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Title: US death toll in Iraq is ‘mostly white and poor’
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The Herald (UK)
URL Source: http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/new ... q_is_mostly_white_and_poor.php
Published: Mar 27, 2008
Author: Ian Bruce
Post Date: 2008-03-29 21:21:17 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 1241
Comments: 85
The 4000 US soldiers killed in Iraq in the past five years were predominantly white and more than one in three came from poor southern states, according to a casualty analysis carried out by The Herald. Almost one in 10 of the dead were officers, with a heavy toll of captains and lieutenants leading their men from the front. Overall, 97% of them died after the official end of hostilities in May 2003. The fatalities included one Briton from Bedford and a Canadian, both of whom had joined the US Army to see action. There were also 40 native American tribesmen and 44 Pacific islanders. The 36% of southern boys came from small towns such as Bauxite, Arkansas. There were also losses from Glasgow, Kentucky, and Midlothian, Virginia. Texas was hardest hit of the old Confederate states,, losing 371 dead and 2840 wounded, but California suffered 429 deaths, the highest number of fatalities from any home state. By ethnic group, the dead were 75% white, 11% Latino and 9% black. Between 40% and 55% were killed by roadside bombs, although rocket-propelled grenades and gunfire accounted for many of the 137 who fell during the assault on the insurgent-held city of Falluja in November, 2004. US special forces also took heavy losses. Although the Pentagon does not comment on clandestine operations, two naval commanders, five lieutenant-commanders and 52 petty officers - most believed to be members of the US Navy Seals - have been killed. Four colonels and 14 lieutenant-colonels from the army and Marine Corps were the most senior officers to die, joined by 36 majors and several hundred platoon and company commanders. The vast majority of losses were in the 20 to 30 age group, with just 83 of the total aged over 45 and only 33 aged 18. Despite the prohibition on women in combat, there were 98 female deaths, mainly in support units. The mortality rate for women soldiers is 2% of those given Iraq duty. A US officer with Iraq experience said yesterday: "You'll find that the backbone of the US Army has long been poor, white and southern. Small-town rural Dixie has always been a prime recruiting area because there's a shortage of jobs and southerners have a proud military tradition. Sadly, that translates into casualties."
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#30. To: buckeye (#28)
The prime reason was that the Elder Lindbergh in Congress in 1913 had fought against the "Federal Reserve". The Jewish cabal destroyed Lindberghs political career, the main culprit being the New York Times. When his son came along he received the same treatment. The cabal never forgets. Charles Lindbergh Sr. was the first American to warn against the Federal Reserve and paid the price as did his son.
It's up to us. We're not doing so well, if Ron Paul's and Dennis Kucinich's support at the polls would indicate.
Jethro... FDR was prime military material, that is why he was hiding out in the Navy Dept. because he was "exempt" from military service. When the war was over he left, a fine American warrior.
What's with your bazarro reading comprehension? My obsession, demonstrated on these threads time and time again, is the complete and utter deterioration of the Republican Party. What's left of this miserable bunch of big gubmint, neocon betrayers does not represent me ... if you think it does you then hang right in there and you'll get a third helping. The scoreboard showing that the best choice left is a black man is simply a coincidence of history. The fact that his color is a deal breaker for so many is unfortunate for the nation in my estimation, but que sera sera.
The road to perdition .... Bush/Clinton/Bush/McClinton
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_August_Lindbergh Thanks for the historical perspective on the Lindbergh family, Cyni.
You're tilting at windmills. The power we are up against is manifested in both parties.
buck, old friend, I know full well you are anything but happy with the current political picture, but what on earth is it going to take to shake you back into the present?
The road to perdition .... Bush/Clinton/Bush/McClinton
And the fact that Obama is the first front runner in either party in decades to show an inclination to back away from this craziness is encouraging to me. The fact that so many here can't smell the coffee even as its poured over their heads boggles my mind.
The road to perdition .... Bush/Clinton/Bush/McClinton
I don't follow you.
The ballot box is not a windmill. Conservatives in this republic have a golden opportunity to send a message to the the Traitorous Plutocrat Party, perhaps even a stake in their black hearts. The only thing Quixotic about my dreams is my fading hope for a fifty state reversal for this scum. I for one am mad as hell, and not going to take it anymore.
The road to perdition .... Bush/Clinton/Bush/McClinton
The fact that you believe a politician will act in the best interest of the American people, given your age, tells me you've absorbed nothing but spin for more than seven decades. You're a walking tribute to the System. Without folks like you it would be exposed for the fraud it is and Lord knows how awful that would be.
Had a chance, is the correct phrase. What makes you think all the dumbasses that voted for McQueeg in the primaries will suddenly see the light and vote against him in the general? It doesn't matter anyway, the Dems could run Ted Kennedy at this point and still get 60% of the vote, assuming the elections aren't rigged, a longshot at best.
