: FOH (#0)

the good republicans are saying they'll refuse mccain because he says he'll close gitmo? that's pretty funny. They tagged him as a traitor, which he is, but for the wrong reasons. Hey, whatever works I guess.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-03-27   17:00:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Artisan (#3)

Seriously, I do not get you Obamaphiles other than you're liars, frauds and / or sorely deceived if you think McHillObama ain't on the same page...


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-27   17:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: FOH (#5)

you Obamaphiles

WTF??

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-03-27   17:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Artisan (#6)

You're pitching on Obama's team, correct...?


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-27   17:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: FOH, Artisan, the thread (#7)

I just read a NewsMax blurb that said Condi was 'open' to a McChurian veep slot.

Dear God.

Lod  posted on  2008-03-27   18:09:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: lodwick (#8)

LINK!?!?

It's a OWM orgy!!!

lolol

sheesh


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-27   18:15:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: FOH (#9)

No link - it was in my InBox.

I hadn't the stomach to open and read the body of the letter.

Lod  posted on  2008-03-27   18:24:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: FOH (#7)

No, not at all,, Im a Ron Paul supporter, I was just remarking about Obama's pastor's comments which as someone pointed out the other day sound like the stuff alex jones discusses. CIA drug running, prison planet, compromised hacks, wretched foreign policy, etc. what, other than the WHITEY part, did you disagree with?

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-03-27   18:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Artisan (#11)

Oh, I do agree with some 'themes'...not sure where AIDS really came from, for instance.

My apologies...


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-27   19:11:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: FOH (#0)

he will never get my vote, even if he RAN UNOPPOSED.

That's how I feel about it. One of these days I'm going to get my information about Real ID posted. This thing goes beyond a national ID card. First it puts our IDs under an umbrella with Canada and Mexico then it creates an international face recognition data base that would be shared. Everyone entering the US would have their face checked against the data base.


Vote Republicrat or Democin, it doesn't matter, you still get McHillobama

farmfriend  posted on  2008-03-27   20:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: farmfriend (#13)

Hear hear!


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-27   20:25:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: FOH (#14)

The deeper you get into that the scarier it gets. On a brighter note, looks like CA authorization of Real ID is dead. SB 60 has been sitting at the third reading (final vote stage) in the Assembly now for months. Tells me they don't have the votes. Now a resolution has been introduced to ask the California delegation to repeal Real ID at the federal level.


Vote Republicrat or Democin, it doesn't matter, you still get McHillobama

farmfriend  posted on  2008-03-27   20:42:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: farmfriend (#15)

Now a resolution has been introduced to ask the California delegation to repeal Real ID at the federal level.

The US chamber of Quislings / Aztlan Lobby?


What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-03-27   21:00:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: farmfriend (#15)

Now a resolution has been introduced to ask the California delegation to repeal Real ID at the federal level.

A bit of good news from the CA - thanks.

Lod  posted on  2008-03-27   21:35:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lodwick (#17)

A bit of good news from the CA - thanks.

Gotta take that good news when we can there is so little of it.


Vote Republicrat or Democin, it doesn't matter, you still get McHillobama

farmfriend  posted on  2008-03-27   22:02:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: FOH (#0)

New world order for McCain

This man cannot be believed. He is another Bush Clone. Did you forget already that this guy called for a 100 year old war in the Middle East? I will never forget that. This is the man that the election riggers are gearing up to slide into Bush's seat. McCain will care the Christo Fascist banner into the next century! He really scares me more than Bush. He would launch a nuclear attack in a heart beat. Talk about someone who wants to destroy us and McCain is the man. No more please.

DrStrange  posted on  2008-03-29   8:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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