“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
How's not voting, casting worthless third party votes, or sittin' on your ass workin' for yuh?
The road to perdition .... Bush/Clinton/Bush/McClinton
You will.
Research indicates Obama could win with just a little more groveling to the zionists.
“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
Much better after I learned the System can be adjusted to select any candidate it chooses. BTW, who have you voted for in your lifetime that has brought America closer to it's Constitutional footing?
LOL, and he'll happily attack those who don't take it.
“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
The polls show another neck and neck finish at the moment. Course y'all don't believe you're lying eyes in respect to to polls either, so just rant on. Stop blaming the system and those behind the curtain do what you can. Sorry, gotta go.
The road to perdition .... Bush/Clinton/Bush/McClinton
Hey now, don't be dissin' Obama, he understands fully that the Second Amendment applies only to those who wish to hunt game on their private estates.
“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
I stood in freezing rain for several hours on many, many days holding signs for Ron Paul, passed out literature, donated at least $1000, and basically did everything possible short of actually joining the GOP, so spare me the lecture.
“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
That discussion of the 2nd, and Obama's take on it, caused more problems with both the right and left. Lots of bruised feelings for merely identifying his draconian position. The thread was a great example of why we're fractured beyond hope, and if the government doesn't legislate us into obscurity, our fellow brethren will.
Whether Obama, Clinton or McCain "wins", it matters not--there shall be yet merely the next in a long line of Israel ass-kissing American Presidents.
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
Amen brother, Amen. People that harp on "party" are deluding themselves. Really galling is when they come here supporting anyone that is part and parcel of the "system".
Anyone who thinks that Obama is not part of the "system" is delusional. If a presidential candidate isn't a "system lackey", the Ron Paul treatment shall be applied to him/her. Obama simply wouldn't be in a contest with Clinton if he wasn't part and parcel thereof. Obama is there to make the sheeple think they have a choice. And, it is working well.
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
Great discussion, thoughts, and history - thanks.
No wonder nobody really cares about Iraq. Since no rich white kids are dying, Republicans don't care. Since there are more poor whites than "minorities" being killed, Democrats don't give a damn either.
Fox News was all over the Jessica Lynch story for several months. Oh wait, that all turned out to be a giant lie, didn't it? She'll never work in Hollywood again!
“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
How about 20? Is that too optimistic? it is too optimistic...if we're to believe the polls indicating that americans are voting for more and more war. i, for one, don't believe it. i don't think american citizens have a choice. the war party is the U.S. government..repubs and dems alike. afterall, war is the health of the state. it will be the death of the state at some point.
she can't follow a script!!
1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
I applaud you ... sincerely and enthusiastically. But why quit after the first quarter and yield to the odious establishment?
The road to perdition .... Bush/Clinton/Bush/McClinton
Anyone who thinks that the Clinton controlled Democrat side of the system thought giving their "house nigger" a spot at the 2004 convention would lead to to his stopping her ascension to the throne in 2008 is beyond delusional. For crysakes get behind the only non-establishment candidate before you're f'ed again!
The road to perdition .... Bush/Clinton/Bush/McClinton
Great idea for a t-shirt design: "I Survived the Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush era.... and all I have left is This Lousy T-Shirt!"
Yet the Israel-firsters running our presses and our broadcast media establishment insist that Lindbergh was a collaborator of the worst kind.
#31. To: wbales, burkeman1 (#29)
#32. To: Jethro Tull (#22)
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#23)
What is your bazarro obsession with race in America?
#34. To: Cynicom (#30)
#35. To: iconoclast (#33)
My obsession, demonstrated on these threads time and time again, is the complete and utter deterioration of the Republican Party.
#36. To: buckeye (#28)
Aside from the racialist accusations made against Lindbergh
#37. To: wbales (#24)
The core and bottom-line conflicting issue, in my observation, is this: either you are an Israel First American or you are not. I tend to lean towards the latter.
#38. To: iconoclast (#36)
#39. To: buckeye (#35)
(Edited)
You're tilting at windmills.
#40. To: iconoclast (#37)
And the fact that Obama is the first front runner in either party in decades to show an inclination to back away from this craziness is encouraging to me.
#41. To: iconoclast (#39)
Conservatives in this republic have a golden opportunity to send a message to the the Traitorous Plutocrat Party, perhaps even a stake in their black hearts.
#42. To: Jethro Tull (#40)
You're a walking tribute to the System.
#43. To: iconoclast (#39)
I for one am mad as hell, and not going to take it anymore.
#44. To: Jethro Tull (#40)
#45. To: iconoclast (#42)
How's not voting, casting worthless third party votes, or sittin' on your ass workin' for yuh?
#46. To: buckeye, iconoclast (#43)
#47. To: Dakmar (#41)
It doesn't matter anyway, the Dems could run Ted Kennedy at this point and still get 60% of the vote, assuming the elections aren't rigged, a longshot at best.
#48. To: Jethro Tull (#45)
#49. To: iconoclast (#47)
Stop blaming the system and those behind the curtain do what you can.
#50. To: Dakmar (#48)
Hey now, don't be dissin' Obama, he understands fully that the Second Amendment applies only to those who wish to hunt game on their private estates.
#51. To: Dakmar (#44)
Research indicates Obama could win with just a little more groveling to the zionists.
#52. To: wbales (#51)
Whether Obama, Clinton or McCain "wins", it matters not--there shall be yet merely the next in a long line of Israel ass-kissing American Presidents.
#53. To: Cynicom (#52)
Really galling is when they come here supporting anyone that is part and parcel of the "system".
#54. To: The Thread (#53)
#55. To: X-15 (#0)
By ethnic group, the dead were 75% white, 11% Latino and 9% black. Between 40% and 55% were killed by roadside bombs, although rocket-propelled grenades and gunfire accounted for many of the 137 who fell during the assault on the insurgent-held city of Falluja in November, 2004.
#56. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#55)
Since no rich white kids are dying, Republicans don't care.
#57. To: wbales (#29)
I wonder if America could go 100 years without bombing, invading or shooting up some other country. 50?
#58. To: Dakmar (#56)
She'll never work in Hollywood again!
#59. To: Dakmar (#49)
I stood in freezing rain for several hours on many, many days holding signs for Ron Paul, passed out literature, donated at least $1000, and basically did everything possible short of actually joining the GOP, so spare me the lecture.
#60. To: wbales (#53)
Anyone who thinks that Obama is not part of the "system" is delusional.
#61. To: iconoclast (#59)
The road to perdition .... Bush/Clinton/Bush/McClinton
 | Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise. |
#62. To: iconoclast (#59)
The only logical next step was joining the GOP to as required to become a delegate, precinct captain, or to use my own description, toady. Seemed a move in the wrong direction. McCain has the nomination sewn up, not a damned thing I do will change that.
But why quit after the first quarter and yield to the odious establishment?
“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
#63. To: wbales (#29)
How about 20? Is that too optimistic? The odds are that the Zionist in Washington and Tel Aviv will accelerate the genocidal war against Israel's enemies in the Muslim neighborhood. The warmonger McCain's elevation as the War Party's nominee to run for the White House come November is a declaration of world war in the name of Jewish supremacy. If Bush don't nuke Iran, McCain will. For those Americans who rebel the gulags are already in place.
I wonder if America could go 100 years without bombing, invading or shooting up some other country. 50?
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
#64. To: Dakmar (#62)
When did the Republican Party become a religion?
McCain has the nomination sewn up, not a damned thing I do will change that.
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
#65. To: iconoclast (#64)
I have no idea what you are getting at. What is so difficult to understand about the fact that McCain has the required number of delegates to secure the nomination?
When did the Republican Party become a religion?
“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life." - Jack Kerouac
#66. To: iconoclast (#60)
Who is that?
get behind the only non-establishment candidate
"Look well therefore to this Day!" ~ Kalidasa
#67. To: X-15 (#0)
Looks like they're attempting to widen their pool of inductees.
"You'll find that the backbone of the US Army has long been poor, white and southern. Small-town rural Dixie has always been a prime recruiting area because there's a shortage of jobs
"Look well therefore to this Day!" ~ Kalidasa
#68. To: Dakmar (#65) (Edited)
I have no idea what you are getting at. It ain't rocket science. How in God's name, viewing the colossal mess the country's in, can polls show a close race upcoming .... 46-43, 45-44 .... McCain ahead! Who are these 46,47 percent that are salivating for four more years of American decline? I can't believe it, unless there's a missing decimal point. In a rational nation the Plutocrats would be getting something closer to 4.6% support. Does almost half the country belong to some bizzaro cult? I can come up with no other answer.
When did the Republican Party become a religion?
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
#69. To: angle (#66)
Who is that? Clearly the McClintons are the establishment candidates. Do you honestly believe that the Clinton controlled Dim party put Obama behind that podium in '04 with the slightest thought that this man would turn into an uppity nigger that would/could stall Queen Hillary's ascension to the throne?
get behind the only non-establishment candidate
I cling to hope of a 50 state repudiation of the traitorous, neocon Plutocrat Party
#70. To: iconoclast (#69)
Please explain why Obama isn't?
Clearly the McClintons are the establishment candidates.
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